PLEASE tell me how good my rig is....

[karakan]

Im pretty fu**ing desperate... i was promised this rig would easily play all the newest games on ultra, and im slightly lagging on bf4 and tomb raider. The rig:
AMD FX-6350 AM3+ 4.2GHz - i think its 3.9, but it over clocks itself to 4.2 if it needs
MSI GeForce GTX 660 1006MHz 2GB
8gb ram DDR3 1333Mhz

please tell me if its good because im quite worried.. as i moved to pc gaming from xbox, hoping i could play bf4, tomb raider (all the nice looking games) on ultra, and have only about 30-40 fps on these games...

[karakan]

oh god not this program again :P ill show it to ya in a sec

[Big Al]

You have a mid-range gaming PC. You should be playing your games with mid-range graphical and resolution settings.

What are the resolution and graphic settings you are using?

[karakan]

motherboard: Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 AM3+ AMD 760G DDR3 mATX

i always go for default ultra, which works fine. im even playing tomb raider on "ultimate" settings and it works with no lags

[Big Al]

About that resolution...

[karakan]

well what is a very good-for ultimate gaming pc according to you guys? because i was living in a dream thinking that mine is as good as a "proper gaming pc"

[SunnyCloudy]

For 60fps @ 1080p with ultra setting you need enthusiast level parts.

Xbox one or PS4 do BF4 at what was it.... 720p and and 920p (some weird down sample) with 30 fps and piss poor graphics compared to the PC. They don't even have the 64 player servers for that same reason.

[karakan]

yeah i know i know, but graphically how well do the next gen consoles compare to pc ? like would you as high as "high" settings in the game?

or probably medium, because to be honest with you, i BARELY see any difference between ultra and high

[SunnyCloudy]

the word 'high' means nothing dude. you can't compare PC with XBOX because games on consoles don't even have any video settings.... besides they are all on a lower resolution (less pixels to render for) and probably on low-medium PC comparable details.

[karakan]

thats what i was talking about :P "compared to low-medium pc comparable details" so after all, it was better to get a pc like mine, instead of the next gen consoles, right?

[SunnyCloudy]

i wouldn't know, your choice, but don't expect to play any of the latest games on ultra either. If your system costs about the same as an xbox one it will behave like one + a little bit more.

you can try 1280x720 for a resolution and crank up the video settings as high as you want depending on the frames per second that you're getting be it 60fps for extra smooth experience or 30fps for mostly playable but looking better.

The whole point of the PC is that you have a choice in how the game looks and runs.

[Bosspferd]

Funny, I have almost the same setup. (My GPU is a 660ti, other than that it´s the same).
I didn´t try BF4 or Tomb Raider, but in theory your specs should be sufficient.
Bioshock Infinite e.g. I run on highest settings and have 45ish fps.
A GTX660 should be able to handle ultra settings at 1080p, if not turn down AA a notch.

I think you should be able to improve system perfomance by tweaking some settings, or maybe installing some additional fans. (replacing the boxed cooler (cpu) with a heatpipe cooler can really improve perfomance, e.g.

[_I_]

the 780 board will run the fx cpu at pii specs
should have gottena 700 series board for the fx cpu

[Azza ☠]

Consoles limit their games to match the system specs to run smoothly on a blurry tv screen. It's easier and less hassle if you have no idea what your doing and simply want to play a game or two.

However - PC does 3-5 times better quality than the console, plus more functionality and upgradablity. You just need to understand hardware and bottlenecks, etc, then set the game settings to best match what your hardware can couple with.

Your system does have some bottlenecks, however it's not the end of the world.

Since you have a Nvidia GTX graphics - for quick and easy performance setup:

Download Geforce Experience: http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience

This will keep your graphic drivers up-to-date, which includes some performance boosts for selected games. Then in that software you can also scan for games and at a single click apply optimal game settings to them, calculated upon your current hardware. This is a good starting point and the fastest option to get pretty correct performance to quality ratio on your games, lag-free.

[spasEidolon]

Hopefully I can clarify some things...

OP, you stated your specs earlier, and even though you didn't state your display resolution, I'm going to venture a guess that it's 1920x1080 (1080p)

That being said, I can give you a rough rundown of the relative strength of each of your components:

AMD FX-6350 (processor): A beast of a CPU. Not the fastest chip on the market by any means, but strong enough to handle most if not all games with ease. It has 6 cores. Most games can only utilize four cores, but those two extra cores will still help with games by allowing the operating system to have a decent amount of CPU power to itself. All in all, a very good component. On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 7.

Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 AM3+ AMD 760G (motherboard): It's quite clear that your friend skimped on the motherboard. The AMD 760G platform is used on entry-level boards, and lacks alot of the features found on higher-level boards. While not a bad board, it's not a good board either. This board probably isn't choking up your system, but it's not doing it any favors either. On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 5.

8GB DDR3 1333 (RAM): There's really not a lot to say here. It's RAM. 8GB is more than enough to run any game, and the only reason to get more would be for video encoding or other memory-intensive tasks. DDR3-1333 isn't bad, but it's not great either. Not slow enough to bottleneck your system. On a scale of 1-10, I'd give this a 7.

MSI GTX 660 (graphics card): This is your bottleneck. The GTX660 is a mid-range card, and is intended to run games at medium to high settings at 1080p. The 2GB VRAM is more than enough, but the GPU itself is a little bit lacking in the power department. This should be the next thing you upgrade, even if that's not for a while. On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it a 6.

Overall: Your system is very good, and would eat a console for breakfast. You're already getting better performance than an Xbox One (which would get about 30fps at 720p, with detail equivalent to 'low' graphics settings). If you really want that silky-smooth constant 60fps, I'd recommend turning your settings down to high, or even medium if necessary. A couple years down the line you'll want to get a new GPU (the GTX800 series will probably be out by then, so I'd recommend a GTX 860 or 870). By the time you need the upgrade, you will most likely have saved enough on games to offset the cost.

Enjoy your PC.

[Grey Buddhist]

Nexures, gotta jump in here to debate your thoughts on XBoxOne vs PC thoughts.
First off the pros/cons of each:

XBoxOne gaming Pros
- Cheap way (roughly) to get straight into gaming without having to think about components too much. You buy it and that is it.
- Kinect (when it works with how you want it to).
- Will be able to play any game that comes out for it at decent (not always great) graphics level

XBoxOne gaming Cons
- Most games have limited life spans, so you basically end up 'renting' them. Example: Madden. You buy the game, the company supports updates for about a year, then no more...forcing you to either suck it up or buy the new version.
- Limited updates. Microsoft (unless this changed) only allows a certain number, and only on certain dates/times any updates for your game. I believe this is to give the illusion that whatever game has been given the ok by Microsoft for the XBoxOne does not have alot of bugs/problems or is perfect the way it came out.
- Expensive peripherals. If Microsoft sells it, and you don't work for Microsoft, it's gonna cost you some money.

PC gaming Pros
- Most games are moddable. So even years after a game comes out, people who love the game (possibly even yourself) will still be playing it and probably creating mods for it. There are several games on my PC that I bought years ago that I still play regularly. Some with mods, some without. There are NO XBox360 games that I still play regularly from years ago. Some I might pick up and try again...but none that hold my interest enough to get into as much as when I first bought it.
- If a new game comes out that is just a little too much for your gaming pc to handle (on ULTRA settings), you can buy components that will allow you to play them.
- If a game needs a patch, or update, it is easy for the company to push those out whenever they like.
- Even if a game company stops supporting a game (rarely happens), alot of people who love the game continue to work on it (patches, etc..) to keep it up to date.

PC gaming Cons
- Can get expensive to keep up with the latest greatest components to have your super settings all the time. The main expensive component will be the Video Card. You won't always have to buy the latest/greatest to hit your objective, but you will still be paying some money.
- Sometimes you need patience to get your hands on physical copies of the games. While some stores sell PC games, sometimes they only sell the top hits at the time...sometimes you will have to either digitally download it (Gamestop, Amazon, STEAM, etc..) or order it and wait for it to come in the mail.
- You will always have to debate XBoxOne and PS4 people about which is better and why...even though everyone knows PC gaming is better. ;-)

I currently have a PC, XBox360, and a PS3. I refuse to buy newer console until it's been out at least a year. Too many bugs and other problems that seem to always need ironing out.
My PC is a Gateway LX6810-01 with the following:
Processor - Intel Q8200 2.33Ghz (either 82 or 8300)
Memory - 8GB of lke 800mhz (I think) memory
Power Supply - Corsair CX600M 600Watt (upgraded from original 350 or 400 watt)
Video Card - MSI R7 260X 2GB (upgraded from original GT120 1GB)

While I do not play most of the graphics intensive games (like the ones you list) I am able to play most games at a pretty good graphics level. Even with my GT120 I was able to play most games at a decent level but I just wanted something new, and not too expensive.
Hope this helps you in your thoughts on which way to go.