7900XTX vs 4070Ti

[C1REX]

I’m planning to upgrade my aging 5700xt.
I need something 4K 60FPS capable.

I play single player games mostly on a gamepad.

The cheapest but still premium Sapphire Pulse 7900XTX 24GB costs £889 and I get Starfield Steam code with it. I would like to play the game but would probably wait for a sale.

The cheapest 4070Ti 12GB is about £788.

Any pros and cons of each choice?
Is 7900XTX worth extra £100 over nvidia’s 4070Ti?
Unfortunately 4080 is a bit over my budget.

I would be buying from overcklockers UK.

[C1REX]

So I decided and ordered 7900XTX.

£749 before VAT. £900 with 20% VAT.
Taxes :(
New GPU :)

[Paraskeet]

4070ti:
+ frame-generation
+ better raytracing performance
+ dlss
+ 3090 equivalent that consumes less power
- 12gb gddr6x is not enough for raytracing and frame-generation

7900xtx:
+ 4080 performance
+ 24gb gddr6 means you are safe for future games
+ costs the same as 4070ti
- raytracing performance is lacking
- fsr is not on par with dlss
- amd drivers need more time to mature
- build quality lottery
- vr support is lacking

depending on your preferences only the driver part might affect you since you can avoid bad build quality by buying a better aib model.

[emoticorpse]

引用自 Paraskeet：

4070ti:
+ frame-generation
+ better raytracing performance
+ dlss
+ 3090 equivalent that consumes less power
- 12gb gddr6x is not enough for raytracing and frame-generation

7900xtx:
+ 4080 performance
+ 24gb gddr6 means you are safe for future games
+ costs the same as 4070ti
- raytracing performance is lacking
- fsr is not on par with dlss
- amd drivers need more time to mature
- build quality lottery
- vr support is lacking

depending on your preferences only the driver part might affect you since you can avoid bad build quality by buying a better aib model.

You're right on the prices. I remember the 7900 XT being $100 more and even just said that in another thread. Nice to see it dropped a bit. It's lower in price than the 4070 ti at Microcenter.

[Azza ☠]

For Nvidia, the gaming performance leaps greatly from xx70s to xx80s and xx90s in all series.

At lower end, AMD graphics cards give your more performance for your budget.

For 1440p resolution, you would be looking at approx 15% better performance of the 7900 XTX over the RTX 4070 Ti.

The Nvidia RTX 40xx series however also includes DLSS 3 for later games which support it, allowing AI frame generation which can double the FPS. However, it's more ideal if trying to drive demanding 4K or Ray Tracing. Again it would be better to get the RTX 4080 or 4090 for that or wait till the RTX 50xx series.

Consider your monitor as well, does it support G-SYNC (Nvidia) or FreeSYNC (AMD, which Nvidia can support too but normally labels it as G-SYNC compatible).

[Paraskeet]

引用自 emoticorpse：

引用自 Paraskeet：

4070ti:
+ frame-generation
+ better raytracing performance
+ dlss
+ 3090 equivalent that consumes less power
- 12gb gddr6x is not enough for raytracing and frame-generation

7900xtx:
+ 4080 performance
+ 24gb gddr6 means you are safe for future games
+ costs the same as 4070ti
- raytracing performance is lacking
- fsr is not on par with dlss
- amd drivers need more time to mature
- build quality lottery
- vr support is lacking

depending on your preferences only the driver part might affect you since you can avoid bad build quality by buying a better aib model.

You're right on the prices. I remember the 7900 XT being $100 more and even just said that in another thread. Nice to see it dropped a bit. It's lower in price than the 4070 ti at Microcenter.

I know there are a lot of nvidia and amd doomers on the internet saying both amd and nvidia want to ruin mid range pc gaming but we have to wait until they get rid of their current rdna2 and ampere backlog before we see the prices further drop down.

I'm satisfied for now and wait for blackwell. if the rumors and the current leaks are anything to go by we will see some decent cards on the market with gddr7 and gddr6w

[C1REX]

引用自 Paraskeet：

4070ti:
+ better raytracing performance

7900xtx:
- raytracing performance is lacking

Nvidia has much better ray tracing BUT in this particular case with an exception of Cyberpunk these two cards have almost identical FPS in Ray Traced games.

Here is one of video benchmarks if somebody is interested.
https://youtu.be/6m21fInXsnU

And regarding the drivers I think it's so overblown it's almost a myth. My current 5700XT was my first AMD GPU and have no problems with drivers at all. Quite the opposite in fact and I'm very impressed with the drivers and overall software quality. Except DLSS and Frame generation. Nvidia is way ahead here.

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 C1REX-PL：

So I decided and ordered 7900XTX.

£749 before VAT. £900 with 20% VAT.
Taxes :(
New GPU :)

I dont think you will be disapointed at all. As you already know, in RT they are comparable and in raw performance the xtx flat out will pwn.

FSR is not at all bad, specially the 2.1 implementation, and your card will probably get FSR3 when it hits. And yes, the driver issues now days are more FUD than anything, with the 7k drivers hitting pretty stable maturity with good boosts in games. There was a recent revisit of the 7900 XT showing just that ;)

Have fun wtih the new card, just make sure you have a PSU up to the task!!!

[C1REX]

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

Have fun wtih the new card, just make sure you have a PSU up to the task!!!

Thank you. I hope my Corsair 850W will handle that. I have an AMD CPU so should be OK with total power draw.

[r.linder]

引用自 C1REX-PL：

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

Have fun wtih the new card, just make sure you have a PSU up to the task!!!

Thank you. I hope my Corsair 850W will handle that. I have an AMD CPU so should be OK with total power draw.

As long as you don’t have a super power hungry cpu, 850w is fine, even with power spikes a typical 7900xtx doesn’t go above 500w

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 C1REX-PL：

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

Have fun wtih the new card, just make sure you have a PSU up to the task!!!

Thank you. I hope my Corsair 850W will handle that. I have an AMD CPU so should be OK with total power draw.

it might, it might not.

I have a friend who went AMD for the first time in a long while recently and got the 7900xtx. He had a few years old 800w seasonic and I encouraged him to get better. He insisted it would be fine.

He had major stability issues that were resolved quickly with power limiting the card.

He got a new 1000w seasonic and all the issues went away. That was ofc after multiple nights of complaints, blaming the card, blaming the driver, blaming the third party card builder. In the end, just needed power.

I personally wouldn't run a flagship GPU from either brand on anything less than a 950-1050w unit that is well reviewed. But depending on other things in your build you *might* be fine on it. Only trying will tell.

[r.linder]

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

引用自 C1REX-PL：

Thank you. I hope my Corsair 850W will handle that. I have an AMD CPU so should be OK with total power draw.

it might, it might not.

I have a friend who went AMD for the first time in a long while recently and got the 7900xtx. He had a few years old 800w seasonic and I encouraged him to get better. He insisted it would be fine.

He had major stability issues that were resolved quickly with power limiting the card.

He got a new 1000w seasonic and all the issues went away. That was ofc after multiple nights of complaints, blaming the card, blaming the driver, blaming the third party card builder. In the end, just needed power.

I personally wouldn't run a flagship GPU from either brand on anything less than a 950-1050w unit that is well reviewed. But depending on other things in your build you *might* be fine on it. Only trying will tell.

Just a bad quality unit, not the wattage itself

A lot of units just shut off even with something like a 6900XT

[C1REX]

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

引用自 C1REX-PL：

Thank you. I hope my Corsair 850W will handle that. I have an AMD CPU so should be OK with total power draw.

it might, it might not.

I have a friend who went AMD for the first time in a long while recently and got the 7900xtx. He had a few years old 800w seasonic and I encouraged him to get better. He insisted it would be fine.

He had major stability issues that were resolved quickly with power limiting the card.

He got a new 1000w seasonic and all the issues went away. That was ofc after multiple nights of complaints, blaming the card, blaming the driver, blaming the third party card builder. In the end, just needed power.

I personally wouldn't run a flagship GPU from either brand on anything less than a 950-1050w unit that is well reviewed. But depending on other things in your build you *might* be fine on it. Only trying will tell.

If I will have stability problems I will upgrade my PSU but according to my calculations I should fine. Will see.

[hardergamer]

Which Corsair 850W is it? If it's a TX or SF models with LOT (194448* through 201148*) have potential problems, I would check online, also some sold between 2019-2021 were recalled from stability or tripping problems at higher draw, look up PSU tier lists, and on the Corsair website, as they have a "Voluntary Product Replacement" on some PSUs. And the card is not that power hungry, its TDP is 355w, and has a recommended PSU of 750W, But my XTX Nitro+ peaks at 420w before I undervolted it, and now it uses around 330w. I'm only saying this as I had an TX850 fail on my last year that was a year old, but Corsair replaced it for a TX850M which is very good.

[C1REX]

引用自 hardergamer：

Which Corsair 850W is it? If it's a TX or SF models with LOT (194448* through 201148*) have potential problems, I would check online, also some sold between 2019-2021 were recalled from stability or tripping problems at higher draw, look up PSU tier lists, and on the Corsair website, as they have a "Voluntary Product Replacement" on some PSUs. And the card is not that power hungry, its TDP is 355w, and has a recommended PSU of 750W, But my XTX Nitro+ peaks at 420w before I undervolted it, and now it uses around 330w. I'm only saying this as I had an TX850 fail on my last year that was a year old, but Corsair replaced it for a TX850M which is very good.

I will simply connect it and will know for sure in just few hours. I have a Corsair RM850X. I remember when people were asking me why I buy such a big PSU when just a little bit later I already regret it’s not bigger. Haha.
Thanks for the heads up. If something won’t be stable I will check my power supply first before blaming AMD drivers.

[C1REX]

A small update about the 7900xtx if somebody is interested.

- the GPU works well and stable on a 850W power supply while running with 16core Ryzen 3950x.
- the GPU is surprisingly not that big. Slightly bigger than my old Sapphire Nitro+ 5700XT.
- free Starfield game is Premium Edition. I expected the basic one and got one worth £85.99 in UK.
- power draw at idle is about 12W on a 4K120Hz display. 70W while watching YouTube. Power draw peaks above 400W with standard factory OC settings.
- Ryzen 3950x (gaming performance of 3700x) doesn’t seem to bottleneck at 4K in games I tested. I was worried about this.
- card is cool and quiet. No coil whine in mine.

I’m generally very happy with the GPU. Also very impressed how well 5700XT performed in the last few years.