Should I hold out for next-gen or buy now?

[Wisman]

With GPU prices finally coming to msrp, I found a MSI RX 6600 on both Amazon and Newegg for 324.99 USD which is below msrp. Should I buy one of these GPUs or should I hold out for next-gen and buy a RX 7600/RTX 4060? I am coming from a 2Gb RX 560.

[ugafan]

If you have an rx 560, I assume you're not gaming above 1080p.

The 6600 is really all you need for that resolution.

[Mr English]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Illusion of Progress:

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I just think if they cant keep up with supply and demand it is just pure greed on their part. I am looking forward to the next gen of cards releasing later this year though supposedly.

There were a lot of factors that led to demand outstripping supply. Supply was supposedly higher during this generation than prior to it, and yet it still seemed like the inverse, and a big part of that reason was the demand side became "infinite" because of the effects of Etherum's value having skyrocketed. Just because demand can't be met, it's not really a reason they shouldn't try and innovate, though.

Well we will have to agree to disagree on that then. 😜

[ʟǟֆȶʟɨʋɨռɢքօɛȶ]

I expect gpu prices as a whole to go back up soon so if you feel like you should or want to upgrade I think now is a good time. I just upgraded mine after 5 years.

[Vlad1337]

AMD Radeon Card RX 6000 Series RX 6600
Max Video Memory 8 GB

[Wisman]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ugafan:

If you have an rx 560, I assume you're not gaming above 1080p.

The 6600 is really all you need for that resolution.

The funny thing is, I game at 1440p. Surprisingly, even with 2Gb of VRAM it can still play a few somewhat demanding games such as War Thunder.

But because I play at 1440p I don't know if a RX 6600 would be adequate for say the next 5 years.

[Fake]

You'll always be waiting. People that tells you to wait 1-2yrs will repeat the same answer 1-2yrs from now.

Buy what you can afford and enjoy it till you can afford an upgrade.

[Illusion of Progress]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Illusion of Progress:

There were a lot of factors that led to demand outstripping supply. Supply was supposedly higher during this generation than prior to it, and yet it still seemed like the inverse, and a big part of that reason was the demand side became "infinite" because of the effects of Etherum's value having skyrocketed. Just because demand can't be met, it's not really a reason they shouldn't try and innovate, though.

Well we will have to agree to disagree on that then. 😜

Sure, and we're all entitled to our own opinion, but may I inquire why? Why do you think progress should intentionally be withheld simply because availability and pricing is bad?

[Mr English]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Illusion of Progress:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mr English:

Well we will have to agree to disagree on that then. 😜

Sure, and we're all entitled to our own opinion, but may I inquire why? Why do you think progress should intentionally be withheld simply because availability and pricing is bad?

Because it can obviously help the consumer. Fore instance say you want to buy a top range card. You buy that card at an inflated price. Just a few months later a better card is released at a retail price that is cheaper than the inflated price you paid for pthe previous card. Releasing new cards when gpu`s are in short supply only helps the manufacturers. It is anti-consumer. Simple really.

[Illusion of Progress]

How is intentionally stalling progress helping the consumer?

You seem to be looking at this through a narrow lens. You're not understanding the conditions that led to the GPU market as it is. You seem to be looking at it as though supply was just kept low to raise prices (this was anything but the case) and that since they don't have enough supply, they should just... not make better products indefinitely because then the people who paid the marked up prices are ripped off? If that's your argument, I do not agree with it at all, and I can't imagine many people would.

There's too many problems with that.

The first is, you're saying they should withhold progress for this to deal with an issue (lack of supply) that they neither created nor CAN solve anyway. Supply and demand work together. It's far too easy to fall for the idea that "if there's not enough supply, just make more" right? Well, what happens when the demand side of things become "infinite", which it did due to a certain cryptocurrency spiking? They literally COULD NOT meet that sort of demand. They had higher production than ever and still failed to meet it, which should make that obvious. They could have produced two, four times as much as they did and pricing would have not been much better. This was not a simple "make more to solve it" issue. This is to say nothing of the other things, like inflation, tariffs, logistical issues, shutdowns, etc. it was literally a perfect storm.

The other thing is, nobody forces people to buy things, especially luxury products like this. If you don't feel something is worth the asking price, don't buy it. It's honestly that simple. You don't get to pay a price for something and then cry foul if that same thing is priced lower later, or if something faster is available lower later. That's entitlement. I don't find these prices worth it so you know what I do? I abstain from buying. If you give in and buy, that is on you as a buyer. Be responsible for your buying choices. Don't just complain that the market has to stop moving forward to accommodate your choices. I'm not trying to sound rude but honestly that's a selfish opinion to have. More so because abstaining from advancing would have done NOTHING to help the issues you describe anyway, so... why have the issues with the market we were going to have anyway and ALSO have GPUs stop advancing indefinitely until it gets better? That makes no sense.

[Ice Robertson]

Should I hold out for next-gen or buy now?

Are you joking?

If you don't buy something soon you'll always be waiting, there's always something on the horizon.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Buy now, because if Ukraine war turned in to WW3 or Nuclear catastrophe, and humanity is wiped out from the face of the earth. Then you won't be able to buy any Graphics card.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ulia:

Best we can do is speculate based on hints and rumors, but today should be far from close to the "next gen" release dates. Of course you will usually get better price to performance by opting to wait for new releases, but you'll be paying the buyers remorse aversion tax in time.

Pretty much this, but in more plain English, you are better off waiting for new releases always when buying GPUs as it drives old tech down in price (whether you opt for the new tech or the old tech is irrelevant).

Only exception to this is if your country is experiencing hyperinflation and will continue to do so, in which case you may be better to buy at present before your currency is devalued further.

[nullable]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mr English:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Illusion of Progress:

Sure, and we're all entitled to our own opinion, but may I inquire why? Why do you think progress should intentionally be withheld simply because availability and pricing is bad?

Because it can obviously help the consumer. Fore instance say you want to buy a top range card. You buy that card at an inflated price. Just a few months later a better card is released at a retail price that is cheaper than the inflated price you paid for pthe previous card. Releasing new cards when gpu`s are in short supply only helps the manufacturers. It is anti-consumer. Simple really.

Ok so you're saying if you buy a top end card, at a price you were willing to pay, and new hardware comes out, that's cheaper. That hurts you? Or does it just hurt your feelings, your feeling that you have the most current hardware and that it's still good because nothing is better?

Alright.

What about me? The 30 series is 18 months old. So I might wait for the 40 series. But because some 30 series owners feel put out about the situation, I shouldn't have the option to buy updated hardware? How does all that help me? Also a consumer... in the market for new hardware.

Stifling innovation to, I dunno, squeeze as much profit out of dated hardware sounds anti-consumer to me.

Fortunately GPU manufacturers are competing with each other and if one refuses to launch new hardware because they buy into your silly emotional argument, the other manufacturer will release their new hardware and clean house and we'll all learn a lesson about how your argument is ego massing nonsense. And regretting a purchase you made months later isn't a problem hardware makers need to manage for you.

[Mr English]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Illusion of Progress:

How is intentionally stalling progress helping the consumer?

You seem to be looking at this through a narrow lens. You're not understanding the conditions that led to the GPU market as it is. You seem to be looking at it as though supply was just kept low to raise prices (this was anything but the case) and that since they don't have enough supply, they should just... not make better products indefinitely because then the people who paid the marked up prices are ripped off? If that's your argument, I do not agree with it at all, and I can't imagine many people would.

There's too many problems with that.

The first is, you're saying they should withhold progress for this to deal with an issue (lack of supply) that they neither created nor CAN solve anyway. Supply and demand work together. It's far too easy to fall for the idea that "if there's not enough supply, just make more" right? Well, what happens when the demand side of things become "infinite", which it did due to a certain cryptocurrency spiking? They literally COULD NOT meet that sort of demand. They had higher production than ever and still failed to meet it, which should make that obvious. They could have produced two, four times as much as they did and pricing would have not been much better. This was not a simple "make more to solve it" issue. This is to say nothing of the other things, like inflation, tariffs, logistical issues, shutdowns, etc. it was literally a perfect storm.

The other thing is, nobody forces people to buy things, especially luxury products like this. If you don't feel something is worth the asking price, don't buy it. It's honestly that simple. You don't get to pay a price for something and then cry foul if that same thing is priced lower later, or if something faster is available lower later. That's entitlement. I don't find these prices worth it so you know what I do? I abstain from buying. If you give in and buy, that is on you as a buyer. Be responsible for your buying choices. Don't just complain that the market has to stop moving forward to accommodate your choices. I'm not trying to sound rude but honestly that's a selfish opinion to have. More so because abstaining from advancing would have done NOTHING to help the issues you describe anyway, so... why have the issues with the market we were going to have anyway and ALSO have GPUs stop advancing indefinitely until it gets better? That makes no sense.

You did not read what I said. It is very rare to get the asking price on a GPU these days ffs.
I could go on and on about more reasons but we would end up taking over this discussion.
There is a reason why I said we will just have to agree to disagree. 🙄

[Mr English]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Snakub Plissken:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mr English:

Because it can obviously help the consumer. Fore instance say you want to buy a top range card. You buy that card at an inflated price. Just a few months later a better card is released at a retail price that is cheaper than the inflated price you paid for pthe previous card. Releasing new cards when gpu`s are in short supply only helps the manufacturers. It is anti-consumer. Simple really.

Ok so you're saying if you buy a top end card, at a price you were willing to pay, and new hardware comes out, that's cheaper. That hurts you? Or does it just hurt your feelings, your feeling that you have the most current hardware and that it's still good because nothing is better?

Alright.

What about me? The 30 series is 18 months old. So I might wait for the 40 series. But because some 30 series owners feel put out about the situation, I shouldn't have the option to buy updated hardware? How does all that help me? Also a consumer... in the market for new hardware.

Stifling innovation to, I dunno, squeeze as much profit out of dated hardware sounds anti-consumer to me.

Fortunately GPU manufacturers are competing with each other and if one refuses to launch new hardware because they buy into your silly emotional argument, the other manufacturer will release their new hardware and clean house and we'll all learn a lesson about how your argument is ego massing nonsense. And regretting a purchase you made months later isn't a problem hardware makers need to manage for you.

You fid not read what i said. 🙄 I said after a few months given that GPU prices take an extremely long time to come down to retail price a new more powerful card will be released. Try and imagine buying the most powerful card and only a few months later a more powerful cheaper card is released. If people have money to throw away yeah go ahead. You cant possibly compare a few months to one and a half years......
One and a half years wait is a decent amount of time to wait for a better card There will obviously be better cards released with better value in that timeframe. This alone is not silly. The complete opposite..... btw how would it hurt my feelings?! The only thing it would hurt is a bank balance. Mindlessly throwing money away while another cheaper card better card will be released just a few months away. Doing this would be the definition of silly.....