Slothffles Oct 17, 2022 @ 9:11pm
is it worth upgrading 8086k to i7 13700k?
currently I'm using the 3080 and i7 8086k but lately i've been thinking about upgrading to the i7 13700k because its about to release. how much of a noticeable difference would it be for 2k gaming?

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Set-115689 Oct 17, 2022 @ 9:34pm 
Wait a few days for benchmarks.
Bad 💀 Motha Oct 17, 2022 @ 9:35pm 
Not to mention you'd need new Motherboard and DDR5 RAM
Bad 💀 Motha Oct 17, 2022 @ 9:42pm 
Even my 4790K plays all the games fine at 4K
Ice Robertson Oct 17, 2022 @ 10:01pm 
Well it'll be good if you realise the TDP will be through the moon, So invest in water cooling (a good one) because i don't believe air cooling will do it.
Slothffles Oct 17, 2022 @ 10:08pm 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Not to mention you'd need new Motherboard and DDR5 RAM
wait the i7 13th series doesnt take ddr4?
Ice Robertson Oct 17, 2022 @ 10:10pm 
Originally posted by Slothffles:
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Not to mention you'd need new Motherboard and DDR5 RAM
wait the i7 13th series doesnt take ddr4?

I mean if you want the best out of the processor you should go DDR5, You could probably find a motherboard that'll do DDR4 but it's a bit of a waste.

Get good bones for the system imo.

Edit--

Yup a Z790 DDR4 board

https://www.gigabyte.com/nz/Motherboard/Z790-D-DDR4-rev-10#kf
Last edited by Ice Robertson; Oct 17, 2022 @ 10:12pm
Julien, cut it out. Oct 17, 2022 @ 10:41pm 
Check with a hardware monitoring tool if there is a cpu limit in place and how severe the CPU limitation is. Check the GPU usage, GPU frequency and GPU power consumption. If their values are smaller than max. achievable, then you're in a CPU-side limitation.
Such a behaviour depends on the games you play and graphics settings you use; a limitation can also shift from the CPU- to the GPU-side and vice versa just on the scene currently portrayed.

And I think the more important question is, are you malcontent with the overall performance? With the avg. and min. FPS? Any stutters?
For instance, you can set a framerate cap to a value that is lower than the boundary set by the CPU to get rid of bad frametime pacing caused by the CPU.

https://youtu.be/5FtWpDb5JtQ
Last edited by Julien, cut it out.; Oct 17, 2022 @ 10:42pm
Bad 💀 Motha Oct 17, 2022 @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by Slothffles:
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Not to mention you'd need new Motherboard and DDR5 RAM
wait the i7 13th series doesnt take ddr4?

Why not just go with AMD B550 Motherboard + Ryzen 5700X and the rest of your parts you can use with that, even your current DDR4

I would suggest doing a clean install of Win11 afterwards which ever way you go.

But even if the 13th Gen can use DDR4, you won't get the full performance going that route.
🦜Cloud Boy🦜 Oct 17, 2022 @ 11:50pm 
You will probably get around 20% extra performance with i7-13700k.
That's until you hit the limit of your RTX 3080.

Your i7-8086k is still a okay CPU. It can produce 100, or near 100 fps in any games.
If your screen resolution is 1440p or above, there will be very little or no-difference at all.
Slothffles Oct 18, 2022 @ 1:36am 
Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:
Originally posted by Slothffles:
wait the i7 13th series doesnt take ddr4?

When I built my 12th gen system I opted for DDR5. Why go half measure? And you're running fairly highend parts, so DDR5 doesn't seem crazy. But it's not like the system will be crippled with DDR4 either.

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-alder-lake-ram-guide-ddr4-ddr5

It may not be a corner you need to cut to save money. And DDR5 will perform a bit better. But it'll be up to you to decide do you want to use last gen RAM, or do you want to be current? And over 4 years the cost difference for DDR5 is gonna be negligible, pennies a day or less. DDR4 will work fine. But I give you permission to treat yourself if you're inclined to do so.
is there a asus motherboard that supports ddr4 and ddr5?
plat Oct 18, 2022 @ 2:46am 
https://www.aomeitech.com/windows-tips/ddr5-ddr4-adapter-for-memory-transition.html

ASUS seems to be the only one out in the open that is dev. an expansion card that will make ddr4 compatible with ddr5 boards. This hasn't happened yet, obviously

Acc. to some online sources, there is something called an H610 that has one ddr5 slot and the rest are ddr4. Of course you probably guessed this is silly as the single slot can't run in dual channel on this board so you lose out on that performance edge a bit.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/this-intel-h610-motherboard-has-both-a-ddr4-and-ddr5-dimm-slot.html#:~:text=Onda%252C%20a%20Chinese%20motherboard%20maker,and%20one%20DDR5%20memory
Bad 💀 Motha Oct 18, 2022 @ 3:34am 
What is so hard about the vendors coming out with Motherboards
that have 4x DIMM slots; 2 for DDR5 and 2 for DDR4.

I remember back when we were making the shift to DDR1, there were plenty of boards that had 2 slots for SDRAM and 2 for DDR1; you used one or the other, not both; obviously.

In the case of DDR4 vs 5; many people would already have DDR4 in their possession and thus allowing them to make the transition more easily, then maybe get DDR5 later on when they can.

Some might say that limiting yourself to 2 DIMMs is an issue all its own; but if you were to use 2x 16GB I don't really see much issues. Obviously if you need more RAM then that then you would go purchase a board that is solely DDR4 or DDR5
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Oct 18, 2022 @ 3:34am
Ralf Oct 18, 2022 @ 6:56am 
For 2K(1080p) gaming, I would rather get a 5800X3D.
Crashed Oct 18, 2022 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by Ralf:
For 2K(1080p) gaming, I would rather get a 5800X3D.
CPU usage generally doesn't scale a lot with resolution, though it does with framerate.
Originally posted by Slothffles:
currently I'm using the 3080 and i7 8086k but lately i've been thinking about upgrading to the i7 13700k because its about to release. how much of a noticeable difference would it be for 2k gaming?
My previous rig had a i7 4790k it has 4 cores. And run at 4,7ghz. I could run skyrim and fallout 4 in 4K with ease. So not much.
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