DDR5-7200 showing 4800

[jeffpmaxs6]

I was getting a game to work on my bro pc and notice he can’t boot using xmp and his ram is reading 4800. He has a Gigabyte X670 and it only seems to support up to 6600. What does he have to do to get that ram speed up?

[N0REGARD4LIFE]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Guydodge:

as far as i can tell thats INTEL ram not specifically designed for AMD

try setting to xmp2 then turn down ram frequency 200 at a time till it boots.
start at 6600
(NOT SURE WHAT THOSE SETTINGS ARE CALLED ON A AMD M.B.)


https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trident-7200MHz-1-40V-Channel/dp/B0BNGK6TLB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1TM3EA3BYU0J6&keywords=G.Skill+Trident+Z5+RGB+32+GB+Ram+7200&qid=1700532620&sprefix=g.skill+trident+z5+rgb+32+gb+ram+7200%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.17d9e15d-4e43-4581-b373-0e5c1a776d5d

There's really no difference. XMP runs perfectly fine on X670/X670E boards as I was using XMP 6400 CL32 just fine before I got an Expo kit with tighter timings. Which oddly I had issue getting it stable. CL30 6000 Trident Z5 Neo.

[Guydodge]

Ursprungligen skrivet av N0REGARD4LIFE:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Guydodge:

as far as i can tell thats INTEL ram not specifically designed for AMD

try setting to xmp2 then turn down ram frequency 200 at a time till it boots.
start at 6600
(NOT SURE WHAT THOSE SETTINGS ARE CALLED ON A AMD M.B.)


https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trident-7200MHz-1-40V-Channel/dp/B0BNGK6TLB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1TM3EA3BYU0J6&keywords=G.Skill+Trident+Z5+RGB+32+GB+Ram+7200&qid=1700532620&sprefix=g.skill+trident+z5+rgb+32+gb+ram+7200%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.17d9e15d-4e43-4581-b373-0e5c1a776d5d

There's really no difference. XMP runs perfectly fine on X670/X670E boards as I was using XMP 6400 CL32 just fine before I got an Expo kit with tighter timings. Which oddly I had issue getting it stable. CL30 6000 Trident Z5 Neo.

i didnt say it wouldnt but not all ram is created equally and AMD can be picky as well as his
board only accepts 6600 so xmp2 will set the timings to the rams default timings.then it
will keep its overclock timings while allowing the frequency to be turned down using
the ram frequency setting and hopefully stabilizing it.

you can also use these settings to stabilize 4 sticks of ram as well.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes you can try that. The problem is if you are setting this up for someone else as opposed to just yourself, as it's always possible for BIOS settings to get reset/reverted at some point down the road. But yes for testing purposes and to help in the short-term you can try enable XMP, once this has occurred at the very moment you enable the XMP profile, this goes and makes changes to DRAM Frequency + Timings + Voltage. So if you already know the RAM can't run at DRAM Frequency = 7200; after you apply the XMP profile you can leave the Timings and Voltage alone and just change DRAM Frequency and see if this gets you proper system stability; such as changing this to 6000, 6400. Not sure about 6600 but maybe try that.

Then when you finally go and select "Save & Exit"
The Motherboard will shutdown and go through a couple restarts all on it's own in order to apply these changes. Please do not interrupt this process. You will know when it's done when it either displaying an error message at POST (something perhaps about unstable OC settings); or the system is stable and boots into the OS. If neither of these occur and the system has stopped doing it's own rebooting cycle, then you have a problem. Where you might need to revert/reset the BIOS and try again. Such as enable XMP again but then try a lower DRAM Freq; such as 6000 or 6400

The best case scenario would be to return the RAM kit and buy a different one. Such as GSkill DDR5 6000 CL30 or 6400 CL32

[Fernando Alonso]

ryzen 7000 runs at 6000 the best
anything lower or higher will ruin it

[Guydodge]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Bad 💀 Motha:

Yes you can try that. The problem is if you are setting this up for someone else as opposed to just yourself, as it's always possible for BIOS settings to get reset/reverted at some point down the road. But yes for testing purposes and to help in the short-term you can try enable XMP, once this has occurred at the very moment you enable the XMP profile, this goes and makes changes to DRAM Frequency + Timings + Voltage. So if you already know the RAM can't run at DRAM Frequency = 7200; after you apply the XMP profile you can leave the Timings and Voltage alone and just change DRAM Frequency and see if this gets you proper system stability; such as changing this to 6000, 6400. Not sure about 6600 but maybe try that.

Then when you finally go and select "Save & Exit"
The Motherboard will shutdown and go through a couple restarts all on it's own in order to apply these changes. Please do not interrupt this process. You will know when it's done when it either displaying an error message at POST (something perhaps about unstable OC settings); or the system is stable and boots into the OS. If neither of these occur and the system has stopped doing it's own rebooting cycle, then you have a problem. Where you might need to revert/reset the BIOS and try again. Such as enable XMP again but then try a lower DRAM Freq; such as 6000 or 6400

The best case scenario would be to return the RAM kit and buy a different one. Such as GSkill DDR5 6000 CL30 or 6400 CL32

XMP2 uses the rams default settings which is considered a overclock you can change the frequency with a alternative setting which will not change the xmp on asus intel motherboards its called ram frequency farther down on the xmp page in bios the xmp will still read as 7200 and keep the same timings.im using it now to stabalize 4 16gb sticks of ram which as im sure you know Asus does not support.and its never reset on me,not once.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes but if you go and change RAM Frequency and do not touch the Timings or Voltage, chances are you wasting your time and the entire point of changing any of that. You can't just leave the default timings its using for say; 4800 Mhz and just crank it up to 6000+ ~ it doesn't work that way, there has to be a balancing act. Which was the entire point of XMP profiles to begin with to take guess work out of it as it does that work of making the changes for you.

Ryzen 7xxx series by itself is not limited to DDR5 6000; but whenever you use a Ryzen X3D model of CPU, yes this more/less is the case as those are much more picky on which RAM you use; more-so the settings everything runs at then anything else. 6000 @ CL30 is the real sweet spot.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

OC Mode on RAM in BIOS. Make sure this is set or XMP will not have enough juice to boot properly thus resetting it back to default.

Some Ryzen CPU's have an issue with XMP and the fix if the XMP CAS is wrong, or the timings are mismatched, is to reflash the BIOS with the current BIOS revision.

This would be the only major issue I have seen on AMD pertaining XMP failure. Intel seemingly does not have this issue as far as I can tell.

[jeffpmaxs6]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Bad 💀 Motha:

If it's new RAM return it and buy something else.

Yeah it’s a whole new build and he wanted to put it together himself. He did alright since it booted up and did everything it was suppose to. If he can set it to xmp and lower it down to 6000 and work would be simple enough and might call it a day.

I’ll tell him about EXPO ram and maybe he will want to get that. Because being able to set the BIOS at default would be best and if 7200 isn’t going to help, then my only question is it going to hurt.

I don’t know if I notice xmp1-2 in his BIOS, but do on my B550. 1-2 look the same too me. What is the difference? My only problem with xmp was after fails attempt at trying to flash my BIOS is the Ram speed would be off and require another restart. Memory having to remember is new to me and doing all that rebooting. Lol. I’m not very patience and will pull the plug. Lol. Naa, just as long as it’s trying and doing something. Just anything over 2 boots will start to get weird too me, like are we building something. Yeah training the soldier ram to get in line. Lol. I prefer one boot and don’t see any good in multiple boots. Just seems like more chance for something to go wrong. He might be better off buying ram that’s already house broken. Lol.

[Zefar]

Ursprungligen skrivet av jeffpmaxs6:

I think he has a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX and G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB Ram.
He has a 7800x3d and 7900xtx, so he's not hurting for fps. We figure the BIOS would have to be flashed. I’ll have to do that next time I’m there. He has 200 fps and 10 more wouldn't hurt. lol.

If he has a 7800x3d it can't use RAM speed up to 6600. At least if you go by what AMD says.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d

Max Memory Speed
2x1R DDR5-5200
2x2R DDR5-5200

4x1R DDR5-3600
4x2R DDR5-3600

[jeffpmaxs6]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Zefar:

Ursprungligen skrivet av jeffpmaxs6:

I think he has a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX and G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB Ram.
He has a 7800x3d and 7900xtx, so he's not hurting for fps. We figure the BIOS would have to be flashed. I’ll have to do that next time I’m there. He has 200 fps and 10 more wouldn't hurt. lol.

If he has a 7800x3d it can't use RAM speed up to 6600. At least if you go by what AMD says.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d

Max Memory Speed
2x1R DDR5-5200
2x2R DDR5-5200

4x1R DDR5-3600
4x2R DDR5-3600

There you go his ram will be faster if he lowered the speed. Lol. Looking at test results there didn’t seem to be much difference between 5200-6000 at least in the higher res and he’s using a 34”.
My 5800x3d looked to benefit though with 4800 vs the 3600 I’m using now.