Which is better to upgrade to AMD Graphics Cards or 4000’s?

[Vardan]

Sadly I have to upgrade my 3070 ti graphics card. Sadly my card is bent after being used heavily and not having a support bracket.

Lately I’m afraid of upgrading to the 4000’s due to issues of the card melting 12VHPWR cable connectors leading to fires and the card burning out. I’m thinking of using the amd 7900xt graphics card.

Any thoughts?

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

If you want actual value then you buy AMD. If you want less vram, less value, less cores, less bus interface, less rasterization, less hardware in general and proprietary gimmicks that add nothing but buyer's remorse and promote upscaling like it's some kind of awesome feature when in reality it's actually supposed to be loathed by the gaming community then you go with Nvidia trash offerings.

Games coming out that require Ray tracing are simply either going to get laughed at, modded, or boycotted. The fact that game developers are talentless now isn't helping anything either.

[smokerob79]

Początkowo opublikowane przez bidulless:

hello
imo choose the lowest tdp ....
rest is imo not that important because you won't see any difference after 30/60 fps unless you're build with alien genes

dude we can see it even if you cant.......


as for AMD VS NgreedyA......its not worth supporting team green anymore.....they are only after the profit margins and that means you lose with every card bought from them....my 3080 will be mast last NgreedyA regardless of what the market does.....just like NZXT ASUS and MSI, NgreedyA is DEAD TO ME

[Blaagh]

arguing fsr vs dlss is so lol

for years we've been working up the resolution ladder.. using multisample or supersample to up the resolution even beyond physical.. now you try to tell me using LOWER res is better ?? seriously its both marketing crap

[smokerob79]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Blaagh:

arguing fsr vs dlss is so lol

for years we've been working up the resolution ladder.. using multisample or supersample to up the resolution even beyond physical.. now you try to tell me using LOWER res is better ?? seriously its both marketing crap

I love it when old timers click in......for years it was SUPER SAMPLING play games at 1080p on your 1600x900 monitor.......now its play 720p at 4k....... ......dont let the youngens forget it!!!

[Trout]

nvidia has only DLSS (lol) and bettter raytracing (lmao) going for it, AMD is just better overall, especially in price

Początkowo opublikowane przez Electric Cupcake:

AMD is linux friendly, uses open standards, and FSR is far superior to DLSS.

i don't think OP cares about your first two points. FSR does frame generation slop better than DLSS but it's simply worse at upscaling

[Bing Chilling]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Trout:

nvidia has only DLSS (lol) and bettter raytracing (lmao) going for it, AMD is just better overall, especially in price

Początkowo opublikowane przez Electric Cupcake:

AMD is linux friendly, uses open standards, and FSR is far superior to DLSS.

i don't think OP cares about your first two points. FSR does frame generation slop better than DLSS but it's simply worse at upscaling

i mean their NVENC encoder is also worth pointing out, same with the "nvidia inspector" program

[Vardan]

Well I’ve decided to go with Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB.

With a cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor

The motherboards I’ve being looking at:

1. Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME EATX AM5 Motherboard

2. Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) EATX AM5 Motherboard

3. MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

What motherboard would you recommend?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Vardan:

Well I’ve decided to go with Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB.

With a cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor

The motherboards I’ve being looking at:

1. Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME EATX AM5 Motherboard

2. Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) EATX AM5 Motherboard

3. MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

What motherboard would you recommend?

Would go with X870 mobo, that way you will have latest chipset that will be upgrade worthy and relevant longest.

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Vardan:

Well I’ve decided to go with Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB.

With a cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor

The motherboards I’ve being looking at:

1. Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME EATX AM5 Motherboard

2. Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) EATX AM5 Motherboard

3. MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

What motherboard would you recommend?

"Welcome to the Red son" Baker Re7

[Vardan]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Rumpelcrutchskin:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Vardan:

Well I’ve decided to go with Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB.

With a cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor

The motherboards I’ve being looking at:

1. Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME EATX AM5 Motherboard

2. Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) EATX AM5 Motherboard

3. MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

What motherboard would you recommend?

Would go with X870 mobo, that way you will have latest chipset that will be upgrade worthy and relevant longest.

Any particular one of the X870 Mobo?

[Vardan]

So I take it you’d recommend the MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI ?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Vardan:

So I take it you’d recommend the MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI ?

Yes, it has been on top of the X870 tier lists that I have seen so good choice.

[C1REX]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Rumpelcrutchskin:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Vardan:

Well I’ve decided to go with Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB.

With a cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor

The motherboards I’ve being looking at:

1. Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME EATX AM5 Motherboard

2. Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) EATX AM5 Motherboard

3. MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

What motherboard would you recommend?

Would go with X870 mobo, that way you will have latest chipset that will be upgrade worthy and relevant longest.

It’s literally the same chipset as B650 and x670. The same drivers.
In some ways it can even be a downgrade as all x670 and x670e have double chipset when only x870e is a double chipset option. x870 non e has a single chipset.

https://youtu.be/H0axuzyN_1s?si=cVWAd3qHeWJGKfYF

There is no difference in gaming performance as well as long as there is no VRM limitation what is not a problem for 8 core CPUs.

[The_Abortionator]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bing Chilling:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Electric Cupcake:

AMD is linux friendly, uses open standards, and FSR is far superior to DLSS. The choice is obvious.

And much more energy efficient.

idk about linux

but you are just wrong when you say FSR is better then DLSS and that AMD is more energy efficient..

also to OP if you don't care about the features nvidia offers or the absolute best performance (IE the 4090) then i'd go with the AMD card, it's better value.

FSR and DLSS is pretty much par at this point and the mods that swap one for the other have pretty much proven dev tuning is what makes or breaks one or the other.

As for energy efficiency everyone like to pretend VRAM doesn't take power. In most tiers they are as efficient as each other.

But yeah, Linux support is night and day.

Nvidia dragged their feet on wayland support for almost 10 years and they also 6 years behind on proper Vulcan support.

Want to use Proton? For AMD the HD 7000 from 2012 cards and up support everythig you need. Nvidia? That'll require the 20 series and up otherwise you lose 40%+ performance.

[The_Abortionator]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bing Chilling:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Trout:

nvidia has only DLSS (lol) and bettter raytracing (lmao) going for it, AMD is just better overall, especially in price

i don't think OP cares about your first two points. FSR does frame generation slop better than DLSS but it's simply worse at upscaling

i mean their NVENC encoder is also worth pointing out, same with the "nvidia inspector" program

Pointing out what? Nobody should be recording in x264 anymore and the other encoders are par now with sub 2% deltas. The biggest Delta is between Intel and the rest, you gonna start gaming on ARC just because is has better quality that you don't even notice?