Good budget Build?
So, I want to make a gaming computer but I'm not sure if this is a good build. Could i do better for the same price or less ?

Cpu: Celeron G1840(dual core 2.8Ghz-Intel)
Gpu: Gigabyte GV-N210SL-1GI
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33(micro atx-Intel)
Psu: LDLC FP-350 Quality Select 80PLUS Bronze
Case: Zalman ZM-T3

209.55€
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_I_ 1. čvc. 2015 v 12.45 
cpu
go with a pentium g 3220-3258, wont cost much more

gpu
gt210 is a very old weak gpu, the intel hd is as good, either get a used gtx card or r9 card instead
or go without if on a very tight budget

mobo
go with a b85 board with 4 dimm slots minimum, more features than h81 boards and still cost under $50usd

psu
go with a better brand psu
its hte one component that can kill all others when things go bad
aim for antec, corsair, seasonic, xfx, evga,
Thanks for answering my question, but if you dont mind could you kindoff show me what games the build with the celeron can do?
Naposledy upravil capricousFort; 1. čvc. 2015 v 23.07
_I_ 1. čvc. 2015 v 23.30 
the celeron is as good as any amd quad

any game that requires a amd (aii/pii/fx) x4 3.5+ghz cpu will run fine on the celeron 2.8ghz cpu

for the intel hd, its as good sa a gf4200ti or gt210/320 or amd/ati hd 3200

will run quake engine 4 (id-tech 4) games fine (doom3, quake4)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech
and unreal engine 1-3 games fine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games

if you get a dedicated gpu, it will play later games, but youll need an i5 and r9 gpu to play the latest titles at 1080 with mid+ settigns and hold 50+fps
Naposledy upravil _I_; 1. čvc. 2015 v 23.32
This will be much better than what you posted. What you posted was total trash for gaming. The A6-7400K APU contains both a better CPU than that Celeron and also integrated graphics that are better than a GT 210 which is extremely old and low end.

AMD A6-7400K 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor
MSI A78M-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard
Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/smt823
Total: £208.16

However this is not the greatest as the A6 APU is only 1/2 as good a CPU as found in the PS4 or XB1 and it's integrated graphics are no where near. It's still much better than a Play Station 3 or Xbox 360 though so there are lots of older or less demanding games it can play.

To get much better value you only need to spend a little bit more on a better quadcore APU which will also contain much better integrated graphics like so:

AMD A8-7650K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor
MSI A78M-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard
Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/4MhtFT
Total: £237.73

That should perform like twice as good but it's still not as good as the newest gaming consoles. It would need better graphics for that, at least a R7 250X and ideally a R7 260X, R9 270 or even R9 270X dedicated card. All the other parts are as good as the PS4 or XB1 except the graphics though and graphics can be upgraded as there is enough power on the PSU to spare.

If you want to get one that is technically as good as a XB1 right up front there is this:

AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor
MSI A78M-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard
Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
XFX Radeon R7 250X 1GB Video Card
Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/QVNPTW
Total: £271.43

The PS4 has more powerful graphics though so to compete with that you'd need a more powerful graphics card. You can still do that for under 300 GBP like so:

AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor
MSI A78M-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard
Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
PowerColor Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card
Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/GmsXzy
Total: £297.71

The R7 260X is just a little bit more powerful in technical stats than the PS4's GPU.
the a6/a10 will have a better gpu, but their cpus are lower than the celeron g

and adding a dedicated gpu to them puts you below the celeron g with the dedicated gpu
OP your specs are way to low to even play games, so do not buy such crap as that please.

What country do u live and are buying in/from?

Cause ROVE made some suggestions, but like usual he can't read and put everything in £

I'm buying in France.
Naposledy upravil capricousFort; 2. čvc. 2015 v 5.16
capricousFort původně napsal:
I'm buying in France.

Woops lol hang on I put GBP, will change for Euro, closest PC Part Picker site is Germany or Spain. Here's one from Germany:

AMD A4-6300 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor
Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Seagate Pipeline HD 250GB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive
Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Cooler Master Elite Power 400W ATX Power Supply
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/qBJM7P
Total: €208.08

That little CPU has better integrated graphics than the GT 210 by like 3 times. Also though it is locked to prevent overclocking people have found a way to overclock it anyways.

This PC can play DoTA2 and many other undemanding modern games as well as lots of older games. However there are also lots of current and upcoming games that it simply can not play. It's just too weak. It's more a home office or entertainment PC than a gaming PC.

Realistically to get a proper gaming PC you will have to spend more cash.

This would give you more than double the performance for less than double the price:

AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor
MSI A78M-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/HY7823
Base Total: €373.12
Shipping: €6.99
Total: €380.11

This APU is unlocked for easily overclocking the CPU and integrated GPU (graphics).

Also you can later add in a R7 250 dedicated graphics card that can do dual graphics crossfire with the A10-7850K APU to even further increase it's graphics power:

XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r7250aclf4
Amazon Deutschland €82.89 +FREE s/h In stock €82.89

The R7 250 GPU plus the A10-7850K APU in dual graphics hybrid crossfire will give over 1600 GFLOPS placing it's power between the Xbox One and the PlayStation 4. Everything else in this build is already about as good or better than the Xbox One or Play Station 4 except the graphics so this is the upgrade you really need.
Naposledy upravil Rove; 2. čvc. 2015 v 10.05
_I_ 2. čvc. 2015 v 10.45 
880g chipset wasnt designed for fx either

and do not get ram over 1.5v on a new build, it will not work properly on intel cpus

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/HbH2wP

for upgrades, just get a better gpu, and cpu

on roves apu builds, the upgrade is throw it away and buy an intel build
since there are no better cpus from the a10, and mid-higher gpus will be wasted on it since its cpu cant push anything beyond the r9 270
Naposledy upravil _I_; 2. čvc. 2015 v 10.47
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