Gtx 980 with a 500 Power Wattage.

[JoJo]

So i just bought my first pc its on route and im just wondering if its gonna work out well .. im reading around that a gtx 980 needs a better power wattage then 500w

Heres the PC /: gonna be using it for gaming on the most recent games and live streaming hopefully.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/asus-asus-g10aj-gaming-pc-intel-core-i7-4790-2tb-hdd-16gb-ram-nvidia-gtx980-graphics-windows-8-1-g10aj-ca011s/10364438.aspx?path=535a6ef287e1d7cea2cf0dcabc3d81b8en02

The screen i plan on using with it takes up about 23w.. I am a little lost of to why a company would sell me a PC with a graphics card that the PC can barely handle?

Thanks for any inputs and all help .

[JoJo]

Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

I woke up this morning and saw this my PC is on its way to my house pretty nervous of a breakdown right now :P
This is everything they tell me about the computer.
Processor Type Intel Core i7-4790
Processor Speed 3.6 MHz
Processor Cores 4
RAM 16GB DDR-3 1600Mhz
Hard Drive Capacity 2 TB
Hard Drive Speed (Revolutions Per Minute) 7200 rpm
Optical Drive Blu-Ray Disc Combo
Pre-loaded Operating System Win 8.1 64 bit
Graphics Card nVidia GTX980 4GD5
Dedicated Graphic Card Yes
Video Memory 4 GB DDR5
TV Tuner No
Display
Built-in Monitor No
Audio
Audio Output Rt Speaker; Left Speaker; Central Bass; S/PDIF; Mini Jack
Microphone Input Mini Jack
Line-In Input Mini Jack
Digital Output S/PDIF
Networking
Integrated Wi-Fi 802.11 AC+BT
Inputs & Outputs
Keyboard Yes
Mouse Yes
USB Ports 6 x USB 3.0; 4 x USB 2.0
Card Reader 1 x 16 in 1
VGA Output 1 x VGA (D-Sub)
DVI Output 1 x DVI-D
HDMI Output 1 x HDMI
Other Input or Output Ports 3 x Display Port
Computing Features
System Bus Intel H97
Power Supply 500 W

Basically using it for ARK H1Z1 ARMA III and I would like to begin live streaming taking all those things into consideration how likely is it for me to blow the battery or over heat my pc while playing these games on high graphics and streaming. As stated in an early comment the monitor only uses 23w or so it says

Thank you guys for all this help I really do appreciate it

Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome

[Revelene]

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

Woaah , do you mind if i add you :$ for when the computer comes in ? Lol i think you could be a big help when it comes to the drivers. I had a friend helping me with the basics but he never mentioned any of this.

Either way if you would rather not, I thank you very very much for this information :)

Yeah. You're welcome :)
I like to help.

[Space Coward]

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

I woke up this morning and saw this my PC is on its way to my house pretty nervous of a breakdown right now :P
This is everything they tell me about the computer.
Processor Type Intel Core i7-4790
Processor Speed 3.6 MHz
Processor Cores 4
RAM 16GB DDR-3 1600Mhz
Hard Drive Capacity 2 TB
Hard Drive Speed (Revolutions Per Minute) 7200 rpm
Optical Drive Blu-Ray Disc Combo
Pre-loaded Operating System Win 8.1 64 bit
Graphics Card nVidia GTX980 4GD5
Dedicated Graphic Card Yes
Video Memory 4 GB DDR5
TV Tuner No
Display
Built-in Monitor No
Audio
Audio Output Rt Speaker; Left Speaker; Central Bass; S/PDIF; Mini Jack
Microphone Input Mini Jack
Line-In Input Mini Jack
Digital Output S/PDIF
Networking
Integrated Wi-Fi 802.11 AC+BT
Inputs & Outputs
Keyboard Yes
Mouse Yes
USB Ports 6 x USB 3.0; 4 x USB 2.0
Card Reader 1 x 16 in 1
VGA Output 1 x VGA (D-Sub)
DVI Output 1 x DVI-D
HDMI Output 1 x HDMI
Other Input or Output Ports 3 x Display Port
Computing Features
System Bus Intel H97
Power Supply 500 W

Basically using it for ARK H1Z1 ARMA III and I would like to begin live streaming taking all those things into consideration how likely is it for me to blow the battery or over heat my pc while playing these games on high graphics and streaming. As stated in an early comment the monitor only uses 23w or so it says

Thank you guys for all this help I really do appreciate it

Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome

There's no input to give. Sounds to me like the computer's pre-built and will work out of the box.

A few key points:

• 500w PSU. It should be good at default clock speeds, but don't expect a good overclock without the necessary headroom.
  
• H97 MoBo. It's a generation or so old, and not particularly great for overclocking. All the more reason to stick to default clock speeds.
  
• Your motherboard may have wireless internet, but you won't regret it should you use an ethernet cable to directly connect to your router. You'll get much faster speeds that way.
  -4k isn't that card's strong suit. Stick to 1080p/1440p if you want a decent framerate.
  
• That's no all-in-one, so I hope it comes with a separate monitor. If you don't have a monitor, you'll be stuck using the family TV for a bit.
  
• Do NOT try to plug the monitor into the motherboard, unless you love good ol' Intel GMA graphics. Make sure it's plugged into the graphics card.

Unless you bought your computer from NCIX, drivers should be taken care of. I'm pretty sure Nvidia Geforce Experience will notify you when a new driver is available (which is very simple to update, just download the latest GTX 980 driver from Nvidia's website and run a simple installer, restarts aren't always required).

[JoJo]

Does streaming and playing games on high graphics count as overclocking ? im not 100% what it means and I have recieved an explaination before but forgive me im very dumbfounded when it comes to PCs and im scared im going to end up being the cause of it breaking just because i have never owned one before

[Revelene]

Messaggio originale di Kill-Cam Celebrity:

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome



Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome

There's no input to give. Sounds to me like the computer's pre-built and will work out of the box.

A few key points:

• 500w PSU. It should be good at default clock speeds, but don't expect a good overclock without the necessary headroom.
  
• H97 MoBo. It's a generation or so old, and not particularly great for overclocking. All the more reason to stick to default clock speeds.
  
• Your motherboard may have wireless internet, but you won't regret it should you use an ethernet cable to directly connect to your router. You'll get much faster speeds that way.
  -4k isn't that card's strong suit. Stick to 1080p/1440p if you want a decent framerate.
  
• That's no all-in-one, so I hope it comes with a separate monitor. If you don't have a monitor, you'll be stuck using the family TV for a bit.
  
• Do NOT try to plug the monitor into the motherboard, unless you love good ol' Intel GMA graphics. Make sure it's plugged into the graphics card.

Unless you bought your computer from NCIX, drivers should be taken care of. I'm pretty sure Nvidia Geforce Experience will notify you when a new driver is available (which is very simple to update, just download the latest GTX 980 driver from Nvidia's website and run a simple installer, restarts aren't always required).

Drivers are taken care of... but for Windows 8.1. Updating to Windows 10 would require drivers to be reinstalled to work properly. Everything you said is on point, except for the driver part. Updating thru GeForce Experience is a no-no and almost always causes issues. Same goes for just running a new driver. Their install process does not remove the old driver completely, leaving traces behind that can cause issues. That is why I recommend DDU. Awesome program.

[Revelene]

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

Does streaming and playing games on high graphics count as overclocking ? im not 100% what it means and I have recieved an explaination before but forgive me im very dumbfounded when it comes to PCs and im scared im going to end up being the cause of it breaking just because i have never owned one before

Overclocking would be like increasing the operating frequency and stuff like that. Without boring you with a long explanation, it is merely changing how fast a part operates.

The only issue that you could run into with streaming would really only be the speed of your broadband connection.

[Space Coward]

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

Does streaming and playing games on high graphics count as overclocking ? im not 100% what it means and I have recieved an explaination before but forgive me im very dumbfounded when it comes to PCs and im scared im going to end up being the cause of it breaking just because i have never owned one before

Overclocking basically means you go into your BIOS and force your processor/GPU to go faster. Just avoid it, you can't do it well on H97 boards anyway and it can cause instability if you don't know what you're doing.

[The.Spaz.]

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

I woke up this morning and saw this my PC is on its way to my house pretty nervous of a breakdown right now :P
This is everything they tell me about the computer.
Processor Type Intel Core i7-4790
Processor Speed 3.6 MHz
Processor Cores 4
RAM 16GB DDR-3 1600Mhz
Hard Drive Capacity 2 TB
Hard Drive Speed (Revolutions Per Minute) 7200 rpm
Optical Drive Blu-Ray Disc Combo
Pre-loaded Operating System Win 8.1 64 bit
Graphics Card nVidia GTX980 4GD5
Dedicated Graphic Card Yes
Video Memory 4 GB DDR5
TV Tuner No
Display
Built-in Monitor No
Audio
Audio Output Rt Speaker; Left Speaker; Central Bass; S/PDIF; Mini Jack
Microphone Input Mini Jack
Line-In Input Mini Jack
Digital Output S/PDIF
Networking
Integrated Wi-Fi 802.11 AC+BT
Inputs & Outputs
Keyboard Yes
Mouse Yes
USB Ports 6 x USB 3.0; 4 x USB 2.0
Card Reader 1 x 16 in 1
VGA Output 1 x VGA (D-Sub)
DVI Output 1 x DVI-D
HDMI Output 1 x HDMI
Other Input or Output Ports 3 x Display Port
Computing Features
System Bus Intel H97
Power Supply 500 W

Basically using it for ARK H1Z1 ARMA III and I would like to begin live streaming taking all those things into consideration how likely is it for me to blow the battery or over heat my pc while playing these games on high graphics and streaming. As stated in an early comment the monitor only uses 23w or so it says

Thank you guys for all this help I really do appreciate it

Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome

So same as you I am building a new PC and I was perusing these forums to get some more advice on the matter. So I came across your post and well that price tag sort of made my head explode. I just wanted to ask what specific task will this computer be used mostly in?

Also I think you may have forked over waaay too much for whats on that build... then again it is a preset as opposed to building from scratch. But take a look at the build I settled on:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F3krgs

I think you would do well to build your own, since you arleady said the PC is enroute I guess its too late for you return it but that for the price you are paying, it should be capable of doing more than whats listed... and I think my build is a much more pf a powerhouse than what you are paying for... I am sorry I don't mean to be an ass but if you are willing to fork over almost 2gs for a PC you could have gone top of the line material...

Okay aside from the negativity, your PC is fairly solid although I am not sure if its worth that price. It will play all games without a sweat so you don't have to worry about your gaming and the processor is powerful enough to allow you to a little bit of multitasking as well. But I am a bit shocked it costs this much for a locked build... if you note the CPU on my build the K after the code denotes unlocked. Meaning you can overclock your PC (your GTX 980 is quite capable) and keep it competent long after it has passed the standard builds. But for the price you bought yours for you could have gotten an entirely future proofed PC that would be able to do 2way sli, 3way sli at a drop of a hat.

If you have any choices, I would get rid of the BD unless you burn and watch a lot of movies on your PC via disc. Blueray is slowly dying out as digital purchase becomes standard on PC, a simple dvd burner would suffice in most cases. As for the powersupply it really depends what sort of games you play, 500w may not be enough for some of the higher intensive games out there... a 600 or a 650w is a good bet for a single GPU.

The GPU can be a little cheaper as the 970 models are still the most popular version of the cards. You could opt out for a TI or a 970 FTW version that will allow you to overclock your games if you suddenly find your GPU failing to meet the specs (not likely in long while) but hands down thats an extravagant price for a average to decent PC builds...

[JamesJB]

I would say if ya can and it will fit upgrade to somthing like 800 to 850w,Might be a little too much but better safe than sorry,at least ya have some wiggle room.

I am getting this and yes its overkill for me but oh well;

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220p21000xr

But for you maybe this;

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cp9020073

In my opinion get somthing that is rated gold on up and try to get partial or full modular.

[The.Spaz.]

Just to give you a better clue about the price difference you are paying this is the first conceptual build I went for and I started paring down the parts depending on what I would be needing in the long and short run.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vyvxMp

This one here is overkill for most things that people want to do today gaming/streaming multitasking you name it. Not only that its over clockable and SLI ready from the start meaning if you want to make sure your PC keeps up to the gaming standards long into the future you can just keep slotting 980s to dual and triple SLI settings (with more ram and high powersupply) to capabilities you will never ever use till you go 4k...

[JoJo]

Messaggio originale di The.Spaz.:

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome



Anybody have any inputs to what i mentioned earlier all are welcome

So same as you I am building a new PC and I was perusing these forums to get some more advice on the matter. So I came across your post and well that price tag sort of made my head explode. I just wanted to ask what specific task will this computer be used mostly in?

Also I think you may have forked over waaay too much for whats on that build... then again it is a preset as opposed to building from scratch. But take a look at the build I settled on:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F3krgs

I think you would do well to build your own, since you arleady said the PC is enroute I guess its too late for you return it but that for the price you are paying, it should be capable of doing more than whats listed... and I think my build is a much more pf a powerhouse than what you are paying for... I am sorry I don't mean to be an ass but if you are willing to fork over almost 2gs for a PC you could have gone top of the line material...

Okay aside from the negativity, your PC is fairly solid although I am not sure if its worth that price. It will play all games without a sweat so you don't have to worry about your gaming and the processor is powerful enough to allow you to a little bit of multitasking as well. But I am a bit shocked it costs this much for a locked build... if you note the CPU on my build the K after the code denotes unlocked. Meaning you can overclock your PC (your GTX 980 is quite capable) and keep it competent long after it has passed the standard builds. But for the price you bought yours for you could have gotten an entirely future proofed PC that would be able to do 2way sli, 3way sli at a drop of a hat.

If you have any choices, I would get rid of the BD unless you burn and watch a lot of movies on your PC via disc. Blueray is slowly dying out as digital purchase becomes standard on PC, a simple dvd burner would suffice in most cases. As for the powersupply it really depends what sort of games you play, 500w may not be enough for some of the higher intensive games out there... a 600 or a 650w is a good bet for a single GPU.

The GPU can be a little cheaper as the 970 models are still the most popular version of the cards. You could opt out for a TI or a 970 FTW version that will allow you to overclock your games if you suddenly find your GPU failing to meet the specs (not likely in long while) but hands down thats an extravagant price for a average to decent PC builds...

I really appreciate all this information ! The only thing is i dont know the first thing about putting together a computer nor do i know anybody that knows how thats why i bought it pre built a couple of people sent me parts that may or may not have been better for a better price but i simply cannot order the parts if i have no knowledge of how to install these parts and i figured its better to not risk it with my first PC.

Thanks again for the input though :)

[The.Spaz.]

Messaggio originale di James JB:

I would say if ya can and it will fit upgrade to somthing like 800 to 850w,Might be a little too much but better safe than sorry,at least ya have some wiggle room.

I am getting this and yes its overkill for me but oh well;

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220p21000xr

But for you maybe this;

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cp9020073

In my opinion get somthing that is rated gold on up and try to get partial or full modular.

I thin anything over 750w is good for intensive PC sessions. You will be able to overclock your PC without fear (make sure you have more than stock CPU coolers though) but the PC really doesn't have any overclocking features so wasting mony on higher power supply might be pointless.

[JoJo]

At the moment im just worried that playing new games like ARK and H1Z1 and multitasking(live streaming) is going to give me problems which i would be pretty upset considering i invested 2k into this pc /

AGHHH all these posts are making me regret the purchase lol

[Space Coward]

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

Messaggio originale di The.Spaz.:

So same as you I am building a new PC and I was perusing these forums to get some more advice on the matter. So I came across your post and well that price tag sort of made my head explode. I just wanted to ask what specific task will this computer be used mostly in?

Also I think you may have forked over waaay too much for whats on that build... then again it is a preset as opposed to building from scratch. But take a look at the build I settled on:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F3krgs

I think you would do well to build your own, since you arleady said the PC is enroute I guess its too late for you return it but that for the price you are paying, it should be capable of doing more than whats listed... and I think my build is a much more pf a powerhouse than what you are paying for... I am sorry I don't mean to be an ass but if you are willing to fork over almost 2gs for a PC you could have gone top of the line material...

Okay aside from the negativity, your PC is fairly solid although I am not sure if its worth that price. It will play all games without a sweat so you don't have to worry about your gaming and the processor is powerful enough to allow you to a little bit of multitasking as well. But I am a bit shocked it costs this much for a locked build... if you note the CPU on my build the K after the code denotes unlocked. Meaning you can overclock your PC (your GTX 980 is quite capable) and keep it competent long after it has passed the standard builds. But for the price you bought yours for you could have gotten an entirely future proofed PC that would be able to do 2way sli, 3way sli at a drop of a hat.

If you have any choices, I would get rid of the BD unless you burn and watch a lot of movies on your PC via disc. Blueray is slowly dying out as digital purchase becomes standard on PC, a simple dvd burner would suffice in most cases. As for the powersupply it really depends what sort of games you play, 500w may not be enough for some of the higher intensive games out there... a 600 or a 650w is a good bet for a single GPU.

The GPU can be a little cheaper as the 970 models are still the most popular version of the cards. You could opt out for a TI or a 970 FTW version that will allow you to overclock your games if you suddenly find your GPU failing to meet the specs (not likely in long while) but hands down thats an extravagant price for a average to decent PC builds...

I really appreciate all this information ! The only thing is i dont know the first thing about putting together a computer nor do i know anybody that knows how thats why i bought it pre built a couple of people sent me parts that may or may not have been better for a better price but i simply cannot order the parts if i have no knowledge of how to install these parts and i figured its better to not risk it with my first PC.

Thanks again for the input though :)

I'd recommend keeping this computer and just upgrading it from now on... assuming you can get inside, of course.

PC building has become increasingly user friendly over the years, and the days of screwing about with sound cards and AGP's are over. In replacing my 280w PSU on this cheap Lenovo prebuilt, I had to completely rewire this thing. The only difficulties are in dealing with poorly designed cases/mobo's and, in some cases, preexisting cable management with hotglue.

Of course, I can't imagine you dropping the PC you just bought for the next six years. Plenty of time to learn how to build, amirite? Anyway, if you're interested in learning how, I HIGHLY recommend these channels on youtube:

LinusTechTips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbDiSMQ_L_k&index=5&list=PL8mG-RkN2uTwlcLU_rv29Gt4578XfgJm_

JayzTwoCents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Q8ksRI1Eo

Gamers Nexus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc0yMoNMwek

PC Perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgwU-pPDzqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v40cbYZ0E5M

Now, back to using the amazing power of 2009 top-of-the-line hardware to play a shooter older than I am!

[Space Coward]

Messaggio originale di 4 Series Express Family Chipset:

At the moment im just worried that playing new games like ARK and H1Z1 and multitasking(live streaming) is going to give me problems which i would be pretty upset considering i invested 2k into this pc /

AGHHH all these posts are making me regret the purchase lol

Your PSU will NOT be an issue. Let's go ahead and go over your wattage:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sFXP99

As you can see, the GPU and CPU only take up 249w... just under HALF of that PSU.

There's no way whatever CPU cooler you have could possibly take up more than 40w, and HDD's/RAM are so small in usage (5-10w) they're not even worth mentioning).

You're not even close to the 400w mark. Your computer's absolutely fine on power.