AMD FX-8350 vs i5-4670 processors. Which one is better for gaming?

[Tamales]

So right now I'm stuck trying to figure out what processor to pick. I had originally decided to get the i5-4670 but then I came across the AMD FX-8350. It has 8 cores compared to the 4 cores of the i5 and it's supposedly faster than the i5 and lastly it is cheaper than the i5 (I'm referring specifically to the 4670). I've checked the benchmarks and supposedly the FX is better than the i5 but is it good for gaming? I mean if I can get a processor that is more powerful and somehow cheaper than the i5, I'll get it but I can't find any comparisons between them for gaming to make sure it is worth it. Can you guys help me?

[OmniouS]

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4670-vs-AMD-FX-8350

You should look at getting the 4690 now that it is available. Maybe even look at the unlocked K version which will overclock a decent amount.

[Tamales]

I can see that the 4690 is also cheaper...Why is the 4670 more expensive if the 4690 has better specs...?

[_I_]

4690 will need a h97 or z97 board

i5 is better than fx8000s for gaming
most games do not need over 4 cores, and intel cores speeds are much higher than amd
2.5ghz from intel = 4ghz from amd

and games like faster core speeds
even games that like more cores run a majority on 1 thread
which is why bf4 runs as good on an i3 as fx 6-8000s

[Joker]

I don't know what benchmarks you are looking at, but the i5-4670K and i5-4690K are quite a bit faster and better for gaming. The FX 8350 isn't terrible by any means. I have an i5-4670K and it beasts through the most demanding games with ease and even the Dolphin Wii emulator. That is pretty CPU demanding. Games benefit from single threaded performance. Having 8 weak modules (not really cores) isn't great for games. The 8350 is still fairly decent, especially with a heavy overclock. The i5-4670K doesn't need overclocking. I didn't bother overclocking mine and it's still very fast. Everything I do is so smooth and fast.

Even an Intel i3 beats most AMD CPUs in gaming. One thing AMD does better is cheap multi-threading power. You have to spend more for an Intel i7 to get hyper-threading or a six core. This doesn't mean much for gaming, but makes video rendering, Photoshop and WinRar faster. Even those things are fairly quick with an i5-4670K.

You can't just look at core count to decide what the better CPU is. Just about everybody makes that mistake. They just see core count and GHZ and then end up with a weak CPU. Games only use around 1-4 cores. You want those cores to be powerful. The quad core i5 beats an 8 "core" FX. Again, I don't know what benchmarks you are looking at, but it doesn't mesh with all the benchmarks I've looked at. In most cases Intel is faster and in some rare cases they are about equal. It really just comes down to budget. If getting an I5 meant getting a weaker GPU then stick to the FX. If that isn't a problem then get an i5 or i7.

Don't mistake this post as just Intel fanboyism. I was using AMD CPUs for the past ten years before learning more about CPUs and made the switch to Intel.

The good news is you will have a pretty good gaming rig either way as long as you have a decent GPU. The GPU does most of the work anyway, but needs to be fed by a decent CPU for best results.

[tuggernuts87]

I just upgraded to an 8350 with a nice air cooler and 8gb of ram.

You don't need to drop huge cash to game. I have had NO problems at all with any game running an 8350.

Save yourself half the cash and buy an AMD.

[Tamales]

Okay, I see. Dead Pixel, I was making the mistake of assuming more cores = better CPU. Thanks, that helps out a lot and I was originally planning to get a Z97 mobo with a GTX 770 Twin Frozer GPU so I guess I'll get the i5-4690. It's around the same price as the FX 8350 but it seems powerful than both that one and the 4670.

Thanks everybody for your help. You might see me posting more discussions throughout the week asking stuff since I'm a complete noob and am trying to build my first pc

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Might as well go Intel; while the 8350 is good and not expensive, the boards are.
There is no good AMD Motherboard for FX-8 series below $150 or more range. So u say it's cost effective to go AMD? Not really, u'll spend less for a quality CPU such as 8350, but that will require a premium motherboard, otherwise using such a CPU as that will make cheaper boards burn out prematurely/quicker.

U can spend the roughly same amount and go with a H97 Motherboard + i5 4670K

[Stupid Fu*kin Mistakes]

I5 4670k is much batter and powerful then AMD with perfect fps search it up your self for more informatiom :-)

[tuggernuts87]

http://www.amazon.com/M5A99FX-PRO-R2-0-990FX-Motherboard/dp/B008B6ONXK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403909238&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+m5a99fx+pro+r2.0

$134.99 in stock and free 2 day shipping if you have prime. I am running this board and it is flawless with amazing overclocking capabilities. I got a deal at Microcenter with that motherboard, an 8350 and 8gb of ram along with a hyper 212 evo cooler for roughly $400ish and then the rebates on top of that (35ish).

I am no hardware guru but for the money its phenomenal bang for your buck.

Just saying...

[louismax]

I'd like to say that i5-4690(k) et 4790(k), the devil's canyon CPU are compatible with 1150 Motherboards , so you can have a i5-4690k on a Z87/h87/b85.... mobo.

[Mozendo]

For gaming it's no contest Intel wins, it's not a persona preference it's a fact.
Also there are other i5s processors than the 4670, so if you can't get a 4670 get a cheaper i5.
No reason to get an AMD processor for gaming when very little games prefer AMD's multiple cores.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von abedsbrother:

Tamales, it basically comes down to personal preference whether to choose AMD or Intel.

lol what.

The guy is using Battlefield 4 as to say why this debate is silly?
Runs great on any recent hardware, cherry picking a game isn't going to make it true.

Then he says something along the lines of
"Don't overlook AMD because you won't notice any difference above 60 frames"
Is dumb response excuse Intel's better performance in gaming, especially when using Battlefield 4 as a benchmark.

The difference between an FX-8350 and a 3570k which is an outdated processor on Starcraft 2 was about 20 FPS alone, Arma 3 pretty much another substantial difference.

Then there's something to question as they why he bought an i7-3770k when an i5-3570k would have been cheaper and basically the same performance, and spends $200 on a motherboard and complains that he already spend $300 on a processor when an $120 Z Mobo would have been just fine.

He does bring up that you shouldn't spend that much unless your some OC fanatic which is true, but he also fails to talk about how AMD is worse when it comes to other games, and how not everyone is comfortable with overclocking.

He then brings up X79 MoBos says it's not for people who play games then continues to complain about it which is dumb.

Then the next couple of minutes is him repeating himself with the whole "It's good enough performance!"

Ursprünglich geschrieben von abedsbrother:

In benchmarks, AMD does some things better

Not gaming wise.
While there are games that run better on AMD CPUs they're so few to even consider.
AMD is better multimedia wise.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von abedsbrother:

And as far as motherboards, yes you can spend a lot of money on a good AMD motherboard, but this is also true for a good Intel motherboard. If you're planning on building a solid gaming rig, you should expect to spend around $100-150 on a motherboard anyway.

Unless you're overclocking there's no reason to spend that much on a motherboard, even then $150 too much unless you're an OC fanatic.

[Tamales]

Right now I'm just starting so I'm not interested in overclocking yet.

[Mozendo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tamales:

Right now I'm just starting so I'm not interested in overclocking yet.

Then by all means get an i5. I'm not trying to ♥♥♥♥ on AMD, but their processors are not the best for gaming.

While the i5-4670/i5-4690 processors are the most recommended as I said before there are other i5s to take into consideration if you can't afford them.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von abedsbrother:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mozendo:

For gaming it's no contest Intel wins, it's not a personal preference it's a fact.

Agree to disagree.

With what evidence?
You really don't know what you're talking about.

[Tamales]

Hmm, well this discussion has definitely helped me out. I've decided to take the intel route but it is good to know that AMD might be another direction I could take. Thanks everybody for your help!

[tuggernuts87]

So do we get tamales? I'll take 12 chicken and 12 pork! And a 44oz horchata please :)