AdahnGorion 16 Αυγ 2020, 2:56
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The big GPU/Tech Rumours thread - Nvidia/AMD/Others - Is it worth to invest now? what news are here now? Feel free to debate
This thread has evolved a alot and has now become a New Runours on tech thread - It is primarily focused on GPU´s and it should stay that way. I will update the thread, whenever we have new information about newer GPU´s releasing. Feel free to debate some of the more catchy tech rumours as well.

I have reserved this field in our thread starter to keep current debates up and new information.
Atm.


2024/2025

Here are the official announcements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k82RwXqZHY8&t=1496s
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/
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Varous information about the new 5000 series.
https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidia-unveils-new-geforce-rtx-5090-rtx-5080-rtx-5070-ti-and-rtx-5070-graphics-cards-at-ces-2025


We have started to see more information about the new Nvidia Blackwell GPU´s (5000´s series)

Here is a leak, not very interesting tbh.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5000-specs-boring-leak
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-blackwell/



2023

We debate the 4000 series released and the ones that will release, a long with the rumours about the 5000 series, that is showcased to be the biggest leap in GPU history performance wise (like everytime ofc)

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/amp/


2021

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-increase-efficiency-of-chips-thirtyfold-by-2025
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-shows-off-geforce-rtx-with-noctua-cooler
https://winfuture.de/news,125475.html



So I figured we should have a thread about the new RTX 3xxx series, that is soon to release.
What is your feeling about it? Do you think some of the rumours are true? Are you upgrading?


The flagship seems to be a 3090 (I like them going back to the x90 tier)
https://videocardz.com/newz/micron-confirms-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gets-21gbps-gddr6x-memory

Personally I will not upgrade yet and even if I had to (I do not) I would still wait for prices to go down, early adoption is expenssive and often not worth it. But I am interested about what rumours might be true.

Some of the earlier rumours have suggested even higher GB numbers (from 16 and up) and performance claims have been all from 10-50% in effective speed and up to 60% in ray tracing inprovement.


I think it will be a 10-15% max in effective speed on each tier, but I do think we will see significant increases in the Ray Tracing spectrum.


Other sources (remember to take sources and numbers with a grain of salt)
https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-rtx-3000-launch-details-leak-and-amd-could-be-in-big-trouble
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69629/nvidia-ampere-gpu-50-faster-turing-half-power/index.html
https://www.gpumag.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3000-series/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3080-rumors-news-release-date-performance/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/10/nvidia-ampere-rtx-3000-everything-we-know-so-far/
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-card-pictured
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-allegedly-cancels-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-and-rtx-3070-16gb
Pricing
https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark
https://www.neowin.net/news/alleged-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-launch-dates-have-leaked/

AMD - Big Navi

It will be interesting to see what AMD brings to the table. Personally I think they will go for the mid tier market and if they succeed then, we might see battles for the top tier next generation.

Rumours

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-navi-21-xt-graphics-card-specs-leak/
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-navi-21-xt-xl-leak-suggests-an-over-2-0ghz-boost-clock/
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-amds-navi-21-gpu-has-255-watts-tgp-and-boost-up-to-2-4-ghz.html
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-21-xt-to-feature-2-3-2-4-ghz-game-clock-250w-tgp-and-16-gb-gddr6-memory
https://www.igorslab.de/en/3dmark-in-ultra-hd-benchmarks-the-rx-6800xt-without-and-with-raytracing/
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-alleged-3dmark-scores-hit-the-web
https://wccftech.com/intel-first-high-end-xe-hpg-dg2-gaming-graphics-pictured-rumored-specs-performance-rtx-3080-performance/amp/


Interesting stats about Big Navi

It seems like all will ship with atleast 16 GB, if that is true, that is surprising tbh.
Rumours talk about 2.4GHz clock on the Navi 21 XT. I think it will be pretty exciting to watch. We will know more in a week, once it gets revealed.


It seems that Nvidia is releasing a new series for miners and are changing the 3060, that will release on 25 of feb. Links below.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-cmp-mining-cards-rtx-3060-half-hash-rate/
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-availability-crypto-mining-cmp-gpu
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/cmp/

Various Rumours about hardware

https://videocardz.com/newz/bitmain-antminer-e9-ethereum-asic-is-as-powerful-as-32-geforce-rtx-3080-graphics-cards
https://wccftech.com/mainstream-ddr5-memory-modules-pictured-rolling-out-for-mass-production/amp/



Do you want to show off your new build or even just your old build. Then you can do so at
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/5413843407449992305/

That is our benchmark thread. You are still free to debate hardware related stuff and new builds here ofc.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από AdahnGorion; 8 Ιαν, 0:36
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Haha, so wait, you're trading down settings for performance now after your GPU upgrade, but you were unwilling to do that with your GTX 970 before? I love you Shredder, it seems like you learned.

Also, if you follow through with this, post the video of Shredder beating up Shredder. I'd like to see that.
I will post videos of me beating the turtles. And also videos of Krang ,Foot Ninjas Rocksteady and Bebop and you will see us beating the turtles and killing them! I will post on the forum of my new game TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES SHREDDER REVENGE.
Seemingly old thread, but in terms of GPU and hardware, I was going to upgrade my GPU last year, but with scalping, I decided I could squeeze a couple more out of my RX590 and I am glad I made the decision to do so. It would seem the successor won't be an RX690 or anything of that nature because it would seem AMD is going to be phasing out their mid-level GPUs and integrate them into higher performing APUs.

Basically, next gen I should be able to get better than RX590 performance out of a new APU probably more closer related to the ones used in next gen consoles for a lot less when combined with the CPU. That will bring the costs down for an upgrade considerably, plus it falls in line with my goals for my next PC build, and that is to go as compact as possible without sacrificing performance. A tiny mini-ITX board, a much higher performing APU than the low-end models out now, an AIO liquid cooler and I could probably build a fully functional gaming PC with a foot print no larger than the Xbox Series S.

In the mean time, if I feel I need more performance out of my second gen Ryzen 5 and RX590, I haven't even dove into overclocking yet. My motherboard makes it easy to do so, and with five 140mm fans and one 200mm fan, I certainly have the airflow to handle it.
Just read that NVIDIA was hit by a cyber attack that took most of it offline for "two days."

Just two online sources are reporting this at the moment plus one is a paywall and I personally am unsure if this is fake news or not (yet).

Will definitely follow this, esp. considering the tragic events in Middle Europe going on right now.

Edit and update: is receiving more widespread reporting now. Some sources say it's a ransomware attack but not connected to the current events involving Ukraine. Here's one of the more credible sources. Very disturbing regardless of origin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/nvidia-confirms-it-e2-80-99s-investigating-an-e2-80-98incident-e2-80-99-reportedly-a-cyberattack/ar-AAUjQFb

Despite the reports to the contrary, you wonder if NV was targeted and whether this would be only the first time. I guess we'll see.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από plat; 25 Φεβ 2022, 16:06
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Just read that NVIDIA was hit by a cyber attack that took most of it offline for "two days."

Just two online sources are reporting this at the moment plus one is a paywall and I personally am unsure if this is fake news or not (yet).

Will definitely follow this, esp. considering the tragic events in Middle Europe going on right now.

Edit and update: is receiving more widespread reporting now. Some sources say it's a ransomware attack but not connected to the current events involving Ukraine. Here's one of the more credible sources. Very disturbing regardless of origin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/nvidia-confirms-it-e2-80-99s-investigating-an-e2-80-98incident-e2-80-99-reportedly-a-cyberattack/ar-AAUjQFb

Despite the reports to the contrary, you wonder if NV was targeted and whether this would be only the first time. I guess we'll see.

Might be related to Eastern Europe (it is not central) but might just be other things.
But yes, if this escalates, then we will see even more issues in the hardware segments, obviously. Hopefully we all return to more peaceful times soon.

I will soon come with more news as well, regarding more hardware specific issues.
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από plat:
Just read that NVIDIA was hit by a cyber attack that took most of it offline for "two days."

Just two online sources are reporting this at the moment plus one is a paywall and I personally am unsure if this is fake news or not (yet).

Will definitely follow this, esp. considering the tragic events in Middle Europe going on right now.

Edit and update: is receiving more widespread reporting now. Some sources say it's a ransomware attack but not connected to the current events involving Ukraine. Here's one of the more credible sources. Very disturbing regardless of origin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/nvidia-confirms-it-e2-80-99s-investigating-an-e2-80-98incident-e2-80-99-reportedly-a-cyberattack/ar-AAUjQFb

Despite the reports to the contrary, you wonder if NV was targeted and whether this would be only the first time. I guess we'll see.
What's creepy is the speculation that Nvidia hacked them back. Corporations hacking people is bound to encourage further hacking.

Fight fire with fire :FireStrike:
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Darkie:
Fight fire with fire :FireStrike:
By breaking the law? It just tells me that US corporations act like rogue mercenaries with nobody to answer to. Not the greatest repellent to discourage any anarchistic would be hacker.

Well obviously.
My point was, that most likely that was their perspective on the matter.

Here are a few more sources on the attack
https://www.reuters.com/technology/chipmaker-nvidia-investigating-potential-cyberattack-report-2022-02-25/
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-cyber-attack-internal

On other news, the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine, might affect the Chip and SSD prices due to the gas used.
https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/ukraine-war-flashes-neon-warning-lights-chips-2022-02-24/
Yes, I am wondering how this war (and I see the Ukraine/Russia conflict as such) will impact chip production.

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What's creepy is the speculation that Nvidia hacked them back. Corporations hacking people is bound to encourage further hacking.

Thanks for this tidbit of news! I read reportedly, the hackers made off with 1 Terabyte of highly classified NV material. Here is some additional info that I originally read on the Bleeping Computer site, posted by a rep of Emsisoft anti-malware in its comments section:

Again, not sure if this TPU article has legit or fake info so take with a grain of salt but it's interesting and relevant anyway

https://www.techpowerup.com/292375/nvidia-has-allegedly-been-hacked-internal-systems-compromised

You wonder what exactly what stolen. I kinda support NV's stand on it. I mean, if someone breaks into your house and steals something of extreme value to you, you would shoot if you could right? Vigilante justice.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mind:
I guess if you got the money and corporate power then you're above the law. And no, I wouldn't shoot somebody just for stealing something from me.

Yes, understood. One can say one thing within the safety of one's living room but if put into a dangerous position, do something totally different (like run for the hills). :steamhappy:

I hope it's OK to post more on the NV hack--seeing as it has the mining angle in it. Now this is Ransom with a capital R, imo.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-to-nvidia-remove-mining-cap-or-we-leak-hardware-data/
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mind:
I guess if you got the money and corporate power then you're above the law. And no, I wouldn't shoot somebody just for stealing something from me.

Yes, understood. One can say one thing within the safety of one's living room but if put into a dangerous position, do something totally different (like run for the hills). :steamhappy:

I hope it's OK to post more on the NV hack--seeing as it has the mining angle in it. Now this is Ransom with a capital R, imo.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-to-nvidia-remove-mining-cap-or-we-leak-hardware-data/

I would say it is relevant in terms of the threads umbrella of topics, as it does affect hardware situations and such.
Just read about this interesting development somewhere else (thanks, Ven!). Looks like ray tracing is on the "path" to obsolescence already. This won't be mainstream for another *few* years, though, acc. to the articles on "path tracing."

https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-real-time-path-tracing-gtc-2022
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από plat:
Just read about this interesting development somewhere else (thanks, Ven!). Looks like ray tracing is on the "path" to obsolescence already. This won't be mainstream for another *few* years, though, acc. to the articles on "path tracing."

https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-real-time-path-tracing-gtc-2022
ah..your one of those "rumor spreaders"...lol
you would have been much more effective if you just spread "ray tracing is dead"
rookie !!!
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Guydodge:
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ah..your one of those "rumor spreaders"...lol

Yes, yes I am. :steamthumbsup:

Wasn't there a big debate some time ago about "future-proofing?" Guess that term can only apply to just a couple of years. All those owners of hard-won rtx 3070-3090 Ti--enjoy! RX owners too.
Rtx is now worth right now because 2nd gen has still very low power. This might change in 2-3 gens and then it might be a great feature.

More important is power consumption. I am not mad about my 520w 3090 and still think its fine but the new 3090ti with 2x 16pin which delivers up to 1200w is insane. I live in germany and our power bill is already very high. You think a 3090 is expensive with 2k? Power will cost more if you play a lot:/
Aha, many around here were very suspicious and it looks like your suspicions were on the money. NV, you got some 'splaining to do, or nvm, just pay up.

https://twitter.com/BleepinComputer/status/1522584687562141700
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από plat:
Aha, many around here were very suspicious and it looks like your suspicions were on the money. NV, you got some 'splaining to do, or nvm, just pay up.

https://twitter.com/BleepinComputer/status/1522584687562141700

Wow! 5.5 million in fines that'll discourage them from those types of practices in the future. :)
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