New nvidia update hardlocked/froze pc after installation

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Hey all just downloaded the new nvidia update (after previously not updating due to the know game issues of the last one)

And I got the “instillation finish” screen and the computer wouldn’t respond(nor would my 2nd monitor turn back on like it does automatically after an update).

Could this have been a driver issue/something to worry about?

I’ve legit NEVER had this thing lock on me until now

Anyone else run into this issue?

Thoughts? And thanks in advance gang

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Which version?
Run the DDU app and wipe out everything. Check it's options so you can wipe everything such as GFE and Vulkan. Then reboot and install stable driver version of choice. Disable Winows Updates ability to update your Drivers.

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Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Which version?
Run the DDU app and wipe out everything. Check it's options so you can wipe everything such as GFE and Vulkan. Then reboot and install stable driver version of choice. Disable Winows Updates ability to update your Drivers.

I updated from whatever was before the 526.47 update (the driver version before that) to the current 11/10/2022 driver

yep did DDU wipe/clean and restart and updated the the latest version (i did keep GFE), doing some game testing now but i have the say im a little confused at what happend, never had this happen before

Could this just be a possible bad update/driver issue?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Don't use the update driver option.
When you want to go to a different version use DDU and wipe everything, even GFE.
Then download and install the driver version you want. This way the Drivers contained in the package along with GFE all get a fresh clean install.

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Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Don't use the update driver option.
When you want to go to a different version use DDU and wipe everything, even GFE.
Then download and install the driver version you want. This way the Drivers contained in the package along with GFE all get a fresh clean install.

So while the driver and gfe next time then? I’ll definitely do that if I ever need to again.

So what caused the hard lock? Was it the new nvidia driver bugging out?

Is that something I now have to worry about for these driver updates or?

[plat]

You boot into Safe Mode. This disables all third party drivers of which NVIDIA is one.

From desktop: Windows key and R key together. Type: msconfig
Select "boot" tab and then: Safe boot. Restart machine. From there you can run DDU to get rid of the offending driver.

If desktop is completely frozen, shut down and start up from there immed. Do this 3 times or until you get the blue Recovery screen. Select Advanced options and follow the prompts.

Edit: typo!

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plat님이 먼저 게시:

You boot into Safe Mode. This disables all third party drivers of which NVIDIA is one.

From desktop: Windows key and R key together. Type: msconfig
Select "boot" tab and then: Safe boot. Restart machine. From there you can run DDU to get rid of the offending driver.

If desktop is completely frozen, shut down and start up from there immed. Do this 3 times or until you get the blue Recovery screen. Select Advanced options and follow the prompts.

Edit: typo!

Hey there!

Yep I already ran ddu whipped And re installed to the latest driver. But My question along with that is why this happened as it hasn’t ever happened with an update before until now

Was it a bad driver etc? Is this something that is common or?

[plat]

It's very hard to know. All you can do is make assumptions based on what you observed before, during and after, or do the tedious "disabling half of non-Micro services, then booting into Normal mode, rinse and repeat.". If it happens again, which is rare, then follow the above advice. Safe Mode is the key, that's why you run DDU there, b/c the driver is disabled and won't interfere.

Like four years ago, a bad driver interaction between two security programs also resulted in a frozen desktop after one of them updated to a new build. The desktop was completely locked but when I went into Safe Mode, it ran eerily fine (both programs were disabled). This is why in some real-time programs, there exists a capability to exclude one from the other--but almost always this is more an antivirus thing rather than a hardware driver thing.

If you search this issue, there have been similar complaints, you were not alone.

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plat님이 먼저 게시:

It's very hard to know. All you can do is make assumptions based on what you observed before, during and after, or do the tedious "disabling half of non-Micro services, then booting into Normal mode, rinse and repeat.". If it happens again, which is rare, then follow the above advice. Safe Mode is the key, that's why you run DDU there, b/c the driver is disabled and won't interfere.

Like four years ago, a bad driver interaction between two security programs also resulted in a frozen desktop after one of them updated to a new build. The desktop was completely locked but when I went into Safe Mode, it ran eerily fine (both programs were disabled). This is why in some real-time programs, there exists a capability to exclude one from the other--but almost always this is more an antivirus thing rather than a hardware driver thing.

If you search this issue, there have been similar complaints, you were not alone.

Thanks, Im not sure about additional anti virus software but there have been similar complaints about this update hard locking the desktop? Didn’t know/see those

I went ahead and just did ddu including removing gfe , making sure the internet wasn’t on/that windows doesn’t install its own nvidia drivers and reinstalled the latest drivers

Just kind of worried if this will happen again no idea what caused this etc

Where were the other threads about this new driver hard locking issue etc?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

plat님이 먼저 게시:

You boot into Safe Mode. This disables all third party drivers of which NVIDIA is one.

From desktop: Windows key and R key together. Type: msconfig
Select "boot" tab and then: Safe boot. Restart machine. From there you can run DDU to get rid of the offending driver.

If desktop is completely frozen, shut down and start up from there immed. Do this 3 times or until you get the blue Recovery screen. Select Advanced options and follow the prompts.

No need to do that. Just select the safe mode +restart option in DDU

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plat님이 먼저 게시:

You boot into Safe Mode. This disables all third party drivers of which NVIDIA is one.

From desktop: Windows key and R key together. Type: msconfig
Select "boot" tab and then: Safe boot. Restart machine. From there you can run DDU to get rid of the offending driver.

If desktop is completely frozen, shut down and start up from there immed. Do this 3 times or until you get the blue Recovery screen. Select Advanced options and follow the prompts.

No need to do that. Just select the safe mode +restart option in DDU

I used ddu and just cleaned restart and re installed the current driver. What do you think cause the issue though?

Never had that happen at all

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Possibly it was getting the driver via WU at the same time.

[plat]

I read about this posted by someone on another forum. Don't know if it applies to your situation but if a device is pegged at 100% usage, a freeze may occur on the desktop.

If you run Windows 11, are you willing to update the NV driver again to the latest v. 526.98? This build supposedly addresses that issue.

https://www.neowin.net/news/nvidia-finally-fixes-a-major-windows-11-bug-causing-100-usage-on-idle-geforce-gpus/

You can use DDU if you want--in Safe Mode, of course.

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

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Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

No need to do that. Just select the safe mode +restart option in DDU

I don't fully 100% trust DDU--this is based on past personal experience. But it's prob. safe to do that way. I just use Windows myself. Personal decision.

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Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

No need to do that. Just select the safe mode +restart option in DDU

I don't fully 100% trust DDU--this is based on past personal experience. But it's prob. safe to do that way. I just use Windows myself. Personal decision.

Yes it's safe. It always has been. Its been a go-to tool since the WinXP days. I don't even know how someone could have a bad experience with it except the user doing something wrong or unintended perhaps. Do it through the normal uninstall method is a chore and requires it done and a certain order and may require multiple reboots. Plus there are other factors at play. You can use DDU to one click remove everything safely; your Monitors, Vulkan, anything related to Intel, Amd, Nvidia gpus and chipset drivers and registry entries. Removal of GeForce Experience, removal of all the junk the driver installers leave behind, etc. It also makes entering Windows Safe Mode super simple.

For now the 526 driver is only for the RTX 40 series and does nothing for others. If anything it may cause some games to not work right now, such as RDR2 for example.

If you on Win10 22H2 or Win11 22H2, ensure to install the latest Windows Updates as these also addresses various problems and bugs.

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Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Possibly it was getting the driver via WU at the same time.

I actually didn’t think of that, that’s possible..maybe