The big GPU/Tech Rumours thread - Nvidia/AMD/Others - Is it worth to invest now? what news are here now? Feel free to debate

[AdahnGorion]

This thread has evolved a alot and has now become a New Runours on tech thread - It is primarily focused on GPU´s and it should stay that way. I will update the thread, whenever we have new information about newer GPU´s releasing. Feel free to debate some of the more catchy tech rumours as well.

I have reserved this field in our thread starter to keep current debates up and new information.
Atm.


2024/2025

Here are the official announcements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k82RwXqZHY8&t=1496s
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/
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Varous information about the new 5000 series.
https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidia-unveils-new-geforce-rtx-5090-rtx-5080-rtx-5070-ti-and-rtx-5070-graphics-cards-at-ces-2025


We have started to see more information about the new Nvidia Blackwell GPU´s (5000´s series)

Here is a leak, not very interesting tbh.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5000-specs-boring-leak
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-blackwell/



2023

We debate the 4000 series released and the ones that will release, a long with the rumours about the 5000 series, that is showcased to be the biggest leap in GPU history performance wise (like everytime ofc)

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/amp/


2021

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-increase-efficiency-of-chips-thirtyfold-by-2025
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-shows-off-geforce-rtx-with-noctua-cooler
https://winfuture.de/news,125475.html



So I figured we should have a thread about the new RTX 3xxx series, that is soon to release.
What is your feeling about it? Do you think some of the rumours are true? Are you upgrading?


The flagship seems to be a 3090 (I like them going back to the x90 tier)
https://videocardz.com/newz/micron-confirms-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gets-21gbps-gddr6x-memory

Personally I will not upgrade yet and even if I had to (I do not) I would still wait for prices to go down, early adoption is expenssive and often not worth it. But I am interested about what rumours might be true.

Some of the earlier rumours have suggested even higher GB numbers (from 16 and up) and performance claims have been all from 10-50% in effective speed and up to 60% in ray tracing inprovement.


I think it will be a 10-15% max in effective speed on each tier, but I do think we will see significant increases in the Ray Tracing spectrum.


Other sources (remember to take sources and numbers with a grain of salt)
https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-rtx-3000-launch-details-leak-and-amd-could-be-in-big-trouble
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69629/nvidia-ampere-gpu-50-faster-turing-half-power/index.html
https://www.gpumag.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3000-series/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3080-rumors-news-release-date-performance/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/10/nvidia-ampere-rtx-3000-everything-we-know-so-far/
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-card-pictured
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-allegedly-cancels-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-and-rtx-3070-16gb
Pricing
https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark
https://www.neowin.net/news/alleged-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-launch-dates-have-leaked/

AMD - Big Navi

It will be interesting to see what AMD brings to the table. Personally I think they will go for the mid tier market and if they succeed then, we might see battles for the top tier next generation.

Rumours

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-navi-21-xt-graphics-card-specs-leak/
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-navi-21-xt-xl-leak-suggests-an-over-2-0ghz-boost-clock/
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-amds-navi-21-gpu-has-255-watts-tgp-and-boost-up-to-2-4-ghz.html
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-21-xt-to-feature-2-3-2-4-ghz-game-clock-250w-tgp-and-16-gb-gddr6-memory
https://www.igorslab.de/en/3dmark-in-ultra-hd-benchmarks-the-rx-6800xt-without-and-with-raytracing/
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-alleged-3dmark-scores-hit-the-web
https://wccftech.com/intel-first-high-end-xe-hpg-dg2-gaming-graphics-pictured-rumored-specs-performance-rtx-3080-performance/amp/


Interesting stats about Big Navi

It seems like all will ship with atleast 16 GB, if that is true, that is surprising tbh.
Rumours talk about 2.4GHz clock on the Navi 21 XT. I think it will be pretty exciting to watch. We will know more in a week, once it gets revealed.


It seems that Nvidia is releasing a new series for miners and are changing the 3060, that will release on 25 of feb. Links below.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-cmp-mining-cards-rtx-3060-half-hash-rate/
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-availability-crypto-mining-cmp-gpu
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/cmp/

Various Rumours about hardware

https://videocardz.com/newz/bitmain-antminer-e9-ethereum-asic-is-as-powerful-as-32-geforce-rtx-3080-graphics-cards
https://wccftech.com/mainstream-ddr5-memory-modules-pictured-rolling-out-for-mass-production/amp/



Do you want to show off your new build or even just your old build. Then you can do so at
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/5413843407449992305/

That is our benchmark thread. You are still free to debate hardware related stuff and new builds here ofc.

[plat]

Just read this article and it's a pessimistic one. Basically, it states the chip supply or lack thereof will go one for years, not quarters. Now it's projected to ease in 2023 sometime. Already vaguely felt that anyway,

I feel like I'm going to cave pretty soon into buying a new gpu at the inflated prices. Anyone else fighting the urge right now to over-spend? Yes, my current 1080 is still OK. But it's so tempting and EVGA isn't responding (been in the queue for almost 7 months now).

This can be my therapy thread for gaming people who are having a hard time resisting.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/no-end-in-sight-for-chip-shortage-as-supply-chain-problems-pile-up/

[SHREDDER]

This is very bad if true. I hope it is not. Because that will mean that when it took one year since RTX 3000 release on september 2020 until i saw t a RTX 3070 on a shppthat avalaibiltiy wil be as low with RTX 4000.... And just a few days ago i talked with someone on my friends list here on steam and he told me that he also has GTX 970 and he wanted to get 3070 or 3070 TI this year but he diecided to not do it due to low supply and very hgih prices . And that instead of a new graphics card he got a 144 hz 1440p monitor. And he will get 4070 when it releases in 2022 if there is avalaibiltity and normal prices. But if thsi is true.... Even other things are now on shortage. Cars for example. it is not just graphics card.

[Monk]

It's almost as if we have been telling you this for an entire year.

A world wide chip shortage means it has affected everything.

I wouldn't expect to see the 40 series until 2023 at the earliest, likely q3/4 at that.

[Zireth]

there's also a shortage on magnesium which is commonly used to make a metal alloy with aluminum. This might effect coolers, vehicles, etc. that rely on that metal alloy. Don't expect any new GPU's CPU coolers, cars, etc and it'd be genuinely stupid for Nvidia to release the 40 series especially with all the supply issues as of now.

[Andrius227]

Escrito originalmente por Ren:

there's also a shortage on magnesium which is commonly used to make a metal alloy with aluminum. This might effect coolers, vehicles, etc. that rely on that metal alloy. Don't expect any new GPU's CPU coolers, cars, etc and it'd be genuinely stupid for Nvidia to release the 40 series especially with all the supply issues as of now.

They could... Instead of producing small amounts of rtx3000 gpus, they could produce small amounts of rtx4000 gpus...

[Monk]

Yes and burn the billions on development they haven't recouped yet, makes total sense from a business perspective.

[carl]

Escrito originalmente por plat:

Just read this article and it's a pessimistic one. Basically, it states the chip supply or lack thereof will go one for years, not quarters. Now it's projected to ease in 2023 sometime. Already vaguely felt that anyway,

I feel like I'm going to cave pretty soon into buying a new gpu at the inflated prices. Anyone else fighting the urge right now to over-spend? Yes, my current 1080 is still OK. But it's so tempting and EVGA isn't responding (been in the queue for almost 7 months now).

This can be my therapy thread for gaming people who are having a hard time resisting.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/no-end-in-sight-for-chip-shortage-as-supply-chain-problems-pile-up/

Same here I have been on the EVGA queue since January for various cards including a 3060 and 3060 Ti. I'd like to say I've been keeping my powder dry but being a bit of a tinkerer I've been spending money on making arguable upgrades to the rest of my PC platforms e.g. CPU, motherboard, cases, quality of life peripherals etc.

Currently investigating water cooling though that seems to be an all or nothing approach for the highest end PCs only.

[Illusion of Progress]

Escrito originalmente por plat:

Just read this article and it's a pessimistic one. Basically, it states the chip supply or lack thereof will go one for years, not quarters. Now it's projected to ease in 2023 sometime. Already vaguely felt that anyway,

I feel like I'm going to cave pretty soon into buying a new gpu at the inflated prices. Anyone else fighting the urge right now to over-spend? Yes, my current 1080 is still OK. But it's so tempting and EVGA isn't responding (been in the queue for almost 7 months now).

This can be my therapy thread for gaming people who are having a hard time resisting.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/no-end-in-sight-for-chip-shortage-as-supply-chain-problems-pile-up/

Pretty much the status quo at this point. I'm already expecting my GPU upgrade to be no sooner than 2023.

It's not even just GPUs that are getting more expensive (look at Zen 3 and now Alder Lake increasing prices). I'm hoping that once (at this point, if...) Etherium demand drops, prices on GPUs will at least be better. I already know the days of old are long gone but it'd be nice if they were more in line with other things with shortages and not this double to triple marked up pricing ON TOP of those raised MSRPs.

It's funny how this has conditioned us to look at raised MSRPs as not only acceptable but good. I'm probably the biggest proponent of calling them out around here, and if an RTX 4060 came around with a good performance for price combination ("value") but even had a MSRP close to what the RTX 3060 Ti does, which is still a huge mark up compared to the $250 or less days of this tier from before, I'd probably leap at it now. But a huge part (the low and mid part even) of the market has "fallen back" and I expect a further shift towards the percentage of games that don't call for high end hardware.

[SHREDDER]

Will the shortage of magnesium cause even more shortages on graphics and card and higher prices than what we have now?

[plat]

Yes, I didn't know about the magnesium shortage either. Like they said, issues are piling up, one thing after another.

That's why it's getting harder to resist temptation, at least for me. You never know when the opportunity to get a card is going to come back your way.

[SHREDDER]

Yes i only read it here for the first time. Did the magnesium shortage started this week?

[r.linder]

The corporation I work for is part of the automotive industry chain, since we're a coater that does both electrocoating (i.e. zircobond) and electrostatic powder coats for vehicle parts, and our major issue with what we're working with isn't supply, but rather that we don't have the people to get everything done fast enough. Our major customers are pretty much over the hill when it comes to chip shortages and they're really ramping up, just recently we were behind on about half a thousand skids, which is more than a several thousand vehicles worth of parts.

Similar issues with other industries because people are sitting on their asses instead of getting back to work because the media's either got them too spooked to go outside, or they're collecting decent money from the government and would rather do that then actually work for a good living. There are plenty of jobs out there (at least in Ontario) but hardly anyone is taking them. People are being lazy and it's hurting the whole economy even more.

[SHREDDER]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-26/magnesium-crisis-shows-signs-of-easing-as-china-ramps-up-output here it says the opposite that it is not in shortage. i just read it.

[DeadBeat]

Why work when you can get government handouts? It's much easier to pacify a population when they become dependent rather than independent.

[Monk]

Escrito originalmente por carl:

Escrito originalmente por plat:

Just read this article and it's a pessimistic one. Basically, it states the chip supply or lack thereof will go one for years, not quarters. Now it's projected to ease in 2023 sometime. Already vaguely felt that anyway,

I feel like I'm going to cave pretty soon into buying a new gpu at the inflated prices. Anyone else fighting the urge right now to over-spend? Yes, my current 1080 is still OK. But it's so tempting and EVGA isn't responding (been in the queue for almost 7 months now).

This can be my therapy thread for gaming people who are having a hard time resisting.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/no-end-in-sight-for-chip-shortage-as-supply-chain-problems-pile-up/

Same here I have been on the EVGA queue since January for various cards including a 3060 and 3060 Ti. I'd like to say I've been keeping my powder dry but being a bit of a tinkerer I've been spending money on making arguable upgrades to the rest of my PC platforms e.g. CPU, motherboard, cases, quality of life peripherals etc.

Currently investigating water cooling though that seems to be an all or nothing approach for the highest end PCs only.

If you are seriously looking at a custom loop, look towards bykski and Barrow parts to massively drop the cost down over ek/heatkiller/corsair etc.