AM4 CPUs 5800X3D vs 5900X?

[OnSync]

Just out of curiosity. Anyone of you that have or had AMD Ryzen 7 1700X that upgraded to a better AM4 CPU like 5800X3D or latest 9 5900X/5950X CPUs?

Was it worth it and which CPU would you personally recommend for media and gaming?

[emoticorpse]

引用自 OnSync：

引用自 Tiberius：

5950x if you can find a good deal

Difference between 5900 and 5950 is rather small to justify the price difference, hence I'm stuck between the other two.

I went from a 1700x to a 3700x to a 7900 non-x. It's hard to say if it's worth it because general usage wise I've never felt a huge speed difference after the upgrade. Same goes with gaming. I just don't really pay attention, if I'm satisfied with my performance then I just don't care what I'm maxing out and I've always been satisfied with my performance. So really performance wise I suppose after every upgrade I felt like the upgrade wasn't really worth it for me perception wise. I still needed to upgrade though because just knowing I had something 4 or so years old made me feel like I was behind and might have been missing out on a speed increase I needed. This might still be right because I don't know if I went back to my 1700x today, I'd end up noticing just how much slower it is at everything, but I won't do that. I just don't feel like comparing real world performance like that. I still have all the parts btw.

I'd go with the 5900x. I personally like more cores and I guess it's just because I do much more with my PC than I do game. I hardly ever game and when I do it's briefly or days/weeks at a time and then I go back to my normal routine of just random stuff with my pc. And I'm still on 1080p/144 hz so even having "great" performance instead of "the absolute best" is perfectly satisfying for me knowing I have those cores for when I need them.

[Tiberius]

引用自 OnSync：

引用自 Tiberius：

5950x if you can find a good deal

Difference between 5900 and 5950 is rather small to justify the price difference, hence I'm stuck between the other two.

https://youtu.be/G7kD3da4Ems?si=9A-smuKdJK_ZTVKd

The difference is around 15-20% faster. Pretty significant imo

[OnSync]

引用自 Tiberius：

引用自 OnSync：

Difference between 5900 and 5950 is rather small to justify the price difference, hence I'm stuck between the other two.

https://youtu.be/G7kD3da4Ems?si=9A-smuKdJK_ZTVKd

The difference is around 15-20% faster. Pretty significant imo

No real world use when price is 200€ more. Between these two 5900X is a sweet spot. Unless you have too much money then ye, get 5950X. 5800X3D ja 5900X are both in same price range, where 3D is superior in gaming, but it is also game dependent, in some you can see 100 FPS difference, while in other 1-5 FPS. But then when it comes to daily use and using PC as a workstation 5900X is way more superior to 3D.

I guess I kinda just answered my own question, but in case anyone else wondering the same. If you want to update AM4 for pure gaming then 3D is the best of them all, but if you wanna be safe, you game now and then but also use Photoshop and other editing tools, 5900X is best option. Unless you have money to spend then AM5 is the way to go, rather than stay on the old AM4 format. Regardles, from what I could find both CPUs will perform well in 1080-1440p fragment, as higher the res. the more GPU bound the game will be anyways. Also seeing how some things seem to be more CPU intensive now and then, having more cores is playin safe.

[Tiberius]

引用自 OnSync：

引用自 Tiberius：

https://youtu.be/G7kD3da4Ems?si=9A-smuKdJK_ZTVKd

The difference is around 15-20% faster. Pretty significant imo

No real world use when price is 200€ more. Between these two 5900X is a sweet spot. Unless you have too much money then ye, get 5950X. 5800X3D ja 5900X are both in same price range, where 3D is superior in gaming, but it is also game dependent, in some you can see 100 FPS difference, while in other 1-5 FPS. But then when it comes to daily use and using PC as a workstation 5900X is way more superior to 3D.

I guess I kinda just answered my own question, but in case anyone else wondering the same. If you want to update AM4 for pure gaming then 3D is the best of them all, but if you wanna be safe, you game now and then but also use Photoshop and other editing tools, 5900X is best option. Unless you have money to spend then AM5 is the way to go, rather than stay on the old AM4 format. Regardles, from what I could find both CPUs will perform well in 1080-1440p fragment, as higher the res. the more GPU bound the game will be anyways. Also seeing how some things seem to be more CPU intensive now and then, having more cores is playin safe.

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[OnSync]

引用自 smallcat：

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0uRPSR5cXg

I saw this video today. I would say that 5900X had better benches than 3D, in some by a big margin, while 3D was clearly better in games. Puget scores were actually pretty close to each other. Some of the FPS differences were pretty nuts ngl. Especially Spider Man was sad to see that 5900 ran under 100 FPS... altho 3D ran 111, but this can also be due to optimization of the game. Tbh game FPS are less reliable than actual PC benchmarks, since a lot of games are optimized better or worse for different setups.

[Illusion of Progress]

引用自 OnSync：

For the pricing, I can actually get 5800X3D for the same price as 5900X, hence why this is somewhat a complicated decision for me. I mostly only game on my PC, but I do sometimes use it as a workstation for music/video/photo editing.

This is the easiest answer ever and people have been complicating it for no reason ever since the 5800X3D came out.

More cores do nothing if you won't use them.

Faster cores make things faster by default.

Ergo, it's simple. If you don't need more cores than the Ryzen 7 has, then take the Ryzen 7 as it is faster per core. If you can use the extra cores of the Ryzen 9, then take it as it will be faster in any situations that use over 8 cores/16 threads, but still slower elsewhere. In other words, it'll still be slower in games as it's slower per core.

Both have the potential to be the faster one depending on your demands.

引用自 OnSync：

Also small correction. At least on my board I only need latest BIOS, I can then install any supported CPU I want, so I can put my old CPU back if I want to.

Be sure to verify this.

I'm pretty sure most boards had to drop support for the earlier Ryzen generations to add support for the latest ones due to BIOS size limits, but maybe there were exceptions.

I doubt it will matter long term since you probably won't want to go back to it, but it could matter in the interim if your board doesn't have some sort of BIOS flash back or similar capability.

[OnSync]

Well that is true indeed. I do have a problem of running Twitch and other background apps while gaming tho, but seeing that my old CPU is somewhat capable of doing it almost with no impact, I dont see why the newest and last AM4 chip couldnt do the same, considering that 3D tech is something AMD has started to put out on new CPUs. Maybe 5800X3D is a better option for me afterall.

Also going through the selling forums a lot of ppl looking for that chip rather than 5900X.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Even going from a 1700X to a 3700X was well worth it. 5800X3D would be a huge jump up.

It would be like going from a 7700K to 12th Gen i7 or i9

[Viking2121]

Depends, The way i use my system, I'd pick the 5900x over the 5800x3d, if I needed just gaming performance, 5800x3d all day, its gonna be faster, but not in everything or every game. Some games just don't care about the extra cache, usally them older ones and even games that will eat up threads like no tomorrow. It really depends on how you plan to use your system.

[Agent]

引用自 Viking2121：

Depends, The way i use my system, I'd pick the 5900x over the 5800x3d, if I needed just gaming performance, 5800x3d all day, its gonna be faster, but not in everything or every game. Some games just don't care about the extra cache, usally them older ones and even games that will eat up threads like no tomorrow. It really depends on how you plan to use your system.

This is why I'm still favouring intel for my new builds. I want both my old and new games to run as best as possible. That's also not mentioning newer games still using an old engine that uses 1 or 2 cores and likes high clocks / IPC.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

引用自 Stacked：

引用自 Viking2121：

Depends, The way i use my system, I'd pick the 5900x over the 5800x3d, if I needed just gaming performance, 5800x3d all day, its gonna be faster, but not in everything or every game. Some games just don't care about the extra cache, usally them older ones and even games that will eat up threads like no tomorrow. It really depends on how you plan to use your system.

This is why I'm still favouring intel for my new builds. I want both my old and new games to run as best as possible. That's also not mentioning newer games still using an old engine that uses 1 or 2 cores and likes high clocks / IPC.

It doesn't even matter. Older games would still run perfectly fine on a 5800X3D or 5900X
It's just that newer games COULD use the extra cache in the 5800X3D better is all. Not all newer games even do that much. In some it makes a big difference though. Probably the only things I could think of off hand that the 5900X might be better at would be something like Blender, or maybe in various video editing apps, if they can use the extra cores effectively.

Intel is junk with their P & E scheme. Them and MS with their Win11 junk.