AdahnGorion 2020 年 8 月 16 日 上午 2:56
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The big GPU/Tech Rumours thread - Nvidia/AMD/Others - Is it worth to invest now? what news are here now? Feel free to debate
This thread has evolved a alot and has now become a New Runours on tech thread - It is primarily focused on GPU´s and it should stay that way. I will update the thread, whenever we have new information about newer GPU´s releasing. Feel free to debate some of the more catchy tech rumours as well.

I have reserved this field in our thread starter to keep current debates up and new information.
Atm.


2024/2025

Here are the official announcements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k82RwXqZHY8&t=1496s
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/
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Varous information about the new 5000 series.
https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidia-unveils-new-geforce-rtx-5090-rtx-5080-rtx-5070-ti-and-rtx-5070-graphics-cards-at-ces-2025


We have started to see more information about the new Nvidia Blackwell GPU´s (5000´s series)

Here is a leak, not very interesting tbh.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5000-specs-boring-leak
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-blackwell/



2023

We debate the 4000 series released and the ones that will release, a long with the rumours about the 5000 series, that is showcased to be the biggest leap in GPU history performance wise (like everytime ofc)

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/amp/


2021

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-increase-efficiency-of-chips-thirtyfold-by-2025
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-shows-off-geforce-rtx-with-noctua-cooler
https://winfuture.de/news,125475.html



So I figured we should have a thread about the new RTX 3xxx series, that is soon to release.
What is your feeling about it? Do you think some of the rumours are true? Are you upgrading?


The flagship seems to be a 3090 (I like them going back to the x90 tier)
https://videocardz.com/newz/micron-confirms-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gets-21gbps-gddr6x-memory

Personally I will not upgrade yet and even if I had to (I do not) I would still wait for prices to go down, early adoption is expenssive and often not worth it. But I am interested about what rumours might be true.

Some of the earlier rumours have suggested even higher GB numbers (from 16 and up) and performance claims have been all from 10-50% in effective speed and up to 60% in ray tracing inprovement.


I think it will be a 10-15% max in effective speed on each tier, but I do think we will see significant increases in the Ray Tracing spectrum.


Other sources (remember to take sources and numbers with a grain of salt)
https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-rtx-3000-launch-details-leak-and-amd-could-be-in-big-trouble
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69629/nvidia-ampere-gpu-50-faster-turing-half-power/index.html
https://www.gpumag.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3000-series/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3080-rumors-news-release-date-performance/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/10/nvidia-ampere-rtx-3000-everything-we-know-so-far/
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-card-pictured
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-allegedly-cancels-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-and-rtx-3070-16gb
Pricing
https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark
https://www.neowin.net/news/alleged-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-launch-dates-have-leaked/

AMD - Big Navi

It will be interesting to see what AMD brings to the table. Personally I think they will go for the mid tier market and if they succeed then, we might see battles for the top tier next generation.

Rumours

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-navi-21-xt-graphics-card-specs-leak/
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-navi-21-xt-xl-leak-suggests-an-over-2-0ghz-boost-clock/
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-amds-navi-21-gpu-has-255-watts-tgp-and-boost-up-to-2-4-ghz.html
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-21-xt-to-feature-2-3-2-4-ghz-game-clock-250w-tgp-and-16-gb-gddr6-memory
https://www.igorslab.de/en/3dmark-in-ultra-hd-benchmarks-the-rx-6800xt-without-and-with-raytracing/
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-alleged-3dmark-scores-hit-the-web
https://wccftech.com/intel-first-high-end-xe-hpg-dg2-gaming-graphics-pictured-rumored-specs-performance-rtx-3080-performance/amp/


Interesting stats about Big Navi

It seems like all will ship with atleast 16 GB, if that is true, that is surprising tbh.
Rumours talk about 2.4GHz clock on the Navi 21 XT. I think it will be pretty exciting to watch. We will know more in a week, once it gets revealed.


It seems that Nvidia is releasing a new series for miners and are changing the 3060, that will release on 25 of feb. Links below.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-cmp-mining-cards-rtx-3060-half-hash-rate/
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-availability-crypto-mining-cmp-gpu
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/cmp/

Various Rumours about hardware

https://videocardz.com/newz/bitmain-antminer-e9-ethereum-asic-is-as-powerful-as-32-geforce-rtx-3080-graphics-cards
https://wccftech.com/mainstream-ddr5-memory-modules-pictured-rolling-out-for-mass-production/amp/



Do you want to show off your new build or even just your old build. Then you can do so at
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/5413843407449992305/

That is our benchmark thread. You are still free to debate hardware related stuff and new builds here ofc.
最后由 AdahnGorion 编辑于; 1 月 8 日 上午 12:36
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Autumn_ 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 8:15 
引用自 SHREDDER
Today i decided that if i havent found a graphics card until November, then i will will order it again. I will order 6 cards at the same time(3070 ti 3080 3080 ti rx 6800 6800xt and 6900xt) and will get the one that will arrive first. The reason i tookf this decision is becuase on November it is my birthday so i decided that if ihavent found it until then then i will get it as a brithday present.
But by then the card will be one year old.....outdated design, new card release soon..... dont waste money....
GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™ 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 8:42 
Why hasn't SHREDDER entered the EVGA que yet? He would've gotten his graphic card by now. I received mine, all I had to do is wait.
Andrius227 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 8:45 
引用自 Hardware Hero™
Why hasn't SHREDDER entered the EVGA que yet? He would've gotten his graphic card by now. I received mine, all I had to do is wait.

Because that would make sense, thats why.
Grimy_RIck 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 10:53 
引用自 Hardware Hero™
Why hasn't SHREDDER entered the EVGA que yet? He would've gotten his graphic card by now. I received mine, all I had to do is wait.

How long was your wait ? my little bro just got in the que.
Monk 2021 年 7 月 2 日 上午 11:03 
Seems to be around 3-4 months from what I'm hearing now.

But, shredder refuses to order from outside of Greece and believes the shop employee who, for 9 months keeps telling him they will have stock next week.

Let us not forget, he 'cancelled' a pre order twice, because he didn't want to wait...
Zireth 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 12:15 
At least with the preorder he would've been guaranteed a card but if it makes sense shredder ain't taking part in it.

In the current market, if you're not patient, you're getting sod all while those who are patient get cards. Hell if you're very patient you can get EVGA cards at MSRP just for waiting.
最后由 Zireth 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 12:16
GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™ 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 12:30 
引用自 Grimy_RIck
How long was your wait ?
I got in line in January and just got it. There's supposed to be more stock coming of LHR models.
Monk 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:40 
Evga seems to only be producing LHR models now, I'm on a discord where lots of people have had every card in the range pretty much downgraded to low hash rate models in the queue in the past week.

Note, it's not helping supply, but you cannot earn much cash on it yourself :(
Andrius227 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 1:59 
引用自 Monk
Evga seems to only be producing LHR models now, I'm on a discord where lots of people have had every card in the range pretty much downgraded to low hash rate models in the queue in the past week.

Note, it's not helping supply, but you cannot earn much cash on it yourself :(

But it is helping supply. I mean, the supply is still quite low, but at least cards with LHR are not going to miners which means there are more cards for gamers. LHR doesnt affect gaming performance so who cares.
r.linder 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:03 
引用自 Andrius227
引用自 Monk
Evga seems to only be producing LHR models now, I'm on a discord where lots of people have had every card in the range pretty much downgraded to low hash rate models in the queue in the past week.

Note, it's not helping supply, but you cannot earn much cash on it yourself :(

But it is helping supply. I mean, the supply is still quite low, but at least cards with LHR are not going to miners which means there are more cards for gamers. LHR doesnt affect gaming performance so who cares.
It's not helping supply, it's just diverting supply. It doesn't solve the actual core problem, which is low silicon supply, high demand, and scalping. Mining is really just a scapegoat, very few miners have more than 2~4 GPUs. Just because you go on google and see a mining farm with dozens of GPUs, doesn't mean that it's all about miners vs gamers, because it's not.

Scalpers ultimately make the situation worse because they know they can turn a profit off of the desperate, and the actual manufacturers have a hand in it too because they also know that they can turn a bigger profit off of this. The fact that crypto boomed at the exact same time that Ampere was launching leads me to believe personally that it was entirely intentional that they coincided. NVIDIA and AMD both wanted this because silicon production is behind, and they want their profit margins to rise, which they got. They're basically reporting record level profits.
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Andrius227 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:10 
引用自 Escorve
引用自 Andrius227

But it is helping supply. I mean, the supply is still quite low, but at least cards with LHR are not going to miners which means there are more cards for gamers. LHR doesnt affect gaming performance so who cares.
It's not helping supply, it's just diverting supply. It doesn't solve the actual core problem, which is low silicon supply, high demand, and scalping. Mining is really just a scapegoat, very few miners have more than 2~4 GPUs.

Scalpers ultimately make the situation worse because they know they can turn a profit off of the desperate, and the actual manufacturers have a hand in it too because they also know that they can turn a bigger profit off of this. The fact that crypto boomed at the exact same time that Ampere was launching leads me to believe personally that it was entirely intentional that they coincided.
I guess that is true. But gamers are the ones who need the supply most, so diverting the supply from miners to gamers is a good thing. I mean, gpu's are meant for gaming and not mining, just because gpu's can mine doesnt change that.

And once gamers have enough gpu's, scalping will no longer be a problem.
Vince ✟ 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:13 
Is NVIDIA driving A.I development in the same regard as Google? If they are making enough advancements, I could see a reason for coincidence and question thereof. That's from a higher standpoint of greed than just making money though, and seems to be related more to the future decade of development and costs projections. I'm on medications though, so just ignore me. :BITRAY_Mistrust:
r.linder 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:16 
引用自 Andrius227
引用自 Escorve
It's not helping supply, it's just diverting supply. It doesn't solve the actual core problem, which is low silicon supply, high demand, and scalping. Mining is really just a scapegoat, very few miners have more than 2~4 GPUs.

Scalpers ultimately make the situation worse because they know they can turn a profit off of the desperate, and the actual manufacturers have a hand in it too because they also know that they can turn a bigger profit off of this. The fact that crypto boomed at the exact same time that Ampere was launching leads me to believe personally that it was entirely intentional that they coincided.
I guess that is true. But gamers are the ones who need the supply most, so diverting the supply from miners to gamers is a good thing. I mean, gpu's are meant for gaming and not mining, just because gpu's can mine doesnt change that.

And once gamers have enough gpu's, scalping will no longer be a problem.
That's a logic I can't agree with. Nobody needs a video card more than any other person, regardless of circumstances. It's just a product, nobody is entitled to it, so whoever gets it, gets it. We don't need gaming to survive, it's not even close to a necessity for anyone.

Video cards that are MARKETED for gaming doesn't mean it's actually specifically for that, they're only telling you what the processing capabilities are. They can do so much more than just render games.

Scalping will always be a problem when something is in very short supply but in high demand during times when people are in financial stress and don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about other people. As soon as Windows 11 was mentioned as requiring a TPM 2.0 module, those modules were immediately going out of stock and people were reselling them for a higher price. People are just scum when they want to be, it's not going to go away as long as there's a demand that can't be sated, so what's happening now, will only repeat itself time and time again until scalping is made a criminal offence.
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Andrius227 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:28 
引用自 Escorve
引用自 Andrius227
I guess that is true. But gamers are the ones who need the supply most, so diverting the supply from miners to gamers is a good thing. I mean, gpu's are meant for gaming and not mining, just because gpu's can mine doesnt change that.

And once gamers have enough gpu's, scalping will no longer be a problem.
That's a logic I can't agree with. Nobody needs a video card more than any other person, regardless of circumstances. It's just a product, nobody is entitled to it, so whoever gets it, gets it.

Video cards that are MARKETED for gaming doesn't mean it's actually specifically for that, they're only telling you what the processing capabilities are. They can do so much more than just render games.

Scalping will always be a problem when something is in very short supply but in high demand during times when people are in financial stress and don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about other people. As soon as Windows 11 was mentioned as requiring a TPM 2.0 module, those modules were immediately going out of stock and people were reselling them for a higher price. People are just scum when they want to be, it's not going to go away as long as there's a demand that can't be sated, so what's happening now, will only repeat itself time and time again until scalping is made a criminal offence.

Gamers actually needed gpu's more than miners, specially during lockdowns, i mean, some ppl were actually losing their minds without gaming. Gaming is a necessity to some. Not as important as food, but as important as internet connection. And miners just wanted to get on the money printing bandwagon and honestly, they can go F themselves.

And yeah, scalping will always be a problem, but as you say, only for things that are in low supply. Once gpu supply becomes normal, scalpers will move on to scalping something else which is fine by me.
最后由 Andrius227 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:29
r.linder 2021 年 7 月 2 日 下午 2:34 
引用自 Andrius227
引用自 Escorve
That's a logic I can't agree with. Nobody needs a video card more than any other person, regardless of circumstances. It's just a product, nobody is entitled to it, so whoever gets it, gets it.

Video cards that are MARKETED for gaming doesn't mean it's actually specifically for that, they're only telling you what the processing capabilities are. They can do so much more than just render games.

Scalping will always be a problem when something is in very short supply but in high demand during times when people are in financial stress and don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about other people. As soon as Windows 11 was mentioned as requiring a TPM 2.0 module, those modules were immediately going out of stock and people were reselling them for a higher price. People are just scum when they want to be, it's not going to go away as long as there's a demand that can't be sated, so what's happening now, will only repeat itself time and time again until scalping is made a criminal offence.

Gamers actually needed gpu's more than miners, specially during lockdowns, i mean, some ppl were actually losing their minds without gaming. And miners just wanted to get on the money printing bandwagon and honestly, they can go F themselves.

And yeah, scalping will always be a problem, but as you say, only for things that are in low supply. Once gpu supply becomes normal, scalpers will move on to scalping something else which is fine by me.
Again, flawed logic I can't agree with. It's just a product that's first come, first serve, they don't deserve it any more or less than you do. You're looking at miners as if they're the big devil just because they want money, and you couldn't be more wrong. They're a completely different breed than scalpers because they aren't scamming people to make money and they're not stealing GPUs from the hands of gamers. They got there first, fair and square, that's how the market works. Deal with it. There's no shame in buying a GPU to come up with extra income when people are struggling to make money right now. Does gaming make you money? No, probably not, if anything, for 99% of gamers it's just a money sink that goes nowhere. Gamers can also mine when they aren't gaming, but of course, the LHR cards will be less effective. You're paying for a card that is weaker in some instances.

You can also find other hobbies than sitting at a computer and playing games all day. I used to play games a lot before lockdown, but nowadays I barely play at all for more than a few hours at most. (Black Desert runs on my taskbar almost 24/7 because that game plays itself so my 14K+ hours is basically BS)

I took up music as another hobby to pass the time that could prove to be more beneficial in the long run and doesn't cost nearly as much. For instance, a 200$ guitar can sound basically the same as a 2000$ guitar, sometimes actually better in some instances. With PC tech, it's not really the same story with some components, the more expensive one usually is better for a reason.
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