GTX 770 VS GTX 780

[reveilleun]

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-780-vs-GeForce-GTX-770

currently, i have a GTX 770. would it be worth whle to buy this gtx 780 at the same price i bought my gtx 770 last year?

according t gpu boss, my gtx 770 has a higher clock speed.
is that good or bad? what does clock speed even mean?

what should i be really looking for when looking for an upgrade to my gtx 770? is it even time to upgrade my gpu?

what difference would I see in buying a 780? 10fps more? or a huge difference in fps and other areas?

stick with 770 or upgrade to 780?

sorry for all the questions but i'm not sure what to do at the moment.

[_I_]

correct the 770 is clocked faster
but the 780 has almost 1000 more cores (1536 vs 2304)
and more ram bandwidth
192bit to 384bit
that will make the card alot faster

http://www.hwcompare.com/14625/geforce-gtx-770-vs-geforce-gtx-780/

[Azza ☠]

The GTX 770 is a recreation of the GTX 680 with an extra boost, while using less energy and quieter (Nvidia development Tick/Tock cycle). These cards can max out on high/ultra pretty much all games running on a 1920x1080 (1080p) resolution.

So it will depend on your monitor resolution.

If at 1920x1080 and a single monitor, then you won't notice much difference at all. Just use GeForce Experience software to keep your drivers up-to-date and games at optimal settings. Nvidia has future proofed all these cards 100% to support DirectX 12 when it's released and performance boosts will keep coming (*cough* unlike AMD at 33%).

On the other hand - If going for 2560x1600 (1440p) or using multiple monitors, this is where a GTX 780 would shine, I would personally suggest the GTX 780Ti to make it worth the leap. With the GTX 780 you get more VRAM and performance to support higher resolutions and better SLIing. You should have to have a good quality 1440p monitor or upgrade the monitor as well to make a big noticable difference. The GTX 770 starts to choke here with a little lag and the performance of the GTX 780 shows, taking over.

Ignore 4K monitors for now (UltraHD) till Pascal cards in 2016+. 4K Monitors, aren't actually 4K yet... rather look for the UltraHD label on them. This UltraHD means they are actually lower than true 4K. 4K Ultra High Definition is actually a derivation of the 4K digital cinema standard. Rather than being in native 4096 x 2160 resolution, this new consumer format is 3840 X 2160. This is due to the low support levels of 4K, you need the movies/games all to support 4K resolution first (it's just resolution upscaling at the moment). Currently there's no consumer 4K solution for LCD, D-ILA or DLP projectors.

In 2016, Nvidia will be releasing Pascal cards which replace the PCI-e 16x (16GB/s) motherboard slot, with their own whopping NV Link (80GB/s) - 5 to 12 times more bandwidth that the standard graphic cards of today. Also use 3D memory replacing the standard DDR5 VRAM of the graphics card, therefore doubling the bandwidth of that too. Also, DDR4 memory will be wiping out DDR3 around that same time too, next generation PCs will surely be born. This means a single graphics card could run 4K monitors no sweat, even tri screen setups. 4K monitors will decrease in price slowly and become more of the standard around that time. You should wait and hold off if possible for that, if happly with your monitor resolution.

Nvidia has already designed their later model cards to be very future proofed, specially for around that time, so people who don't upgrade to higher resolution monitors can stick happily to their older graphics card with good performance and technology covered in patch upgrades.

[4IDEN]

Just reading that im i write in saying then
1080p x1 monitor 770 high ultra
1080px3 780 high
1080px3 780ti ultra
1440p x1 770 medium
1440p x1 780 high
1440p x1 780ti ultra

As guide line for say 85% of games

[reveilleun]

thanks for the answers, especialy azza. currently, i'm using 1080p and i won't be moving to 1440p until the price comes down drasticly.

so, the next gpu's coming out from nvidia won't be until 2016? so would be my card still be be fine until then?

[UberFiend]

the step from 770 to 780 is simply not worth the money

have you considered overclocking the 770 further?

[reveilleun]

Postat inițial de UberFiend:

the step from 770 to 780 is simply not worth the money

have you considered overclocking the 770 further?

i've not.

I don't have much knowledge when it comes to overclocking. i'm more worried about breaking my computer than anything!

[Stymie]

Postat inițial de Noodles:

thanks for the answers, especialy azza. currently, i'm using 1080p and i won't be moving to 1440p until the price comes down drasticly.

so, the next gpu's coming out from nvidia won't be until 2016? so would be my card still be be fine until then?

Well there are still Maxwell GPU/800 series cards that will be coming around late 2014-somewhere early 2015. It's always better to upgrade to a next, newer gen. gpu series than to current ones. Best to save your bucks for your next, worthwhile upgrade because the GTX 770 is still considered a good and current high-end card.

And yes, the GTX 780 most likely gain on average 10 fps when on 1080p, so not much difference. You can always try to overclock your GTX 770 since it can perform close to a GTX 780. (Not at the same or better performance but relatively close)

[Azza ☠]

Postat inițial de Noodles:

thanks for the answers, especialy azza. currently, i'm using 1080p and i won't be moving to 1440p until the price comes down drasticly.

so, the next gpu's coming out from nvidia won't be until 2016? so would be my card still be be fine until then?

The next GPU is almost out now, it's the Nvidia GTX 800 series (Maxwell). Better performance, yes... However, it's a mere stepping stone (Tick/Tock) for the real deal Pascal to take over. Nvidia in the past have worked with Intel creating those PCI-e slots you find on the motherboard which run every single graphics card in the world (instead quote from AMD thanking Nvidia and Mantle for borrowing their technology... error missing). They will likely do this again. Start off as an attachment arm if possible, but then intergrate it into newer motherboards as an entirely new generation of gaming PCs.

Think when DDR3 and PCI-e 2.0 first can out... DDR2 was wiped and those motherboards slowly turned into stone age tech as new motherboards replaced them all over time.

[reveilleun]

Postat inițial de Stymie™:

Postat inițial de Noodles:

thanks for the answers, especialy azza. currently, i'm using 1080p and i won't be moving to 1440p until the price comes down drasticly.

so, the next gpu's coming out from nvidia won't be until 2016? so would be my card still be be fine until then?

Well there are still Maxwell GPU/800 series cards that will be coming around late 2014-somewhere early 2015. It's always better to upgrade to a next, newer gen. gpu series than to current ones. Best to save your bucks for your next, worthwhile upgrade because the GTX 770 is still considered a good and current high-end card.

And yes, the GTX 780 most likely gain on average 10 fps when on 1080p, so not much difference. You can always try to overclock your GTX 770 since it can perform close to a GTX 780. (Not at the same or better performance but relatively close)

overclocking seems like a good option. is it possible to do that with a
be quiet! Shadow Rock Pro SR1 cpu cooler?

Postat inițial de Azza ☠:

Postat inițial de Noodles:

thanks for the answers, especialy azza. currently, i'm using 1080p and i won't be moving to 1440p until the price comes down drasticly.

so, the next gpu's coming out from nvidia won't be until 2016? so would be my card still be be fine until then?

The next GPU is almost out now, it's the Nvidia GTX 800 series (Maxwell). Better performance, yes... However, it's a mere stepping stone (Tick/Tock) for the real deal Pascal to take over. Nvidia in the past have worked with Intel creating those PCI-e slots you find on the motherboard which run every single graphics card in the world (instead quote from AMD thanking Nvidia and Mantle for borrowing their technology... error missing). They will likely do this again. Start off as an attachment arm if possible, but then intergrate it into newer motherboards as an entirely new generation of gaming PCs.

some good information here. i never even knew about Pascal.

[4IDEN]

Me to love reading these forums. It makes want to run with my low end pc as long as possible and save for 2016.

[Soma]

Thank you for the interesting info, I will buy a 770.
However, how to choose between EVGA, Gigabytes, MSI, etc? What brand is recommended?
Also does 4GB make a big difference compared to 2GB? Thank you.

[_I_]

id pick up the 2g ver, by the time most games need more than that youll need a better gpu anyway

[Stymie]

Postat inițial de Soma:

Thank you for the interesting info, I will buy a 770.
However, how to choose between EVGA, Gigabytes, MSI, etc? What brand is recommended?
Also does 4GB make a big difference compared to 2GB? Thank you.

Usually EVGA and Asus are the most popular but Gigabyte and MSI are great too. I'm using the EVGA acx cooler model and it gets the job done.

In terms of performance, 2GB and 4GB has no difference unless you use multi-monitor setups. 2GB should be enough if single monitor.

[Soma]

Thank you very much, I'm running a single 1920X1080 monitor and will keep your advices in mind.

[_I_]

even multimonitor will not use much more vram
<25mb per 1080p monitor is needed for frame buffers
4x 1080p monitors = <100mb of extra vram consumed for frame buffers

99% of vram is needed for models and textures
more vram will allow for higher game settings, but will need a stronger gpu to make use of it