Yskas 17/ago./2020 às 23:26
Good CRT recommendation?
I am throwing out every flat panel marketing buzzword filled plastic scrap out of my life, I am no longer going to operate on a vastly inferior and flawed technology pretending to be otherwise.

I need good CRT monitor recommendation for my PC.
Última edição por Yskas; 17/ago./2020 às 23:27
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_I_ 17/ago./2020 às 23:40 
none

very few crt are digital, (dvi-d, dp or hdim inputs)

there are lots of good lcd displays
most cheapos have poor backlighting or power/main boards
and many suffered from bad caps or bad leds
2005-2010 range cfl had bad caps that would not last more than 5-10 years
the early led models had poor cooling on the leds or poor power boards

to filer out most crap, pick one with dp input, 2ms or lower responce time, 1080p-1440p-2160p

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#i=50&r=409602160,384002160,344001440,256001440,192001200,192001080&F=508000000,965200000&D=60000,280000&G=100000000000,5000000000000&sort=price&page=1
Yskas 18/ago./2020 às 0:08 
Escrito originalmente por _I_:
none

very few crt are digital, (dvi-d, dp or hdim inputs)

there are lots of good lcd displays
most cheapos have poor backlighting or power/main boards
and many suffered from bad caps or bad leds
2005-2010 range cfl had bad caps that would not last more than 5-10 years
the early led models had poor cooling on the leds or poor power boards

to filer out most crap, pick one with dp input, 2ms or lower responce time, 1080p-1440p-2160p

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#i=50&r=409602160,384002160,344001440,256001440,192001200,192001080&F=508000000,965200000&D=60000,280000&G=100000000000,5000000000000&sort=price&page=1
LCD is awful compared to even basic CRT displays, this is not a debate, this is fact. You can happily throw all the marketing buzzwords around till your face turns blue, this slaving to marketing is exactly why we're stuck with this expensive inferior garbage "standard" today.

I am not interested to hear how you need to convince yourself in the face of objective truth that spending so much on very inferior technology is a good idea.

https://youtu.be/V8BVTHxc4LM


So question, would a HDMI/Display Port to VGA converter cause any kind of degradation or input lag?

I played Shinobi 3 - Sega Genesis on an ancient, barely functional CRT TV last night, it was the most beautiful game I've played in YEARS, in YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!

That rickety little TV did more than all the hot liquid 4k garbage I've ever bought put together, I'll no longer try to convince myself that LCD/IPS/LED/OLEDBBQWTF is anywhere even REMOTELY close to where CRT is, and I will NOT spend another decade or more chasing the moment they actually finally catch up, I want to return to form.

You're of course welcome to spend $1000s to try and mimic the real thing, I'll just opt for the real deal instead.
Última edição por Yskas; 18/ago./2020 às 0:19
_I_ 18/ago./2020 às 1:24 
digital to analog converters add a small delay
if done on the gpu with analog output it will not add delays, but any modern dedicated gpu does not have analog outputs (dvi-d cannot be adapted to vga)

vga monitors do not have pixels, they use comb filters and will light the closest color cell that the beam hits
(aa/af is done on the display and not needed to be done on the gpu, since the gpu has no defined pixels)

newer lcd displays can have much higher response and refresh rates than crt could ever give

the first few gens of lcds were horrible, large pixels with lots of delays
16+ms would result in ghosting
newer ones with <2ms will not ghost at all

its hard to find a crt monitor that can do 1080p or larger than 24in
FireGryph 18/ago./2020 às 1:32 
As quoted from an article found on google: " I invested in a display widely considered to be one of the greatest CRTs ever made - the Sony Trinitron FW900 - a 16:10 24-inch screen. As the video hopefully demonstrates, picture quality is immense, but so is the heft of the screen. It weighs 42kg and with a 600x550mm footprint, the amount of real estate required is not insignificant."

24 inch screen. 42kg. Thats 92lbs, for a 24 inch screen. Taking up a 2 foot x 1.8 foot area on the desk/table

Weigh your priorities. CRT is hardly convenient in any regard. They are big, bulky, hardly widely available anymore, and require a lot of effort just to set up and get working properly. The inputs from whatever device you have is likely to need an adapter, going from HDMI/DisplayPort back to component, VGA, etc.

But, if youre still just dead-set on getting a CRT, so be it. Google 'best CRT monitor' and you'll come across plenty of articles.
Última edição por FireGryph; 18/ago./2020 às 1:34
Nabster 18/ago./2020 às 1:36 
Just get any crt that you can find, no need for recommendation
[☥] - CJ - 18/ago./2020 às 2:51 
i still have my huge ass sony trinitron TV in the attic which is about 20 years or so old now
no idea when i'm ever gonna be able to toss it out :/

With that said
CRT's would really only be useful for older consoles
Última edição por [☥] - CJ -; 18/ago./2020 às 2:52
Rumpelcrutchskin 18/ago./2020 às 3:27 
Very edgy lol.
CRT is dead.
Lord Flashheart 18/ago./2020 às 4:05 
Escrito originalmente por Bluegoon:
I am throwing out every flat panel marketing buzzword filled plastic scrap out of my life, I am no longer going to operate on a vastly inferior and flawed technology pretending to be otherwise.

I need good CRT monitor recommendation for my PC.

Good luck on finding one that still works. There would be little economic incentive to fix them.

Edit:

I stand corrected. People are buying them.
Not for me thanks.
Última edição por Lord Flashheart; 18/ago./2020 às 4:26
Andrius227 18/ago./2020 às 4:15 
Ugh... i still remember the old days when i had a crt... My eyes would start hurting after an hour or two and i would have to take long breaks... Looking at crt screens is literally torture.

Staring at an ips screen for 18 hours a day without any breaks is no problem tho...

Dont understand why would anyone want something as dreadfull as a crt...
Última edição por Andrius227; 18/ago./2020 às 4:18
Monk 18/ago./2020 às 4:30 
While crt has its advantages, it doesn't look as good as a modern high end screen, plus, they take up a massive ammount of space for a relitively small screen.
Autumn_ 18/ago./2020 às 4:44 
>Flickers
Lmao, enjoy eye pain half an hour, to an hour into looking at the display.
nullable 18/ago./2020 às 7:14 
Escrito originalmente por Monk:
While crt has its advantages, it doesn't look as good as a modern high end screen, plus, they take up a massive ammount of space for a relitively small screen.

Or you get a larger trinitron screen, with little wires visible going across the screen. You develop blindness to them eventually.
Yskas 18/ago./2020 às 10:15 
Escrito originalmente por _I_:
digital to analog converters add a small delay

DAMN IT!!!!!!!!

I heard Display Port has an analogue mode?
Última edição por Yskas; 18/ago./2020 às 10:16
Yskas 18/ago./2020 às 10:17 
Escrito originalmente por FireGryph:
As quoted from an article found on google: " I invested in a display widely considered to be one of the greatest CRTs ever made - the Sony Trinitron FW900 - a 16:10 24-inch screen. As the video hopefully demonstrates, picture quality is immense, but so is the heft of the screen. It weighs 42kg and with a 600x550mm footprint, the amount of real estate required is not insignificant."

24 inch screen. 42kg. Thats 92lbs, for a 24 inch screen. Taking up a 2 foot x 1.8 foot area on the desk/table

Weigh your priorities. CRT is hardly convenient in any regard. They are big, bulky, hardly widely available anymore, and require a lot of effort just to set up and get working properly. The inputs from whatever device you have is likely to need an adapter, going from HDMI/DisplayPort back to component, VGA, etc.

But, if youre still just dead-set on getting a CRT, so be it. Google 'best CRT monitor' and you'll come across plenty of articles.

>42kg

Good Lord.
Yskas 18/ago./2020 às 10:20 
Escrito originalmente por Autumn_:
>Flickers
Lmao, enjoy eye pain half an hour, to an hour into looking at the display.
>Flickers
t. formulated opinion on CRTs by watching Youtube video records, on his LCD..
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