The big GPU/Tech Rumours thread - Nvidia/AMD/Others - Is it worth to invest now? what news are here now? Feel free to debate

[AdahnGorion]

This thread has evolved a alot and has now become a New Runours on tech thread - It is primarily focused on GPU´s and it should stay that way. I will update the thread, whenever we have new information about newer GPU´s releasing. Feel free to debate some of the more catchy tech rumours as well.

I have reserved this field in our thread starter to keep current debates up and new information.
Atm.


2024/2025

Here are the official announcements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k82RwXqZHY8&t=1496s
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/
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Varous information about the new 5000 series.
https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidia-unveils-new-geforce-rtx-5090-rtx-5080-rtx-5070-ti-and-rtx-5070-graphics-cards-at-ces-2025


We have started to see more information about the new Nvidia Blackwell GPU´s (5000´s series)

Here is a leak, not very interesting tbh.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5000-specs-boring-leak
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-blackwell/



2023

We debate the 4000 series released and the ones that will release, a long with the rumours about the 5000 series, that is showcased to be the biggest leap in GPU history performance wise (like everytime ofc)

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/amp/


2021

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-increase-efficiency-of-chips-thirtyfold-by-2025
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-shows-off-geforce-rtx-with-noctua-cooler
https://winfuture.de/news,125475.html



So I figured we should have a thread about the new RTX 3xxx series, that is soon to release.
What is your feeling about it? Do you think some of the rumours are true? Are you upgrading?


The flagship seems to be a 3090 (I like them going back to the x90 tier)
https://videocardz.com/newz/micron-confirms-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gets-21gbps-gddr6x-memory

Personally I will not upgrade yet and even if I had to (I do not) I would still wait for prices to go down, early adoption is expenssive and often not worth it. But I am interested about what rumours might be true.

Some of the earlier rumours have suggested even higher GB numbers (from 16 and up) and performance claims have been all from 10-50% in effective speed and up to 60% in ray tracing inprovement.


I think it will be a 10-15% max in effective speed on each tier, but I do think we will see significant increases in the Ray Tracing spectrum.


Other sources (remember to take sources and numbers with a grain of salt)
https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-rtx-3000-launch-details-leak-and-amd-could-be-in-big-trouble
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69629/nvidia-ampere-gpu-50-faster-turing-half-power/index.html
https://www.gpumag.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3000-series/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3080-rumors-news-release-date-performance/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/10/nvidia-ampere-rtx-3000-everything-we-know-so-far/
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-card-pictured
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-allegedly-cancels-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-and-rtx-3070-16gb
Pricing
https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark
https://www.neowin.net/news/alleged-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-launch-dates-have-leaked/

AMD - Big Navi

It will be interesting to see what AMD brings to the table. Personally I think they will go for the mid tier market and if they succeed then, we might see battles for the top tier next generation.

Rumours

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-navi-21-xt-graphics-card-specs-leak/
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-navi-21-xt-xl-leak-suggests-an-over-2-0ghz-boost-clock/
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-amds-navi-21-gpu-has-255-watts-tgp-and-boost-up-to-2-4-ghz.html
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-21-xt-to-feature-2-3-2-4-ghz-game-clock-250w-tgp-and-16-gb-gddr6-memory
https://www.igorslab.de/en/3dmark-in-ultra-hd-benchmarks-the-rx-6800xt-without-and-with-raytracing/
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-alleged-3dmark-scores-hit-the-web
https://wccftech.com/intel-first-high-end-xe-hpg-dg2-gaming-graphics-pictured-rumored-specs-performance-rtx-3080-performance/amp/


Interesting stats about Big Navi

It seems like all will ship with atleast 16 GB, if that is true, that is surprising tbh.
Rumours talk about 2.4GHz clock on the Navi 21 XT. I think it will be pretty exciting to watch. We will know more in a week, once it gets revealed.


It seems that Nvidia is releasing a new series for miners and are changing the 3060, that will release on 25 of feb. Links below.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-cmp-mining-cards-rtx-3060-half-hash-rate/
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-availability-crypto-mining-cmp-gpu
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/cmp/

Various Rumours about hardware

https://videocardz.com/newz/bitmain-antminer-e9-ethereum-asic-is-as-powerful-as-32-geforce-rtx-3080-graphics-cards
https://wccftech.com/mainstream-ddr5-memory-modules-pictured-rolling-out-for-mass-production/amp/



Do you want to show off your new build or even just your old build. Then you can do so at
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/5413843407449992305/

That is our benchmark thread. You are still free to debate hardware related stuff and new builds here ofc.

[Rod]

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However, there is a lot of confirmed information that TSMC is at a production limit and companies like Apple, Nvidia, AMD can't make more - they can only change what exactly is produced.

I looked up TSMC and that does in fact seem to be at least part of the issue. TSMC was supposed to build a fab in Arizona but has delayed this quite a bit, citing building costs and "lack of adequate personnel." It may not be operational now until past the beg. of 2025, if at all.

Getting workers is major problem. Indeed you face now intel poaching workers for thier own fabs. I think the shortages are just the fact some ad102 have went for the 4080 super possibly.

[r.linder]

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I looked up TSMC and that does in fact seem to be at least part of the issue. TSMC was supposed to build a fab in Arizona but has delayed this quite a bit, citing building costs and "lack of adequate personnel." It may not be operational now until past the beg. of 2025, if at all.

Getting workers is major problem. Indeed you face now intel poaching workers for thier own fabs. I think the shortages are just the fact some ad102 have went for the 4080 super possibly.

It's especially difficult to get workers for these kinds of places in the United States for various reasons. Back in 2017, a massive Foxconn facility was being built that would bring thousands of jobs to Wisconsin, but it was never fully finished, and one of the major factors was that they couldn't get enough people employed. Most people in the States either aren't qualified for that kind of work, or aren't interested in it because you're working with a lot of hazardous materials. It's more dangerous than working at a nuclear power plant.

[Jamebonds1]

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Getting workers is major problem. Indeed you face now intel poaching workers for thier own fabs. I think the shortages are just the fact some ad102 have went for the 4080 super possibly.

It's especially difficult to get workers for these kinds of places in the United States for various reasons. Back in 2017, a massive Foxconn facility was being built that would bring thousands of jobs to Wisconsin, but it was never fully finished, and one of the major factors was that they couldn't get enough people employed. Most people in the States either aren't qualified for that kind of work, or aren't interested in it because you're working with a lot of hazardous materials. It's more dangerous than working at a nuclear power plant.

As former assembler, it is not true. It is actual safer than at a nuclear power plant as long as people were trained properly. However, the only reason that it is more dangerous than working at a nuclear power plant is attempting to make everything more safer and more safer.

[Rod]

Btw theres been weird behavior recently thats disturbing and as usual anti gamer. The 4090 is the potential replacement for my 2080ti but im holding out for the full fat die g103. But i keep on eye on the RTX 4090 prices on Google. They have been steady at £1517 now the founders got jacked up by 60 and many models vanished from stock. Theres been a general upwards increase of near £100 on a 1yr old card what gives?


Then today i seen that the 4090 will be banned on the 17th Nov in China. So either by VPN the Chinese gleamed the entire UK stock or Nvidia themselves did it as its been revealed Nvidia sent a big shipment to China before the deadline. Why jack the price up though yea to capitalize on the shortages and misery and i guess to also make the 4080 supers stupid price look decent.


AMD no where to be seen. What a stink... I hope the entire lineup is banned in china and like crypto it hurts them. We dont need 4090s etc inside potential state cctv or missiles or killer drones etc.

[Jamebonds1]

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Btw theres been weird behavior recently thats disturbing and as usual anti gamer. The 4090 is the potential replacement for my 2080ti but im holding out for the full fat die g103. But i keep on eye on the RTX 4090 prices on Google. They have been steady at £1517 now the founders got jacked up by 60 and many models vanished from stock. Theres been a general upwards increase of near £100 on a 1yr old card what gives?


Then today i seen that the 4090 will be banned on the 17th Nov in China. So either by VPN the Chinese gleamed the entire UK stock or Nvidia themselves did it as its been revealed Nvidia sent a big shipment to China before the deadline. Why jack the price up though yea to capitalize on the shortages and misery and i guess to also make the 4080 supers stupid price look decent.


AMD no where to be seen. What a stink... I hope the entire lineup is banned in china and like crypto it hurts them. We dont need 4090s etc inside potential state cctv or missiles or killer drones etc.

Those claim from discussion like reddit? If it is, it is usually just a rumor.

[Illusion of Progress]

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Theres been a general upwards increase of near £100 on a 1yr old card what gives?

I haven't followed the story too closely but I've noticed a few articles on the subject of pricing/availability on the RTX 4090 over the last many weeks so I'll link them.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-40-gpu-shortages-observed-in-tokyos-electric-town

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-4090-prices-have-been-creeping-upward

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-prices-for-rtx-4090-cards-double-a-month-before-us-sanctions-bite

[Crawl]

Probably all the 7900XTX owners buying 4090s after trying to play Alan Wake 2 with path tracing on.

[Rod]

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Btw theres been weird behavior recently thats disturbing and as usual anti gamer. The 4090 is the potential replacement for my 2080ti but im holding out for the full fat die g103. But i keep on eye on the RTX 4090 prices on Google. They have been steady at £1517 now the founders got jacked up by 60 and many models vanished from stock. Theres been a general upwards increase of near £100 on a 1yr old card what gives?


Then today i seen that the 4090 will be banned on the 17th Nov in China. So either by VPN the Chinese gleamed the entire UK stock or Nvidia themselves did it as its been revealed Nvidia sent a big shipment to China before the deadline. Why jack the price up though yea to capitalize on the shortages and misery and i guess to also make the 4080 supers stupid price look decent.


AMD no where to be seen. What a stink... I hope the entire lineup is banned in china and like crypto it hurts them. We dont need 4090s etc inside potential state cctv or missiles or killer drones etc.

Those claim from discussion like reddit? If it is, it is usually just a rumor.

From google, Type in 4090 china ban. 17th nov 2023.

[JohnMars78]

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Probably all the 7900XTX owners buying 4090s after trying to play Alan Wake 2 with path tracing on.

You hold your breath till that happens...

[Crawl]

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Probably all the 7900XTX owners buying 4090s after trying to play Alan Wake 2 with path tracing on.

You hold your breath till that happens...

It was a joke. Lighten up Francis.

[Jamebonds1]

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Those claim from discussion like reddit? If it is, it is usually just a rumor.

From google, Type in 4090 china ban. 17th nov 2023.

Yeah, I'm not doing that, because there are no sources to proof that RTX 4090s has been banned China.

[r.linder]

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From google, Type in 4090 china ban. 17th nov 2023.

Yeah, I'm not doing that, because there are no sources to proof that RTX 4090s has been banned China.

Bloomberg[www.bloomberg.com]

NBC[www.nbcnews.com]

Dexerto[www.dexerto.com]

Yahoo Finance [uk.finance.yahoo.com]

It's real, official outlets already reported on it. The US imposed more sanctions on China which involves the restrictions on exporting certain products to China, which includes NVIDIA GPUs like the H series and the RTX 4090.

[Jamebonds1]

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Yeah, I'm not doing that, because there are no sources to proof that RTX 4090s has been banned China.

Bloomberg[www.bloomberg.com]

NBC[www.nbcnews.com]

Dexerto[www.dexerto.com]

Yahoo Finance [uk.finance.yahoo.com]

It's real, official outlets already reported on it. The US imposed more sanctions on China which involves the ban on exporting certain products to China, which includes NVIDIA GPUs like the H series and the RTX 4090.

I'm not reading those due to known unreliable news.

[Jamebonds1]

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I'm not reading those due to known unreliable news.

Added to ignore for self sanity.

Please do; however, it is still just a rumor. I found sources that RTX 4090 is not banned in China.

[Rod]

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Yeah, I'm not doing that, because there are no sources to proof that RTX 4090s has been banned China.

Bloomberg[www.bloomberg.com]

NBC[www.nbcnews.com]

Dexerto[www.dexerto.com]

Yahoo Finance [uk.finance.yahoo.com]

It's real, official outlets already reported on it. The US imposed more sanctions on China which involves the ban on exporting certain products to China, which includes NVIDIA GPUs like the H series and the RTX 4090.

Tomshardware covering it. All G102 banned 2 weeks after the initial h100 etc ban. I would not be surprised if all 4090 dissapear in the next week to china. It suits Nvidia to get ready for 4090 Super.


It will ofc happen, G102 fullfat 18000 cuda cores is the super ofc.