Nejco Aug 30, 2015 @ 3:04pm
Windows 10 boot problems :(
My PC: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Nejco/

It stared all few weeks ago. PC was working fine. Nothing weird. Next day, it was stuck at logo and didn't want to boot. Tryed system restore and all kinds of stuff and nothing helped. Then once i booted it and it worked again.

Now similar problems are returning. Today during game PC video and audio froze and I couldnt even shut down machine. I cannot boot Win again. However this time im stuck after windows logo with black screen. Safe mode works. I have no idea what the hell could cause this. I never did anything that could mess up windows.

Any ideas what could I try?

EDIT: some weird stuff started happening to screen too: http://postimg.org/image/ts20dqcpb/
So I'm pretty sure my cables and ssd where os is installed are not a problem

Startup repair that I tryed gave me these results:
Startup Repair diagnosis and repair log --------------------------- Number of repair attempts: 1 Session details --------------------------- System Disk = \Device\Harddisk0 Windows directory = C:\WINDOWS AutoChk Run = 0 Number of root causes = 1 Test Performed: --------------------------- Name: Check for updates Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0 Time taken = 0 ms Test Performed: --------------------------- Name: System disk test Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0 Time taken = 0 ms Test Performed: --------------------------- Name: Disk failure diagnosis Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0 Time taken = 0 ms Test Performed: --------------------------- Name: Disk metadata test Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0 Time taken = 15 ms Test Performed: --------------------------- Name: Target OS test Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0 Time taken = 16 ms Test Performed: --------------------------- Name: Volume content check Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0 Time taken = 47 ms Root cause found: --------------------------- The operating system version is incompatible with Startup Repair ---------------------------
Last edited by Nejco; Aug 30, 2015 @ 3:20pm
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rotNdude Aug 30, 2015 @ 3:35pm 
It looks to me like you have a drive issue.
Nejco Aug 30, 2015 @ 4:12pm 
But how? I have never had any problems with SSD (which is less than a year old) and now in safe mode I can access all files. SSD seems fine

Also after win logo my keyboard and mouse stop working (sometimes even monitor). I can tell because otherwise leds would turn on during that time.
deltaagent26 Aug 30, 2015 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by {5H17} C.A.T. Nejc:
But how? I have never had any problems with SSD (which is less than a year old) and now in safe mode I can access all files. SSD seems fine

Also after win logo my keyboard and mouse stop working (sometimes even monitor). I can tell because otherwise leds would turn on during that time.

If you are able to get into safe mode (with networking), reinstall your mobo, gfx card, and audio drivers again. Go to the manufacturer websites if possible and make sure you have the Win10 drivers for mobo/audio (which should include USB drivers). For gfx card the driver needs to be the win10/dx12 version. Also make sure that the update isn't downloading and installing updates. It may take a long time, before you even get to the initial lock screen. When you start up your system, don't do anything until you see the first lock screen, before the login screen. You will still get messages regarding update progress and shuttingdown/restarting etc like you did in win7/8. When I installed, it took nearly an hour and about 5 restarts before I saw the lock screen.

1.) Win10 is currently only in beta, which is why it is being offered for free. You may want to reconsider it, and go back to win7/8 for at least a year.

2.) Win10 is EXTREMELY privacy invasive! It collects data through cortana, edge, and any other bing related program. that information is sent back to MS for targeting ads, for MS, affliates and partners and whoever they sell or share the information with. (in the 2 weeks i had it on my system, it collected over 6GB of data on me. How much of that data was sent to MS I don't know, but that is just way too much! And it eats storage space like crazy!)

3.) All updates are forced! you cannot stop them or even choose which ones you do or don't want. Which means that MS can install whatever they want onto your computer. Change the UI, add or remove programs, or change the way existing programs work, etc.

****4.) Read the EULAs. you no longer have any privacy. you no longer have any control over what MS installs or updates on your computer.

Last edited by deltaagent26; Aug 31, 2015 @ 6:18am
Originally posted by rotNdude:
It looks to me like you have a drive issue.
Test Performed:
---------------------------
Name: System disk test
Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0
Time taken = 0 ms

Test Performed:
---------------------------
Name: Disk failure diagnosis
Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0
Time taken = 0 ms

Test Performed:
---------------------------
Name: Disk metadata test
Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0
Time taken = 15 ms

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while i could be wrong, do quick tests on system disk say otherwise?

as for the OP, maybe a windows KB update is the cause of the error, fixed by system restore prior to date of startup error...

by any chance have you installed these recent updates?
kb3081449
kb3081452
kb3081448

if i'm not mistaken, i got the blackscreen too but only for five minutes as the kb is being installed apparently.
oddly enough, i got two successive automatic restarts with no boot error and successful login into windows 10 pro.
desktop appears sluggish so i turned off some privacy settings and my desktop now apeaars fine...
Nejco Aug 31, 2015 @ 3:44am 
my problem is sadly more complex than yours. i tryed 30 min and stilll black screen. something is terribly wrong.

Originally posted by deltaagent26:

1.) Win10 is currently only in beta, which is why it is being offered for free. You may want to reconsider it, and go back to win7/8 for at least a year.

2.) Win10 is EXTREMELY privacy invasive! It collects data through cortana, edge, and any other bing related program. that information is sent back to MS for targeting ads, for MS, affliates and partners and whoever they sell or share the information with. (in the 2 weeks i had it on my system, it collected over 6GB of data on me. How much of that data was sent to MS I don't know, but that is just way too much! And it eats storage space like crazy!)

3.) All updates are forced! you cannot stop them or even choose which ones you do or don't want. Which means that MS can install whatever they want onto your computer. Change the UI, add or remove programs, or change the way existing programs work, etc.


1. I didn't know that. I did use it since July and then it was really buggy, tons of crashes and stuff. But never such a serious problem that I couldn't start it and use it like now. I thought what I have is finished version as millions downlaoded it

2. I don't care as long as they dont inject ads anywhere. If it's so illegal it's gonna get ban here in Europe. So I'm guessing that's just overreaction

3. I already know how to turn it off. It's fairly easy, you just disable service and that's it. But I don't mind updates, so if they load them I don't care.
Last edited by Nejco; Aug 31, 2015 @ 3:45am
Nejco Aug 31, 2015 @ 5:02am 
Turns out clean install Windows didn't fix screen weirdness, also native resoultion will black out screen. Safe mode still work though.

I don't know what else to do, maybe reset BIOS settings? I'm guessing something is wrong with motherboard

That picture I posted of video weirdness, that's happening also before windows boots (at bios MSI logo). So it must be something deeper than WIn
Last edited by Nejco; Aug 31, 2015 @ 5:56am
Originally posted by deltaagent26:

1.) Win10 is currently only in beta, which is why it is being offered for free. You may want to reconsider it, and go back to win7/8 for at least a year.

Lol... Windows 10 is not in beta, a quick search proves this[en.wikipedia.org].

Originally posted by deltaagent26:
2.) Win10 is EXTREMELY privacy invasive! It collects data through cortana, edge, and any other bing related program. that information is sent back to MS for targeting ads, for MS, affliates and partners and whoever they sell or share the information with. (in the 2 weeks i had it on my system, it collected over 6GB of data on me. How much of that data was sent to MS I don't know, but that is just way too much! And it eats storage space like crazy!)

Welcome to the 21st century. So does google now, so does facebook, so does just using the internet (ever heard of cookies?). Get your tinfoil hats out everybody... If you don't use cortana it doesn't collect info, and who doesn't use adblock anyway?

Originally posted by deltaagent26:
3.) All updates are forced! you cannot stop them or even choose which ones you do or don't want. Which means that MS can install whatever they want onto your computer. Change the UI, add or remove programs, or change the way existing programs work, etc.

Again, not completely true. You can uninstall driver updates if they don't work properly[support.microsoft.com]. I had to do this for my touchpad on my laptop. Also, do you realize how paranoid you sound? -_-

ANYWAY, I had the black screen problem on my laptop when I upgraded. What happened to me is that after the windows logo appeared I would have a black screen for like 5 minutes. Apparently it is caused by the graphics drivers. Do you have AMD graphics? I fixed it by changing a registry key that enables power saving on the GPU according to the instructions here[www.expertreviews.co.uk].

You might not be having exactly the same problem, but you might have a graphics driver issue too. That is what the majority of users upgrading to 10 have had a problem with.
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