The big GPU/Tech Rumours thread - Nvidia/AMD/Others - Is it worth to invest now? what news are here now? Feel free to debate

[AdahnGorion]

This thread has evolved a alot and has now become a New Runours on tech thread - It is primarily focused on GPU´s and it should stay that way. I will update the thread, whenever we have new information about newer GPU´s releasing. Feel free to debate some of the more catchy tech rumours as well.

I have reserved this field in our thread starter to keep current debates up and new information.
Atm.


2024/2025

Here are the official announcements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k82RwXqZHY8&t=1496s
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/
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Varous information about the new 5000 series.
https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidia-unveils-new-geforce-rtx-5090-rtx-5080-rtx-5070-ti-and-rtx-5070-graphics-cards-at-ces-2025


We have started to see more information about the new Nvidia Blackwell GPU´s (5000´s series)

Here is a leak, not very interesting tbh.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5000-specs-boring-leak
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-blackwell/



2023

We debate the 4000 series released and the ones that will release, a long with the rumours about the 5000 series, that is showcased to be the biggest leap in GPU history performance wise (like everytime ofc)

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/amp/


2021

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-increase-efficiency-of-chips-thirtyfold-by-2025
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-shows-off-geforce-rtx-with-noctua-cooler
https://winfuture.de/news,125475.html



So I figured we should have a thread about the new RTX 3xxx series, that is soon to release.
What is your feeling about it? Do you think some of the rumours are true? Are you upgrading?


The flagship seems to be a 3090 (I like them going back to the x90 tier)
https://videocardz.com/newz/micron-confirms-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gets-21gbps-gddr6x-memory

Personally I will not upgrade yet and even if I had to (I do not) I would still wait for prices to go down, early adoption is expenssive and often not worth it. But I am interested about what rumours might be true.

Some of the earlier rumours have suggested even higher GB numbers (from 16 and up) and performance claims have been all from 10-50% in effective speed and up to 60% in ray tracing inprovement.


I think it will be a 10-15% max in effective speed on each tier, but I do think we will see significant increases in the Ray Tracing spectrum.


Other sources (remember to take sources and numbers with a grain of salt)
https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-rtx-3000-launch-details-leak-and-amd-could-be-in-big-trouble
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69629/nvidia-ampere-gpu-50-faster-turing-half-power/index.html
https://www.gpumag.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3000-series/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3080-rumors-news-release-date-performance/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/10/nvidia-ampere-rtx-3000-everything-we-know-so-far/
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-card-pictured
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-allegedly-cancels-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-and-rtx-3070-16gb
Pricing
https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark
https://www.neowin.net/news/alleged-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-launch-dates-have-leaked/

AMD - Big Navi

It will be interesting to see what AMD brings to the table. Personally I think they will go for the mid tier market and if they succeed then, we might see battles for the top tier next generation.

Rumours

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-navi-21-xt-graphics-card-specs-leak/
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-navi-21-xt-xl-leak-suggests-an-over-2-0ghz-boost-clock/
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-amds-navi-21-gpu-has-255-watts-tgp-and-boost-up-to-2-4-ghz.html
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-21-xt-to-feature-2-3-2-4-ghz-game-clock-250w-tgp-and-16-gb-gddr6-memory
https://www.igorslab.de/en/3dmark-in-ultra-hd-benchmarks-the-rx-6800xt-without-and-with-raytracing/
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-alleged-3dmark-scores-hit-the-web
https://wccftech.com/intel-first-high-end-xe-hpg-dg2-gaming-graphics-pictured-rumored-specs-performance-rtx-3080-performance/amp/


Interesting stats about Big Navi

It seems like all will ship with atleast 16 GB, if that is true, that is surprising tbh.
Rumours talk about 2.4GHz clock on the Navi 21 XT. I think it will be pretty exciting to watch. We will know more in a week, once it gets revealed.


It seems that Nvidia is releasing a new series for miners and are changing the 3060, that will release on 25 of feb. Links below.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-cmp-mining-cards-rtx-3060-half-hash-rate/
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-availability-crypto-mining-cmp-gpu
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/cmp/

Various Rumours about hardware

https://videocardz.com/newz/bitmain-antminer-e9-ethereum-asic-is-as-powerful-as-32-geforce-rtx-3080-graphics-cards
https://wccftech.com/mainstream-ddr5-memory-modules-pictured-rolling-out-for-mass-production/amp/



Do you want to show off your new build or even just your old build. Then you can do so at
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/5413843407449992305/

That is our benchmark thread. You are still free to debate hardware related stuff and new builds here ofc.

[AdahnGorion]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

AdahnGorion님이 먼저 게시:

No. I said it depends on what we catagories as playing gamers and what you catagorize GPU´s as.. is a x30 a gamer card? What about a mobile? most gamers are on mobile.

The overall point is that most people use low entry cards, they do.. x60 (the 3060 is the most popular card and most owned)

My overall argument is, that people that use their laptop primarily for studying or work, does not need more than that x50 or x60 and that the gain <-- notice gain, of 15% from one x50 model vs another in a modern desktop <-- (not laptop) is pointless to talk about. Mainly because most of those users will have lower ress, than the desktop.

I think the x50 series is pretty cheap and affordable for most people that can afford basic luxury (hardware) I think its silly to try and compare a study/work laptop based around a x50 with an x80 and triple A gaming on ultra settings.. (I actually think any benchmarks on ultra is pointless, but that is another debate)


Again. Its important to understand that my argument, is that the original 6gb is perfectly fine for most usage.. it has nothing to do with other cards or what you play.. albeit.. obviously.. depending on what your needs are, everything change ofc..

The 3050 does pretty well in my opinion for the price (despite the harsh period with shortage, but everything was affected by it)


Most users however does have a card around the x60 - x70. I personally think buying an x90 is a waste of resources, if you play 1080p, then everything above x70 is often a waste, but that again is another debate.

Lets be honest here. nobody buying a laptop with an x50 expects to play on higher settings with RT on ie. and in most cases they don´t need to.
As with the last showcase, you can run Jedi Survivor with that x50 card, with 25-40 fps if you tweak.. but when most of the actual users are using them for work/study and some even young, then it can be a perfect solutions.. again.. nobody needs a mid or even entry level card to play Roblox.

Nobody was talking about laptops, only you, the topic was on the 3050 6GB desktop GPU.

I know. but the 3050 does not have as big a margin as you think and my point was, that even with a 3050, you can do just about anything you want, even with the cheap 6gb.. but obviously nobody will tell people to buy a x50 card for AAA gaming... The gain from 6-8 in games such as dota2, roblox, minecraft, so forth.. is so minimal, that it might make better sense to go for a 4060 (its not a big add on, its like 40 euro more here, than the 8gb 3050)

[r.linder]

AdahnGorion님이 먼저 게시:

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

Nobody was talking about laptops, only you, the topic was on the 3050 6GB desktop GPU.

I know. but the 3050 does not have as big a margin as you think and my point was, that even with a 3050, you can do just about anything you want, even with the cheap 6gb.. but obviously nobody will tell people to buy a x50 card for AAA gaming... The gain from 6-8 in games such as dota2, roblox, minecraft, so forth.. is so minimal, that it might make better sense to go for a 4060 (its not a big add on, its like 40 euro more here, than the 8gb 3050)

And the 6GB is going to be a cheaper card, they aren’t buying a 4060 if their sights are in the range of any 3050. The only people buying them are people on a really low budget that aren’t aware of the 6600.

[AdahnGorion]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

AdahnGorion님이 먼저 게시:

I know. but the 3050 does not have as big a margin as you think and my point was, that even with a 3050, you can do just about anything you want, even with the cheap 6gb.. but obviously nobody will tell people to buy a x50 card for AAA gaming... The gain from 6-8 in games such as dota2, roblox, minecraft, so forth.. is so minimal, that it might make better sense to go for a 4060 (its not a big add on, its like 40 euro more here, than the 8gb 3050)

And the 6GB is going to be a cheaper card, they aren’t buying a 4060 if their sights are in the range of any 3050. The only people buying them are people on a really low budget that aren’t aware of the 6600.

That was my point earlier as well, if people want me to recommend them a card, that is overly budget but can still play various games (mainstream ones) I would showcase the 6600.
Its basically a inbetween card to from the 3050 to the 3060.

I can´t change people´s budget.. obviously.. in a perfect world everybody had whatever they desired. What we can debate is if its worth it to go from 6 - 8 gb and the price it cost.. again if you can afford the 3050 8 gb, then I dare say, many can afford or save up for a 4060 instead (with the 35-50 euro higher price)

[C1REX]

I came here to agree that GPUs like the 3050 6GB or 6500 XT are outrageous. It’s so bad it almost feels like a scam, and in my opinion, these cards are harmful to the PC market.

[r.linder]

NVIDIA is basically just trying to capitalise on the fact that people on a really low budget might default to buying an NVIDIA GPU because they see people recommending NVIDIA all of the time online, especially since last I heard, they stopped making GTX 16 series cards, so the stock is dwindling.

[C1REX]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

NVIDIA is basically just trying to capitalise on the fact that people on a really low budget might default to buying an NVIDIA GPU because they see people recommending NVIDIA all of the time online, especially since last I heard, they stopped making GTX 16 series cards, so the stock is dwindling.

Man, people say something like “if you want the best - you buy Nvidia” and they buy 3050 or 1650. It would be funny if it wasn’t sad.

[AdahnGorion]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

NVIDIA is basically just trying to capitalise on the fact that people on a really low budget might default to buying an NVIDIA GPU because they see people recommending NVIDIA all of the time online, especially since last I heard, they stopped making GTX 16 series cards, so the stock is dwindling.

I actually see most people recommend AMD ( I do myself) for people wanting to go low budget and even entry level sometimes.. It ofc depends on what people want.
In many cases however, people that end up with such a card as the 3050 6gb most likely are not the biggest techies in the world..

All companies tries to score extra revenue. Consumers can do abit.. not much, but abit.. sadly I don´t think most of the consumers care to much about it all.. they just buy, even when the price rise.

[AdahnGorion]

C1REX님이 먼저 게시:

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

NVIDIA is basically just trying to capitalise on the fact that people on a really low budget might default to buying an NVIDIA GPU because they see people recommending NVIDIA all of the time online, especially since last I heard, they stopped making GTX 16 series cards, so the stock is dwindling.

Man, people say something like “if you want the best - you buy Nvidia” and they buy 3050 or 1650. It would be funny if it wasn’t sad.

Nobody would recommend any of those for AAA gaming or a system specifically made for gaming overall.. But some people are in a situation, where they can only afford something around that budget.. In such cased I could (if they refuse AMD) recommend 2 generation old cards on a higher tier (often much stronger) at a similar if not cheaper price at some times.

[r.linder]

1650 is pretty common to see recommended for older systems that don't have a good enough power supply for a more power hungry GPU, a lot of people are still buying old refurbished machines with i5s and i7s, or even Xeons, and throwing an lower power GTX card in them.

It's still a market that exists and it's fine for the people that have to penny pinch.

[C1REX]

Nvidia kind of recommends these GPUs by selling them to gamers as gaming GPUs.

1650 is currently the second most popular gaming GPU on steam. 3050 is in the top 10.

I see people on Tekken 8 forum (UE5 game) asking why the game runs bad on their 1650.
If a fighting games drops frames for one player, it slows the game to the other player.
The game offers cross play and people are starting to avoid PC gamers because of that.

[AdahnGorion]

C1REX님이 먼저 게시:

Nvidia kind of recommends these GPUs by selling them to gamers as gaming GPUs.

1650 is currently the second most popular gaming GPU on steam. 3050 is in the top 10.

I see people on Tekken 8 forum (UE5 game) asking why the game runs bad on their 1650.
If a fighting games drops frames for one player, it slows the game to the other player.
The game offers cross play and people are starting to avoid PC gamers because of that.

Top 10

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 4.83%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 2.70%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop


x60 is the most dominant in the top.
Intel Iris Xe Graphics is in top15...

The thing is, if we start to look more in detail, then there are more people with a x60 and above, than below (obviously)

I am not surprised that NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070, is at rank 16, with 1.50%
Its been rather good value for a generation that is pretty awful.. Still behind many other generations ofc in terms of overall value.. but its new times.

Its important to also talk about the regional/country distribution of some of these cards as well. Again I might be very biased, because I would be hard pressed to find anyone with a lower tier than x60 here.. the x50 is for backup for some (even I have one, I also have a 3060ti as backup..) that being said.. some do get them.. my old old old mom.. have a x50 card in her laptop, but a x60 in her desktop.. she never complained about it not running farmville.

The point here is, that it all depends and there are way to many factors, but we can agree to the fact that when Nvidia tries to push the x30 and x50 series as actual "good" gamer cards, there is an issue.

[r.linder]

x60 is at the top at only 4% of the people who actually submit their specs for the survey when it was last taken, it's not entirely accurate, but close, and the reason why it's the 3060 is because of the original 12GB model that was pretty popular when it came out because it's basically the same performance as a 2070 SUPER but with more VRAM.

A lot of people were upgrading in 2020 because it was a big boom for hardware, with AMD finally being truly competitive with Intel on CPUs, and very competitive with NVIDIA on graphics.

Most people are buying prebuilts with 3060s in them though, not the individual GPUs, most people still don't build their own systems. It falls in line with the highest average core count on Steam being 6 cores, there are tons of systems out there on the market that include a Ryzen 5 or i5 with a 3060.

[AdahnGorion]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

x60 is at the top at only 4% of the people who actually submit their specs for the survey when it was last taken, it's not entirely accurate, but close, and the reason why it's the 3060 is because of the original 12GB model that was pretty popular when it came out because it's basically the same performance as a 2070 SUPER but with more VRAM.

A lot of people were upgrading in 2020 because it was a big boom for hardware, with AMD finally being truly competitive with Intel on CPUs, and very competitive with NVIDIA on graphics.

Most people are buying prebuilts with 3060s in them though, not the individual GPUs, most people still don't build their own systems. It falls in line with the highest average core count on Steam being 6 cores, there are tons of systems out there on the market that include a Ryzen 5 or i5 with a 3060.

I agree with most of this and yes.. the vast majority of people buy prebuild or even package solutions.

[backtothefuturestroh]

Is this just a random survey came up in February? Seems odd. Think it popped up last summer out of the blue as well. Really don't spend a lot of time on specs. When most of my fav's seem to have signed deals with AMD or Nvidia.

[carl]

A&A님이 먼저 게시:

The RTX3050 might have a bad reputation because of its price during the shortage, it was around $300-$500 back then. And the only reason I can see why Nvidia released it with so much VRAM is to satisfy engineering software users and people who are willing to spend the price just to run something on their PC.

Interesting. The RTX3050 6GB variant and the GTX1650 GDDR5 have the same memory and bus bandwidth, while both should be around $170 new.

The new Ryzen APUs are terribly disappointing because for $229 I'd be better off getting an I3 12100F or I5 12400F with an RX6500XT or no GPU and a non-F version instead.

It goes to show that APUs are not quite there yet to usurp budget discrete GPUs. AMD marketing seemed to be geared towards gamers. At current pricing I can see it appealing to a small crowd but not many budget gamers would be looking for a Ryzen 7. Ryzen 5 maybe but having had a Ryzen 5 2400g a weaker CPU with a stronger GPU combination would make better sense if you are on a budget. I'd be interested see if the 8500g and 8300g will offer better value.