[UK] HeadShotKing 2023 年 9 月 15 日 上午 1:17
Best cpu
What is the best intel cpu for gaming? Is it i9 13900k? Or is it too much hassle trying to keep it cool?
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Illusion of Progress 2023 年 9 月 16 日 下午 1:36 
why are you misleading people with that biased site?
Uh.... the website hawkeye gave is not at all biased. It might even be one of the most objective ones there is (due to it being synthetic, which has drawbacks at times yes).

I think they're missing context when trying to use their single-threaded rating when involving the X3D CPUs (this works just fine when not involving them, though) for the reasons I gave above, but otherwise they're using a non-biased source and not giving bad information here. It's not like they linked to Userfraudmark or something.
最後修改者:Illusion of Progress; 2023 年 9 月 16 日 下午 1:37
Guydodge 2023 年 9 月 16 日 下午 11:50 
引用自 Rod
13900k furnace, Roll up roll up get your useless E cores here that you wont use but ill wager alongside HT hinder CS like it does Starfield.


13700k on Intel side 7800X3D on AMD side. For CS2 Intel seems to win maybe it will change after beta? I wonder why they dont use the cache more personally i went for 7800x3d.


Thats going to be my rig plus 500hz monitor.
nonsense the 13900k runs all games and does not run as hot as you think.
mine rarely goes above 70f while gaming with a 4090 running 1440 so its using it
more than running at 4k.and E cores enable me to run anything along side while gaming
and more and more games are taking advantage of the E cores.stop listening to fools.
its clear you dont understand the power and capabilities it gives you.
最後修改者:Guydodge; 2023 年 9 月 16 日 下午 11:56
Monk 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 4:17 
Those sites you list don't run anything even remotely tuned or overclocked properly, checkout frame chasers to see what both platforms are really capable of when pushed to the limit.

The 5800X3D is a great buy if your on AM4, the 7800X3D, not so much.
Likewise fir Intel, the 13900k/s while being the fastest, is not the best buy, that goes to the 12700k or 13600k for most people and the absolute fastest makes very little difference in gaming.

But, that you use sources who pretty much run hardware stock, perhaps you should now out of conversations on maximum performance?
Monk 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 5:41 
On the flip side AMD's much slower ram support and lower 1% fps numbers.

Look, you clearly have never looked into the tuned numbers on both platforms, so, perhaps walk away until you know what you are in about and aren't just fanboying for the processor you chose to buy.

Once more though, I will reiterate that for the vast majority, either option is fine, however, the more consistent fps on Intel tends to be a better experience overall, atleast id prefer less stutters from fps drops over an inconsequential gain in max fps in a couple of games, if you leave the platforms at stock.
Rod 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 6:28 
引用自 Guydodge
引用自 Rod
13900k furnace, Roll up roll up get your useless E cores here that you wont use but ill wager alongside HT hinder CS like it does Starfield.


13700k on Intel side 7800X3D on AMD side. For CS2 Intel seems to win maybe it will change after beta? I wonder why they dont use the cache more personally i went for 7800x3d.


Thats going to be my rig plus 500hz monitor.
nonsense the 13900k runs all games and does not run as hot as you think.
mine rarely goes above 70f while gaming with a 4090 running 1440 so its using it
more than running at 4k.and E cores enable me to run anything along side while gaming
and more and more games are taking advantage of the E cores.stop listening to fools.
its clear you dont understand the power and capabilities it gives you.

Oh i understand the power alright, Its through the ROOF. In the UK and EU 13900k costs a lot to run. The 7800x3d costs less uses less power less heat and can win in some scenarios.

Lol
[UK] HeadShotKing 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 6:51 
引用自 Rod
引用自 Guydodge
nonsense the 13900k runs all games and does not run as hot as you think.
mine rarely goes above 70f while gaming with a 4090 running 1440 so its using it
more than running at 4k.and E cores enable me to run anything along side while gaming
and more and more games are taking advantage of the E cores.stop listening to fools.
its clear you dont understand the power and capabilities it gives you.

Oh i understand the power alright, Its through the ROOF. In the UK and EU 13900k costs a lot to run. The 7800x3d costs less uses less power less heat and can win in some scenarios.

Lol

So 78003d is future proofed for 10+ years ? Good to know,thanks for that.
Monk 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 8:51 
引用自 Monk
On the flip side AMD's much slower ram support and lower 1% fps numbers.

Look, you clearly have never looked into the tuned numbers on both platforms, so, perhaps walk away until you know what you are in about and aren't just fanboying for the processor you chose to buy.

Once more though, I will reiterate that for the vast majority, either option is fine, however, the more consistent fps on Intel tends to be a better experience overall, atleast id prefer less stutters from fps drops over an inconsequential gain in max fps in a couple of games, if you leave the platforms at stock.
if you have constant stuttering then it is something with your PC
stop touching the settings and attempting to "tweak" anything

its a very common issue with AMD cpu's.

also, you are wrong about it being faster, seriously, stop the fan-boying and giving out miss-information and go look into how the chips perform when set up properly.

the 13900k isnt that hard to cool, i ran it in my htpc with a thin noctua nh12-s cooling it for a couple weeks lol
PopinFRESH 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 9:54 
Great two opposite answers 😬

Don't worry OP, you're cheats will still work with either one to keep you getting those boom headshots ;)
GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™ 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 9:55 
引用自 Monk

its a very common issue with AMD cpu's.

also, you are wrong about it being faster, seriously, stop the fan-boying and giving out miss-information and go look into how the chips perform when set up properly.

the 13900k isnt that hard to cool, i ran it in my htpc with a thin noctua nh12-s cooling it for a couple weeks lol
feel free to cope about your more expensive CPU losing to a less expensive one :P

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/24.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-vs-intel-core-i9-13900k-vs-intel-core-7-13700K
https://www.techspot.com/review/2716-ryzen-7800x3d-vs-core-i9-13900k/
https://youtu.be/ZFLOPNpVXws
https://youtu.be/7gEVy3aW-_s
https://youtu.be/nj4gn7od0jY (honestly F this guy but anyway)
https://youtu.be/H9guEsBly0I
https://youtu.be/78lp1TGFvKc
here is everything to prove your sorry self crying behind the monitor because someone dethroned you
the 7800X3D is on average 5 to 6 FPS faster in gaming than your sorry 13900k which can go up to 6ghz, not to mention some 7800x3d's like mine can go past the 5ghz lock and make you cry even harder
Why are you bragging about a CPU that melts on idle when xpo is enabled? Go take your try-hard am5 fanboyism somewhere else. Over here am4 is the only amd platform that makes sense. Am5 is complete try-hard trash.

Trash value, trash stability, trash early adopter nonsense, trash uefi, trash bulging with poor thermal management, trash xmp support. I could make a huge list about that fail of a platform but I'm going to go play starfield on my fx-9590 and give your am5 a huge :steamthumbsdown:

Later 💪
Rod 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 10:27 
引用自 Rod

Oh i understand the power alright, Its through the ROOF. In the UK and EU 13900k costs a lot to run. The 7800x3d costs less uses less power less heat and can win in some scenarios.

Lol

So 78003d is future proofed for 10+ years ? Good to know,thanks for that.

Look up the sheer running cost of the 13900k in the UK its bonkers its over TWICE the 7800x3d if im not mistaken. Its only a few fps faster in the cs engine. But your paying a lot in the electric bill and the difference in cost. Id wager the saving of £400 long term over 10yrs.


The smart build is a 7800x3d and put the 400 saving into a 4090. Thats my plan for my 500hz cs2 pc ive bought the 7800x3d already i could of got any cpu but i specifically chose it for my needs as a uk gamer.
最後修改者:Rod; 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 10:29
Rod 2023 年 9 月 17 日 上午 10:31 
引用自 W O K E I S M
feel free to cope about your more expensive CPU losing to a less expensive one :P

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/24.html
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-vs-intel-core-i9-13900k-vs-intel-core-7-13700K
https://www.techspot.com/review/2716-ryzen-7800x3d-vs-core-i9-13900k/
https://youtu.be/ZFLOPNpVXws
https://youtu.be/7gEVy3aW-_s
https://youtu.be/nj4gn7od0jY (honestly F this guy but anyway)
https://youtu.be/H9guEsBly0I
https://youtu.be/78lp1TGFvKc
here is everything to prove your sorry self crying behind the monitor because someone dethroned you
the 7800X3D is on average 5 to 6 FPS faster in gaming than your sorry 13900k which can go up to 6ghz, not to mention some 7800x3d's like mine can go past the 5ghz lock and make you cry even harder
Why are you bragging about a CPU that melts on idle when xpo is enabled? Go take your try-hard am5 fanboyism somewhere else. Over here am4 is the only amd platform that makes sense. Am5 is complete try-hard trash.

Trash value, trash stability, trash early adopter nonsense, trash uefi, trash bulging with poor thermal management, trash xmp support. I could make a huge list about that fail of a platform but I'm going to go play starfield on my fx-9590 and give your am5 a huge :steamthumbsdown:

Later 💪

That issue was solved and a final bios issued in june i think. Being a fanboy isnt smart and while amd did have problems uve stated stuff thats irrelvant. Cost fps and power use is relevant intel lose nearly always in all 3.
Monk 2023 年 9 月 17 日 下午 3:23 
So your argument is people who don't tune or overclock the systems, completely ignoring my point.

By running them at stock in an non optimal state, you don't get to see how either side actually works.

Go look up frame chasers videos, he actually fully tunes both sides to the limit to get the maximum performance out of them.

Running Intel on slow ram fir example is sandbagging it just because AMD cannot handle it.

AMD is also only cheaper after no one bought 7000 series chips because they raised their prices so damn far.

Plus, the AMDip is real, in many games.
Rod 2023 年 9 月 17 日 下午 4:49 
引用自 Monk
So your argument is people who don't tune or overclock the systems, completely ignoring my point.

By running them at stock in an non optimal state, you don't get to see how either side actually works.

Go look up frame chasers videos, he actually fully tunes both sides to the limit to get the maximum performance out of them.

Running Intel on slow ram fir example is sandbagging it just because AMD cannot handle it.

AMD is also only cheaper after no one bought 7000 series chips because they raised their prices so damn far.

Plus, the AMDip is real, in many games.

AMDip?
Monk 2023 年 9 月 17 日 下午 6:06 
The term used to explain the 1% and 0.1% lows often experienced with AMD cpu's due to the native problems of using chiplets.

The x3d chips cache is very impressive and out of the box the AMD offerings are superb tbh.

But, when tuned properly, they lose out to Intel, some people do not like hearing the truth so just throw benchmarks done by those with non tuned or overclocked systems with very bad testing methodology as some kind of 'proof'.

As I've e also said though, both teams are more than good enough for 99% of people.
Illusion of Progress 2023 年 9 月 17 日 下午 8:54 
I mean, I don't see the issue with using results that are going to be applicable to most people. That's not "bad methodology" in my book. You might not like it because Intel has more overclocking headroom to tap into and thus you feel like it's intentionally limiting their potential results, but the way most outlets do it is applicable to far more people than it isn't. You're probably underestimating the amount of people who don't overclock on Intel anyway, even among those with K series CPUs and Z series motherboards.

That's not to say you can't point out tweaked stuff. But it's not applicable to the vast majority of people so using results that are applicable to most people isn't dishonest. Those who have the finances to buy the top CPU and GPU to then warrant spending up on RAM and be willing to push it as far as it can go probably have plenty of results they can reference for that stuff. So I don't see the problem.
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