Gtx 980 with a 500 Power Wattage.

[JoJo]

So i just bought my first pc its on route and im just wondering if its gonna work out well .. im reading around that a gtx 980 needs a better power wattage then 500w

Heres the PC /: gonna be using it for gaming on the most recent games and live streaming hopefully.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/asus-asus-g10aj-gaming-pc-intel-core-i7-4790-2tb-hdd-16gb-ram-nvidia-gtx980-graphics-windows-8-1-g10aj-ca011s/10364438.aspx?path=535a6ef287e1d7cea2cf0dcabc3d81b8en02

The screen i plan on using with it takes up about 23w.. I am a little lost of to why a company would sell me a PC with a graphics card that the PC can barely handle?

Thanks for any inputs and all help .

[Space Coward]

引用自 mitch2211：

better save then sorry with SPU's...i would go for 600 or even 650W, because overheating is very bad for all your modules and can slow you down

What does overheating have to do with it? PSU's provide the wattage you need, and the fan it has won't necessarily vary based on its max TDP.

There's nothing wrong with a 500w PSU, since he's not getting an AMD card.

[_I_]

with an intel 115x build a quality 550w psu is enough for any single gpu
with the gtx970/980 a quality 450w will work if it has limited accessories

labeled wattage is meaningless

[Samadhi]

引用自 _I_：

with an intel 115x build a quality 550w psu is enough for any single gpu

labeled wattage is meaningless

Sorry, but thats incorrect. The GTX980Ti requires a 600W PSU, only the brave or foolish would try to run a high end 115x single GPU PC on a 550W PSU.
TBH i wouldn't get less than a 750W PSU for a system like that, as effiiciency drops off under load and you pay more per watt than a PSU that operates at 50% load.

Labelled wattage, while not always accurately represented, is still useful.
Meaningless is a strong word.

[_I_]

recomended is 600w if your running a fx9 220w cpu and 6+ hdds, and a case full of fans ect..

for a lower power build a quality 550w is fine
i5 4690k is under 90w
1hdd/ssd will not need as much power
few fans will be ok with the build

most intel 115x builds are under 250w
a single gtx 980 is 165w
a qualty 450w psu is fine

980ti is 250w
500w will be fine for the ti

550w is enough for a r9 290x (300w)

[Space Coward]

引用自 RF Samaister：

引用自 _I_：

with an intel 115x build a quality 550w psu is enough for any single gpu

labeled wattage is meaningless

Sorry, but thats incorrect. The GTX980Ti requires a 600W PSU, only the brave or foolish would try to run a high end 115x single GPU PC on a 550W PSU.
TBH i wouldn't get less than a 750W PSU for a system like that, as effiiciency drops off under load and you pay more per watt than a PSU that operates at 50% load.

Labelled wattage, while not always accurately represented, is still useful.
Meaningless is a strong word.

Correction-- that's what the box says. The 980ti will only use so much power, and you can calculate more precisely using the real numbers. If you have two HDD's, an Intel CPU, and a single GPU, you'll get away with nearly anything at 550 or 600w. Even a Titan X can fit in a 550w PSU if you've got an Intel CPU that doesn't use too much power.

Also, the topic was the 980, not the 980ti.

[JoJo]

引用自 The.Spaz.：

引用自 4 Series Express Family Chipset：

I really appreciate all this information ! The only thing is i dont know the first thing about putting together a computer nor do i know anybody that knows how thats why i bought it pre built a couple of people sent me parts that may or may not have been better for a better price but i simply cannot order the parts if i have no knowledge of how to install these parts and i figured its better to not risk it with my first PC.

Thanks again for the input though :)

I suppose I am lucky enough to have access to PC store. Microcenters seem to be pretty rare I hear. Anyway, I guess divulging a little bit more about my situation might give you a little bit more courage in yourself. I have built a PC long ago when the first pentium 4 came out and since then have been solely on laptop as I tend to travel a lot. I eventually got enought funds and some from home to get an expensive Dell Alienware m 17x laptop with a pair of dual graphic cards (270ms). That thing was a beast and it was still able to keep up with most games and it was more than enough to get work done. I had also shifted majority of my gaming time to the PS3 and thigns were good.

A month and a half a go it finally died and the killing software was Black Ops 2 which I decided to check out on a whim. Its strange to think this game was the killing stroke when more demanding games like TW2 and Titanfall were able to run on it without much problems. Whats worse is that I busted a decent chunk of money ordering an SLI upgrade (280ms) a year ago too. Now it had died several times before but I was always able to bring it back however this last time I lacked the tools and had to hand it into someone who could. Turns out I was lucky it was just the primary GPU that burnt out, the rest was in tact. I figured maybe it was time to get something a little more upto date. A month or two without a PC wouldn't be so bad right? I got my ps3.

Work has piled up and I have been spending long nights in the office to cut the load down... whats worse my company recently had all PCs replaced with Macs and the versions of their compilers did not agree turncated chunks of codes to utter garbage and I can never stand macs... seems like I need a PC sooner than I anticipated and funds are tight and I have not been paying attention to any of the latest trends so I was pretty much as much a novice at building a rig as you were. I just walked to the closest microcenter and asked a bunch of questions... I left the place with a dumb expression on my face and then spend the next few days doing heavy reserch into the whole catalogs all the way from the 90s and you know what? I would still leave that place with that blank stare in my face... it was a pain in the ass and intel went out of their way to confuse the ♥♥♥♥ out their modeling schemes. But eventually I learned enough to know whats what and find that right build. The recommendations are not hard to get from anybody but deciding what is right for you is a big pain. The above two links I posted are the two builds I narrowed it down to... the higher end model is what really really wanted but eventually after more researching it was apparent the 4920k build was more than overkill for most of my uses.

Basically my long winded post is to point out yeah making a PC is a pain. Especially the research portion of it but it pays off and you know what you want exactly. Right before I posted here I was asking more questions about my builds just to be sure and most people would suggest I could go less, but hey who wants to go lower than a build they made that sounds perfect in every way to you? But still that also means you hit a good barrier to expand from and no one will say its lacking. PCs are becoming as much of a resource as the internet is and owning one is becoming a standard. Even my mom who cannot even uplug a TV is able to go to google and skype me. You don't sound like a person is in his final years, so I suggest you take a stab at it. Believe me you will be kicking yourself for not doing it sooner... its a good knowledge to have in this digital age of ours and clearly it has paid off. I advice is to forget your insecurity and walk into the next PC store you find and ask away a bunch of dumb questions you will end up learning more than you know.

Thank you for this, with all this new information i have been getting im very excited about building a new computer once the funds are raised. Like what was said above there are alot of good people in this forum that have helped me through it sent me links and i feel confident by the time im ready for my next build i should have gathered all the information necessery to make the choice on my own and finally build my first PC :)

Thanks again for all the information and knowledge on this subject i appreciate inputs from each and every one of you

[Samadhi]

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

引用自 RF Samaister：

Sorry, but thats incorrect. The GTX980Ti requires a 600W PSU, only the brave or foolish would try to run a high end 115x single GPU PC on a 550W PSU.
TBH i wouldn't get less than a 750W PSU for a system like that, as effiiciency drops off under load and you pay more per watt than a PSU that operates at 50% load.

Labelled wattage, while not always accurately represented, is still useful.
Meaningless is a strong word.

Correction-- that's what the box says.

Manufacturer data is listed for a reason, I'm confident the data they release is accurate.
I can't think why Nvidia would lie about the power requirement of a card, can you?

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

Also, the topic was the 980, not the 980ti.

Actually the thread is a broad discussion regarding the suitability of a small PSU to run a higher end card.

[_I_]

mfg assumes the highest tdp cpu, maxed on hdds, fans ect..
with the poorest quality psu

big difference from a lower power cpu build with not as much hardware and a psu that can output its rated power

[Space Coward]

引用自 RF Samaister：

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

Correction-- that's what the box says.

Manufacturer data is listed for a reason, I'm confident the data they release is accurate.
I can't think why Nvidia would lie about the power requirement of a card, can you?

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

Also, the topic was the 980, not the 980ti.

Actually the thread is a broad discussion regarding the suitability of a small PSU to run a higher end card.

They highball it so that they're not liable if you try to put it in with a CX 430. You can calculate much more precisely by doing the following:

-Take your PSU's max wattage and multiply it by 0.80.
-Find your CPU and GPU's TDPs.
-Add 50 for your hard drives and other stuff.
-Check your TDP calculation with the PSU's capacity at 80% load.

If your computer is below 80% load, you're fine.

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引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

引用自 RF Samaister：

Manufacturer data is listed for a reason, I'm confident the data they release is accurate.
I can't think why Nvidia would lie about the power requirement of a card, can you?




Actually the thread is a broad discussion regarding the suitability of a small PSU to run a higher end card.

They highball it so that they're not liable if you try to put it in with a CX 430. You can calculate much more precisely by doing the following:

-Take your PSU's max wattage and multiply it by 0.80.
-Find your CPU and GPU's TDPs.
-Add 50 for your hard drives and other stuff.
-Check your TDP calculation with the PSU's capacity at 80% load.

If your computer is below 80% load, you're fine.

I hate math, but this is a simple and useful formula that can save you the headache of finding out your computer doesn't have enough power to run.

[Samadhi]

引用自 Herman：

引用自 Kill-Cam Celebrity：

They highball it so that they're not liable if you try to put it in with a CX 430. You can calculate much more precisely by doing the following:

-Take your PSU's max wattage and multiply it by 0.80.
-Find your CPU and GPU's TDPs.
-Add 50 for your hard drives and other stuff.
-Check your TDP calculation with the PSU's capacity at 80% load.

If your computer is below 80% load, you're fine.

I hate math, but this is a simple and useful formula that can save you the headache of finding out your computer doesn't have enough power to run.

I calculate mine using the 12V rails myself, its far more accurate.

If you want to see just how wrong the above method can go, take the Shaw EVO-685 MAX
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2hcnnes.jpg

Many lay people would assume its a 685W PSU and using the above formula would result in tears when something went bang.
The rails never lie....

[_I_]

引用自 RF Samaister：

I calculate mine using the 12V rails myself, its far more accurate.

If you want to see just how wrong the above method can go, take the Shaw EVO-685 MAX
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2hcnnes.jpg

Many lay people would assume its a 685W PSU and using the above formula would result in tears when something went bang.
The rails never lie....

'made in china'
cut all wattage in half

no pfc (only 200-240ac)
no 80+ rating

get a better power supply asap

[The.Spaz.]

If you fellas are talking about the original preset build he posted, I don't think 500w would be a good bet. That TI can be a hog... however if its this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L7kpsY
500w should be quite alright.

[The.Spaz.]

So what do you know of Inland Gold then? They are really cheap...

http://www.microcenter.com/product/367693/Gold_Series_ILG-500-2_500_Watt_ATX_Power_Supply

damn wrong thread. Sorry.

[JoJo]

Canada post ended up screwing me over and returned my package and im supposed to be getting a refund reading certain things i decide to go with a different computer also this one i can pick up so no pesky shipping and also the one i was originally getting is sold out everywhere -.-

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_1203_1446_1448&item_id=084833