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http://www.technologyx.com/featured/amd-vs-intel-our-8-core-cpu-gaming-performance-showdown/?hootPostID=282b782e2a8d67e68bbb50aeea079e96
http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/58/core-i7-4770k-vs-amd-fx-8350-with-gtx-980-vs-gtx-780-sli-at-4k/index.html
I had a Phenom II x4 940 (AM2+) that I OC'ed to 3.7 (roughly the equivalent of a same clocked FX) on 4 cores. On 1680x1050 for Crysis (maxed settings, DX10 with AA 8x) I averaged 41fps with two GTX 570s in SLI.
After moving up to an i5-4670k that I left running stock and using the same GPUs, I was averaging 67fps.
Metro 2033: DX11, very high, AA 4x, AF6x, PhysX on, no DOF @ 1680x1050 with the Phenom II I averaged 48fps. On the i5 I averaged 74fps.
Just Cause 2: high settings, AA 8x, AF 16x @ 1680x1050. Phenom II gave me 30fps. i5 gave me 65fps.
In my experience, the move from AMD to I5 was well worth it. Going from a FX to an i5, might not net as great of a jump in performance, but should be a good performance jump.
This is a very nice AMD system so I suggest stick with AMD.
Also I'd like to suggest that you can do even better than the FX 8350 on value if you are willing to forfeit the warranty and overclock a FX 8320E. You already have a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO which I'm sure can overclock the FX 8320E to at least the speed of the FX 8350 and probably even some ways past that. Both FX 8320E and FX 8350 are actually the same chip with different factory settings, thus different wattage and a different cooler.
AMD FX-8320E 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd832ewmhkbox
Scan.co.uk £96.98 £96.98+
Amazon UK £99.10 +FREE s/h In stock £99.10
That will save you 30~ to 40~ GBP. You can probably set the base clock to 4.0 GHz, lower Turbo state on 4 cores to 4.3 GHz and upper Turbo state on 4 cores to 4.5 GHz as a easy stable overclock. You can probably even get it higher than that but too much higher will start to stress your cooler and threaten to overheat your CPU I think.
For the 30~ to 40~ GBP you are saving you could get a new cooler like so:
Scythe SCNJ-3100 110.3 CFM CPU Cooler
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/scythe-cpu-cooler-scnj3100
Amazon UK £35.70 +FREE s/h In stock £35.70
With a massive 8 heatpipes and 110.3 CFM airflow this thing is supposed to be amazing and beat a Noctua D14 in maximum cooling performance if not in noise. Of course you'd need to make sure it will fit your case, RAM (in terms of overhead clearance), motherboard and GPU so that it is not obstructing anything like PCIe slot (for GPU) or VRM cooling or RAM, etc..
With that cooler you can probably get 5 GHz (maximum Turbo, baseclock may be set lower) or higher on your motherboard. However you will also need good case cooling and your 550W PSU may actually be the limiting factor here as overclocking draws more power which is why it makes more heat. All that said you might get 5 GHz on your current cooler with a good enough chip and some luck and skill. Still this cooler is way better and will go higher as long as your PSU is able to provide enough power.
The only downside to overclocking a FX 8320E (even just mildly to the level of a FX 8350) is that you lose the 3 year CPU warranty. On the other hand things rarely or never go wrong with the CPU and it's usually the cooling or motherboard that give out first. You can break it from overclocking (but very improbable to break it within safe limits with a good cooler) by way of overheating it. It should not go over 61C core temperature. Get AMD Overdrive and use that for overclocking it. It will let you set both the Turbo states and the base clock. It will also let you monitor thermal margin which is the temperature between current and maximum. High thermal margin is good, low thermal margin means you are close to maximum. Similarly high core temp is bad and low core temp is good. Try and leave at least 10C thermal margin at the hottest temperature your room will be at the hot part of the day in summer. Say 10C at 30 to 35 degrees Celsius is a good margin and then even in a 40C to 45C heatwave you are probably ok. If you have AC in your place you can probably count on that as long as it's always on.
Anyways if you'd maybe end up overclocking the FX 8350 anyways the FX 8320E is cheaper and the same CPU except for the default factory settings. Also fully unlocked for overclock.
If you will not overclock the FX 8350 and the warranty is important to you then get that over the i5 because of the value. The FX 8350 also performs better at 4K resolution.
Go check some 4K benchmarks of Intel versus AMD.
Also by the way. I really do not think you even need to upgrade your FX 6100. Have you even overclocked it yet? With a good overclock I think it's probably still a awesome CPU.
although i do dabble in overclocking im only an amateur. so dont want to rely on overclocking to meet a minimum performance (im still not fully sure if this oc is set up correctly :D)
On your current setup it can probably be pushed to 4.5 Ghz or more, at least on the Turbo.
Your current cooler and PSU are probably the two limiting factors.
Get AMD Overdrive and up the Turbo stats to 4.3 low and 4.5 high and see how it manages in terms of temperatures. If it gets within 5C of thermal margin while doing a 15 minute or 30 minute stress test with the stress test built into AMD Overdrive then pull the plug. If it just crashes or is not stable you may need to increase the Turbo voltages (each done separately) and or or increase the base voltage. Since Turbo is what you will change that's probably what you want to increase in voltage. Do a stress test first though as-is just to make sure the current overclock is stable at 4 GHz, it probably is but that will eliminate that if there is a crash later.
You should also learn to reset your CMOS before you do any overclocking.
You might even be able to get 5 GHz out of your current chip.
A well overclocked FX 6100 should be more than enough for most current gaming needs.
Even a stock clocked one should be enough for now for most people.
The FX6100 is a great overclocker, You should be able to get great oc out of it, I ran my old 1 at 4.8ghz 24/7 for about 3 years on a H100 and temps were great and the performance increase from stock was very impressive..
not sure how you mean to up the turbo stats? so far im just been uping the core multiplier and voltage in that order. with a test between each. so far im at 4.3GHz but the voltage is up to 1.4375v to remain stable. 58'C temp and about 15'c in the thermal margin
I think Rove means in AMD overdrive set the base clock speed to 4.3 and the boost set to 4.5ghz.. Personally I had much better luck with a set clock speed then messing with the turbo feature..
Try and turn it back down to default core and voltage. Then go into AMD Overdrive and fool with the turbo states. There are two. You will need to re-enable them. They can only be enabled when base clock is lower than both or it may crash the PC or cause problems. Also low should always be lower than high. They can be found from a button in AMD Overdrive and then you can switch between them once the window pops up with a little menu at the bottom to select 0 or 1 which are the two states. Whichever was lowest as default is low and the highest default one is high. Set high to 4.5 Ghz and low to 4.3 GHz. Try high on 2 cores and low on 4 and if that works then put high on 4 and low on 2 and see if that works. Once Turbo is set then bump base clock back up to 4 from default. To go higher first put high turbo higher, then low turbo higher then base higher. Repeat until you find your limit.
IDK what you have been looking at to find 58C but I do not think that is core temperature, more likely socket temperature. As far as I know core temperature should equal 61C minus thermal margin. So with 15C thermal margin you have 46C core temperatures. Unless the maximum core temperature on the FX 6100 is higher than 61C. Just take your readings from AMD Overdrive, from what I have learned motherboards are not usually right and take socket temperature. AMD Overdrive takes core temperature per core though and then derives thermal margin.
I think under 1.5V is ok but I'm not totally sure. It may even be able to go a lot higher in voltage (up to around 1.9V) as long as temperatures are low enough. Look it up and ask around. The guy who had his at 4.8 GHz could probably tell you. Also on a better cooler you might get higher at lower voltage because colder stuff conducts electricity better and hotter stuff worse.