EVGA GTX 970 4GB SSC isn't as powerful as it should be.

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So I just upgraded my GPU so my specs are as follows:
RIG SPECS:
ASUS A88X Pro mother board
AMD A10-7850k APU at 4.10GHz
16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM
EVGA nVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB DDR5 SSC
Western Digital 1TB HDD
Corsair CX600 PSU
Corsair H60 H20 CPU Cooler
Windows 10 64-bit

YES, I KNOW MY CPU IS ♥♥♥♥. However, games... especially old games (Rugby Challenge 2, Skyrim, etc...) should NOT studder during game play/game menus/cut scenes. The 970 is MUCH more powerful than the minimum or even recomended GPUs for these games. So, how come Skyrim; I can't complete max out and have a SOLID 60FPS? It'll be stable, but will still dip. Advanced Warfare will studder for a couple minutes after loading the map (go from 60FSP to 33 for a brief second), and Rugby Challenge 2.. the least demanding of all three games, and yet it'll dip during cutscenes and in the game menu. WTF?

[_I_]

of cource the gtx970 cant reach its potnetial when the cpu is not able to give it enough data

try disable the turbo and c1 states in bios and disable the overclock
its most likely overheating or throttling or turbo which only lasts a few seconds til it overheats

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_I_님이 먼저 게시:

of cource the gtx970 cant reach its potnetial when the cpu is not able to give it enough data try disable the turbo and c1 states in bios and disable the overclock

I have an ASUS motherboard, and the UEFI BIOS gives me three options on the main screen: Power Saver, Normal (default) and Optimal. Optimal simply bumps the APU speed to 4.10GHz instead of 3.7GHz. For a while, I was simply using the Optimal setting but just reset it to Normal. I don't manually overclock.

_I_님이 먼저 게시:

its most likely overheating or throttling or turbo which only lasts a few seconds til it overheats

I don't think it's overheating though, I'm constantly reading the temperatures for both my CPU and GPU: idle for CPU is about 26-32C and during gaming 38-45C and the GPU idle is 27-39C and during gaming 40-62C depending on the game, but have yet to see it go higher than 65C if it has at all.

[Space Coward]

What's your VRAM usage? Going into that 512MB partition can cause a lot of stuttering issues, so one of the easiest ways to keep away from stuttering with that card is to stay under 3.5 GB VRAM usage.

Also, I've heard that a lot of redistributables get corrupted when upgrading to Windows 10. For any game giving you problems, you should go into the files and install the redistributables included (usually kept under a folder named something similar to "_commonredist." (the underscore is usually to force it to appear at the top of a folder when viewing it.) I've heard of several cases where reinstalling DirectX 9.0c, DX10, DX11, VC, C++, PhysX Legacy and new drivers, and other such common redist. files will fix your problems.

You should also make sure your video card drivers are up to date, and setting an app to compatibility mode for Windows 8.1 can't be too harmful.

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Kill-Cam Celebrity님이 먼저 게시:

What's your VRAM usage? Going into that 512MB partition can cause a lot of stuttering issues, so one of the easiest ways to keep away from stuttering with that card is to stay under 3.5 GB VRAM usage.

Also, I've heard that a lot of redistributables get corrupted when upgrading to Windows 10. For any game giving you problems, you should go into the files and install the redistributables included (usually kept under a folder named something similar to "_commonredist." (the underscore is usually to force it to appear at the top of a folder when viewing it.) I've heard of several cases where reinstalling DirectX 9.0c, DX10, DX11, VC, C++, PhysX Legacy and new drivers, and other such common redist. files will fix your problems.

You should also make sure your video card drivers are up to date, and setting an app to compatibility mode for Windows 8.1 can't be too harmful.

This. I feel like an idiot now, ahah. I completely forgot about the compatibility mode.
And yes, my drivers are always up to date so that part should be no issue. I'm currently reinstalling all the redistributables from each of the games folders.

[Space Coward]

Capt.Kiwi님이 먼저 게시:

Kill-Cam Celebrity님이 먼저 게시:

What's your VRAM usage? Going into that 512MB partition can cause a lot of stuttering issues, so one of the easiest ways to keep away from stuttering with that card is to stay under 3.5 GB VRAM usage.

Also, I've heard that a lot of redistributables get corrupted when upgrading to Windows 10. For any game giving you problems, you should go into the files and install the redistributables included (usually kept under a folder named something similar to "_commonredist." (the underscore is usually to force it to appear at the top of a folder when viewing it.) I've heard of several cases where reinstalling DirectX 9.0c, DX10, DX11, VC, C++, PhysX Legacy and new drivers, and other such common redist. files will fix your problems.

You should also make sure your video card drivers are up to date, and setting an app to compatibility mode for Windows 8.1 can't be too harmful.

This. I feel like an idiot now, ahah. I completely forgot about the compatibility mode.

Yeah, my game crashed soon after trying to start up the first time on Windows 7 SP1 32-bit. That fixed my problem.

When I recently installed Windows 8.1 on said rig, I immediately set that before playing. I know that Windows 10 also corrupted a lot of redistributables when upgrading to it, which is a pretty minor annoyance once you know what's causing the problems.

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Kill-Cam Celebrity님이 먼저 게시:

Capt.Kiwi님이 먼저 게시:

This. I feel like an idiot now, ahah. I completely forgot about the compatibility mode.

Yeah, my game crashed soon after trying to start up the first time on Windows 7 SP1 32-bit. That fixed my problem.

When I recently installed Windows 8.1 on said rig, I immediately set that before playing. I know that Windows 10 also corrupted a lot of redistributables when upgrading to it, which is a pretty minor annoyance once you know what's causing the problems.

Cheers bro. Thanks! Dumb question: again haha; installing DIrectX 9 from each games redist. folder won't cause overlaping/crashes when playing different games that use different versions of DirectX? For example, if I play a game that uses DirectX 9 and close it and boot up a game that uses DirectX 12, I should be fine right?

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

Yeah, my game crashed soon after trying to start up the first time on Windows 7 SP1 32-bit. That fixed my problem.

When I recently installed Windows 8.1 on said rig, I immediately set that before playing. I know that Windows 10 also corrupted a lot of redistributables when upgrading to it, which is a pretty minor annoyance once you know what's causing the problems.

16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM

16gb memory on a 32bit windows 7?

16gb on windows 10 64bit is more than good...
try using latest nvidia driver or use previous version to get the best possible game play experience...

or let nvidia geforce experience download optimal game profile for every game supported n yout library and see if there is an improvement...

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chiefputsi the poo님이 먼저 게시:

16gb memory on a 32bit windows 7?

16gb on windows 10 64bit is more than good...

Yeah, it's not the fastest RAM I could of gotten, but it's good enough for gaming. It's 1600MHz RAM, but simply running at 1337MHz but I doubt that has anything to do with random studdering or holding my GPU back haha.

I ALWAYS keep the NVIDIA drivers up to date.

But is it my build really that bad?

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

what _|_ is saying is you have a much powerful gpu and a slower cpu, relatively...

reinstalling directx 9.0c will not affect directx 12. it will add missing/upgraded files to windows OS...

is your 1tb WD hdd: green, red, black, or blue edition?

black (game) and red (server) are very good but expensive.
green (data storage) is not good for gaming.
blue is okay for mainstream use...

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Pairing AMD APU with GTX 970 is like letting donkey pull your Ferrari. Save some money and get i5-4690K and Z97 board or i5-4460 and cheap B85 board.

[Rove]

Mae sure your monitor is plugged into the new GPU and not the motherboard, also that it is set as the default GPU in BIOS. There's a chance you are still using integrated graphics.

[76561198135154379]

An A10-7850k paired with a 970 4GB.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. :3

And you said the 970 isn't doing that well? I wonder why.

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Rove님이 먼저 게시:

Mae sure your monitor is plugged into the new GPU and not the motherboard, also that it is set as the default GPU in BIOS. There's a chance you are still using integrated graphics.

With respect, yes it is connected to the GPU. My system is indeed running on the GTX 970.

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chiefputsi the poo님이 먼저 게시:

what _|_ is saying is you have a much powerful gpu and a slower cpu, relatively...

reinstalling directx 9.0c will not affect directx 12. it will add missing/upgraded files to windows OS...

is your 1tb WD hdd: green, red, black, or blue edition?

black (game) and red (server) are very good but expensive.
green (data storage) is not good for gaming.
blue is okay for mainstream use...

It's a WD Blue HDD 64 MB cache and 7200RPM. The ONLY advantage of having a blazing fast HDD is faster loading times. I'm not about to shell out a fortune for that Lol. I'd rather upgrade my CPU (which is way more important)

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Capt.Kiwi님이 먼저 게시:

The AMD A10 7850K is a QUAD CORE CPU (my monitor is connected to the GPU and no AMD graphics drivers are installed, so it's simply working as a CPU) with a stock speed of 3.7GHz and a turbo speed of 4.10GHz. I can safely overclock it to 4.5GHz if I wanted to. My point is, it's no i7 but it's a QUAD CORE with decent speeds. Most games these days won't even utilize 6-8 core CPUs, in fact some run worse as opposed to QUAD core. Old games like Skyrim should be running perfectly smooth.

It doesnt matter because AMD APUs and CPUs have much weaker cores then Intel CPUs.
You cant directly compare AMD and Intel Ghz numbers, AMD quad cores are weaker then Intel i3.