Good CRT recommendation?

[Yskas]

I am throwing out every flat panel marketing buzzword filled plastic scrap out of my life, I am no longer going to operate on a vastly inferior and flawed technology pretending to be otherwise.

I need good CRT monitor recommendation for my PC.

[Monk]

Автор сообщения: Bluegoon

Автор сообщения: Autumn_

>Flickers
Lmao, enjoy eye pain half an hour, to an hour into looking at the display.

>Flickers
t. formulated opinion on CRTs by watching Youtube video records, on his LCD..

I used crt's, even good ones for years, they suck compared to good new monitors.

[Magma Dragoon]

Why not plasma?

[MAXE]

Sony GDM-FW900, HP A7217A, SGI GDM-FW9011, and Sun GDM-FW9010 thous Crt´s was among the best crt screens in the world .. but you will have it hard time to find one today, for thous screens are over 20 years old now ..

[_I_]

Автор сообщения: Magma Dragoon

Why not plasma?

yes, a 300+w display that weights 60+lbs

they do offer better blacks than lcd displays, but the power needed is about 10x a led display

he could also be looking for a good dlp or front projection tv

[MAXE]

Asus make some good screens aswell with 0 ms response time .. and 1 ms refresh rate .. no input lag

[nullable]

Автор сообщения: Bluegoon

Автор сообщения: Autumn_

>Flickers
Lmao, enjoy eye pain half an hour, to an hour into looking at the display.

>Flickers
t. formulated opinion on CRTs by watching Youtube video records, on his LCD..

I wouldn't be too sure. You're operating from a position where you think your opinions are and concerns represent objective reality. Other people's opinions may differ from yours and that doesn't mean you're the only informed one.

I used CRT's for years. The last CRT I had was a huge 90lb 1600x1200 Trinitron is was great. Despite the trinitron wires running through the screen. I run some pretty nice IPS 2560x1440 screens now though. The CRT was good, especially for the time. But not so good where I'd consider switching back regardless of the downsides LCD's have. For my money the upsides for LCD's the their downsides and CRT's aren't so amazing their upsides outweigh their downsides.

One thing I miss is the resolution switching. Sometimes it might be nice to run games at 1080p vs 1440p without that non-native blurring that occurs on LCDs. But CRT's can't match the refresh rates and don't have frame syncing. They're also huge boat anchors and power hungry too. There's probably not too many widescreen CRT's. That's not to say CRT's don't have their place, it's just that place is niche. LCD's aren't a perfect technology, but we got something for the trade I'd argue.

[MAXE]

To be able to get a refreshrate at pure 1 ms you will need a graphics card that can put out 1000 frames pr sec .. first then you will have a 1 to 1 framerate ..

[_I_]

Автор сообщения: M-A-X-E™

To be able to get a refreshrate at pure 1 ms you will need a graphics card that can put out 1000 frames pr sec .. first then you will have a 1 to 1 framerate ..

learn how gpus and displays work

[jphendren]

I still game on a crt:

https://www.cnet.com/products/gateway-vx1120-crt-monitor-22/

I have never owned a modern monitor, bought this new in 2000 for something like $1,200. It’s basically a rebadged Mitsubishi 2020u. Has a gorgeous picture. It’s now hooked up to a RTX 2080 Super. Only issue I’ve come across is that I can’t run the monitor at its max resolution and refresh rate due to the adapter I’m forced to use. Limits me to 1900 x 1200 @ 60 Hz. Use to game at 1920 x 1440 @ 85 Hz on my GTX 660 Ti.

[Illusion of Progress]

I had a CRT until around... 2011-ish? It was a 21" IBM P275. I got it used cheap in the mid-2000s. That was when everyone was going en masse to those 1280 x 1024 TN panels, and 1680 x 1050 and 1920 x 1200 were the higher end and expensive displays (or a little later, the behemoth 27" or 30" 2560 x 1600 ones). Unfortunately, my CRT started having issues where, after turned on and warmed up, it'd "pop" and go out momentarily, then come back on. It may have been a bad capacitor but I wasn't about the guess and mess around, so I gave it away and started looking for a replacement.

I decided I'd go to LCD after trying to before and not being able to deal with it since it was going to be inevitable anyway. This time I decided I wouldn't compromise and wouldn't consider TN panels. I went with a Dell UltraSharp U2410 that I'm using to this day. There were some transitional issues to get over (like the heavy AG coating, or the slight ghosting even at the desktop, and everyone laughed at me at the time for bringing it up but now these days, people upgrade to 120 Hz+ and one of the first things they say is "you can even notice a smoothness difference on the desktop"), but overall I've been happy with it. The resolution flexibility and Blacks are probably what I miss most, but the good CRTs also have great color, viewing angle advantage (IPS is often good enough here, but I will never touch a TN panel for this reason alone) and response. LCDs have advantages too, though, like better geometry (no more messing with that), better sharpness/clarity, typically larger resolutions and bigger size options now, as well as natural widescreen form factors, and smaller footprint in both size and weight. The change to LCD was never entirely about better image quality across the board though; CRTs absolutely hold some advantages there.

I sort of wish I kept that old cheap 15" shadow mask CRT I had years ago; it was low end and small but would make a great display for those older, lower resolution 4:3 games.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Sony KV-32V42 32" Trinitron TV is what i have
it was made in Dec of 99

its a Hundred and 60 damn pounds according to the specs on the back which is why it took me and a friend to get it up to the 2nd floor and which is why its still in my attic.

92lbs is nothing, hell i could move that by myself
But 160lbs? nope. i can budge it, but tryin to pick it up is a nope nope. i had to wobble the thing just to get it into the attic

[Illusion of Progress]

Автор сообщения: ☥ - CJ -

Sony KV-32V42 32" Trinitron TV is what i have
it was made in Dec of 99

its a Hundred and 60 damn pounds according to the specs on the back which is why it took me and a friend to get it up to the 2nd floor and which is why its still in my attic.

92lbs is nothing, hell i could move that by myself
But 160lbs? nope. i can budge it, but tryin to pick it up is a nope nope. i had to wobble the thing just to get it into the attic

Aperture grille displays at larger sizes were heavy. My 21" monitor was like 68 pounds if I remember right, and yeah something like that could definitely be moved with just a little bit of muscle, but I still don't miss it. The majority of the weight is in the front frame. They were strong and had a lot of wires running up and down, and then one or two (two on the larger ones) horizontal wires to keep them more stable, and these wires left a slight visible shadow.

I remember helping a friend move years ago, and he had one of those wide screen CRTs around the upper 20" or maybe 32" range. Took both of us to get it out of his apartment, down the elevator, and out to the parking lot when he sold it... to some young guy who showed up in a tiny Honda and BARELY got it through his door into his passenger seat. Good times.

[[☥] - CJ -]

When i bought it at Best Buy or Circuit City ages ago, i at least didnt have a problem moving it due to my smexy 99 Tahoe that i still have today <3

But in my case, its a 32" TV Flat Panel not a monitor which makes it heavier

For years i actually considered tearing it apart to make it easier to toss out, but i havent gotten around to feeling like doing it.

Tell you what though, playing games on that thing in the years when it was still new was amazeballs.

https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-kv-32v42-32-crt-tv/

[_I_]

ya i had one of those 32 trinitron tvs too
150lb monster

Portability tabletop
someone is joking, right

[Yskas]

Автор сообщения: Brockenstein

Автор сообщения: Bluegoon

>Flickers
t. formulated opinion on CRTs by watching Youtube video records, on his LCD..

I wouldn't be too sure. You're operating from a position where you think your opinions are and concerns represent objective reality. Other people's opinions may differ from yours and that doesn't mean you're the only informed one.

I used CRT's for years. The last CRT I had was a huge 90lb 1600x1200 Trinitron is was great. Despite the trinitron wires running through the screen. I run some pretty nice IPS 2560x1440 screens now though. The CRT was good, especially for the time. But not so good where I'd consider switching back regardless of the downsides LCD's have. For my money the upsides for LCD's the their downsides and CRT's aren't so amazing their upsides outweigh their downsides.

One thing I miss is the resolution switching. Sometimes it might be nice to run games at 1080p vs 1440p without that non-native blurring that occurs on LCDs. But CRT's can't match the refresh rates and don't have frame syncing. They're also huge boat anchors and power hungry too. There's probably not too many widescreen CRT's. That's not to say CRT's don't have their place, it's just that place is niche. LCD's aren't a perfect technology, but we got something for the trade I'd argue.

Why is weight and bulk such an issue? If you're not nomadic and live in a shoebox this shouldn't be a problem. If you're a healthy > 6ft European male moving a 100lb object really shouldn't be an issue in the slightest.

Also the power draw thing, if having to pay a tiny bit more for electricity is a problem then, well, you probably have more urgent priorities than niche display tech.