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76561199003551277 2021 年 2 月 13 日 上午 8:23
Is Asus H310M-K R2.0 compatible with i3-9100f
Hello, I need help because i want to build my first entry level gaming pc and idk if motherboard Asus H310M-K R2.0 compatible with i3-9100f or i should go with Gigabyte H310M M.2 2.0 if it's compatible, my budget is not high about 300$-350$ you can recommend me cheap motherboard that will be good other things i want to buy are:
Graphics card: Used Rx 570
Processor: Used I3-9100f
Power Supply: : SeaSonic S12II 520w 80+ Bronze
Case: Powerlogic t5x II pro Black
And I am only having problem with the motherboard...
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引用自 r.linder:
引用自 1vKe：
And i also found this on internet:"The GIGABYTE GA-A320M-S2 is known to be an excellent performer by everyone who has it. It is a budget option, but doesn't necessarily perform like one. Many new builders will use this A320m motherboard as the backbone of their computers with a budget processor."
Clearly a reviewer that was paid to say that, because in reality, A320 is just awful for the price while B450 doesn't cost much more, usually around the same price.

Again: No overclocking support for CPU or RAM, horrible VRM that will limit a lot of CPUs, bad RAM compatibility, and probably no access to PBO either which is a huge disadvantage.

引用自 1vKe：
引用自 Escorve：
Avoid A320, it's absolute trash. No overclocking support, ♥♥♥♥ VRM unsuitable for anything more than an APU, lacking in features

No less than B450, the A series chipset isn't worth buying.
U think i am living on money or what?
Your money would literally be better off used on an H410+10100F than an A320+1600AF. This is the cheapest tier of hardware worth buying, so if that's too much for you, you're better off getting a PS5/XBSX.

Granted, the new consoles are going to give a better experience regardless because you're only using an RX 570 which is quite a bit below what the consoles can do.

Tons of people regretted buying A320 in the end, so if you choose not to listen, it's your own fault.
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76561199003551277 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:04 
引用自 Escorve：
引用自 1vKe：
And i also found this on internet:"The GIGABYTE GA-A320M-S2 is known to be an excellent performer by everyone who has it. It is a budget option, but doesn't necessarily perform like one. Many new builders will use this A320m motherboard as the backbone of their computers with a budget processor."
Clearly a reviewer that was paid to say that, because in reality, A320 is just awful for the price while B450 doesn't cost much more, usually around the same price.

Again: No overclocking support for CPU or RAM, horrible VRM that will limit a lot of CPUs, bad RAM compatibility, and probably no access to PBO either which is a huge disadvantage.

引用自 1vKe：
U think i am living on money or what?
Your money would literally be better off used on an H410+10100F than an A320+1600AF. This is the cheapest tier of hardware worth buying, so if that's too much for you, you're better off getting a PS5/XBSX.
I am not the console lover, and yeah i though that b450 is about 110$ xd now i saw that it is 70$, my bad sorry.
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r.linder 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:07 
引用自 1vKe：
引用自 Escorve：
Clearly a reviewer that was paid to say that, because in reality, A320 is just awful for the price while B450 doesn't cost much more, usually around the same price.

Again: No overclocking support for CPU or RAM, horrible VRM that will limit a lot of CPUs, bad RAM compatibility, and probably no access to PBO either which is a huge disadvantage.


Your money would literally be better off used on an H410+10100F than an A320+1600AF. This is the cheapest tier of hardware worth buying, so if that's too much for you, you're better off getting a PS5/XBSX.
I am not the console lover, and yeah i though that b450 is about 110$ xd now i saw that it is 70$, my bad sorry.
Yeah, B450 is usually only a few dollars more than A320 but it offers overclocking for the CPU and RAM, usually allows the use of PBO, has decent enough VRM to max out a 65W CPU, and the RAM compatibility is better because it's a higher tier board from a later generation.

3200 MHz is easy for B450, while A320 struggles with 3000. The only time A320 is really viable is when you're building a home/office PC where performance doesn't really matter, only a working system.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:07
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76561199003551277 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:07 
So will b450m-hdv r4.0 be good, and do i need to do something with BIOS to make ryzen 5 1600 af work?
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r.linder 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:09 
引用自 1vKe：
So will b450m-hdv r4.0 be good, and do i need to do something with BIOS to make ryzen 5 1600 af work?
B450M-HDV R4 will work fine with the 1600-AF. It won't need a BIOS update because the 1600-AF is a Zen+ architecture processor which is natively supported on 400 series boards.

Most B450 boards should even have BIOS updates preinstalled in the factory for Ryzen 3000, if not Ryzen 5000.
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76561199003551277 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:09 
In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgAeqNcrIRc&t=183s (it is on my language) they bought ryzen 5 1600x and used a320m-k that is why i wanted 1600 af and a320m-k with it...
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r.linder 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:13 
引用自 1vKe：
In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgAeqNcrIRc&t=183s (it is on my language) they bought ryzen 5 1600x and used a320m-k that is why i wanted 1600 af and a320m-k with it...
Figures they'd cheap out on the motherboard the most, which is a mistake for Ryzen because motherboard is a key component in how the processor will perform.

Precision Boost and Precision Boost Overdrive depends on the motherboard's voltage regulators to deliver AMD's advertised and expected clocks, and A320 is barely enough to max out a quad-core. It's fine for the R5 1400 or R3 1200, but anything with 6+ cores, forget it, better off with B450.

3200 MHz RAM is ideal for Zen+ chips like the 1600-AF, while Zen chips like the 1600X have a hard time running more than 2933 on most motherboards, and most A320 boards struggle with that as well even with newer CPUs.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:14
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76561199003551277 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:19 
引用自 Escorve：
引用自 1vKe：
In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgAeqNcrIRc&t=183s (it is on my language) they bought ryzen 5 1600x and used a320m-k that is why i wanted 1600 af and a320m-k with it...
Figures they'd cheap out on the motherboard the most, which is a mistake for Ryzen because motherboard is a key component in how the processor will perform.

Precision Boost and Precision Boost Overdrive depends on the motherboard's voltage regulators to deliver AMD's advertised and expected clocks, and A320 is barely enough to max out a quad-core. It's fine for the R5 1400 or R3 1200, but anything with 6+ cores, forget it, better off with B450.

3200 MHz RAM is ideal for Zen+ chips like the 1600-AF, while Zen chips like the 1600X have a hard time running more than 2933 on most motherboards, and most A320 boards struggle with that as well even with newer CPUs.
They said: "Just to make machine work" when they took motherboard.
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r.linder 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:20 
The B450M-HDV R4.0 allows for around 50 amps of current flow with little ambient airflow to the VRM, which is enough for 65W TDP CPUs at stock. It's enough but it's nothing amazing and VRM might become a limiting factor in the CPU's ability to obtain its highest clocks. (A320 is worse than this)

Opting for the B450M Pro4 or B450M-DS3H ramps it up to 75 amps which is enough to max out the 65W Ryzen 5 CPUs like the 1600.
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76561199003551277 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:20 
I am 13 years old (from 2 days ago) and i am dumb u can see it, but isi t hard to update bios, or i just need like something to install from intrnet and unzip it and click it or what?
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r.linder 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:21 
引用自 1vKe：
引用自 Escorve：
Figures they'd cheap out on the motherboard the most, which is a mistake for Ryzen because motherboard is a key component in how the processor will perform.

Precision Boost and Precision Boost Overdrive depends on the motherboard's voltage regulators to deliver AMD's advertised and expected clocks, and A320 is barely enough to max out a quad-core. It's fine for the R5 1400 or R3 1200, but anything with 6+ cores, forget it, better off with B450.

3200 MHz RAM is ideal for Zen+ chips like the 1600-AF, while Zen chips like the 1600X have a hard time running more than 2933 on most motherboards, and most A320 boards struggle with that as well even with newer CPUs.
They said: "Just to make machine work" when they took motherboard.
Yeah, bad policy to follow. The only use that A320 really serves is for systems where performance isn't really a priority, like home and office PCs using the Athlons.
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r.linder 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:22 
引用自 1vKe：
I am 13 years old (from 2 days ago) and i am dumb u can see it, but isi t hard to update bios, or i just need like something to install from intrnet and unzip it and click it or what?
You shouldn't need to update BIOS, and if you don't know how, I don't recommend attempting it.

If the system loses power while a BIOS update is in progress, it will most likely result in a bricked (dead) board because the BIOS is necessary for the motherboard to actually work with the other components. With a broken/corrupted BIOS, the motherboard can't do anything and becomes useless.

To be safe, it's best to not touch it yourself and let a trained professional handle it since they've been doing it for years.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:23
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76561199003551277 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:24 
引用自 Escorve：
引用自 1vKe：
I am 13 years old (from 2 days ago) and i am dumb u can see it, but isi t hard to update bios, or i just need like something to install from intrnet and unzip it and click it or what?
You shouldn't need to update BIOS, and if you don't know how, I don't recommend attempting it.

If the system loses power while a BIOS update is in progress, it will most likely result in a bricked (dead) board because the BIOS is necessary for the motherboard to actually work with the other components. With a broken/corrupted BIOS, the motherboard can't do anything and becomes useless.
Will any b450m-hdv r4.0 bios work with 1600x, 1600 or 1600 af?
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r.linder 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:56 
引用自 1vKe：
引用自 Escorve：
You shouldn't need to update BIOS, and if you don't know how, I don't recommend attempting it.

If the system loses power while a BIOS update is in progress, it will most likely result in a bricked (dead) board because the BIOS is necessary for the motherboard to actually work with the other components. With a broken/corrupted BIOS, the motherboard can't do anything and becomes useless.
Will any b450m-hdv r4.0 bios work with 1600x, 1600 or 1600 af?
Yes, it will work with all 1000 and 2000 series CPUs guaranteed, and may come with a newer BIOS that supports 3000/G, 4000G, or 5000 series processors.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 12:56
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76561199003551277 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 1:00 
引用自 Escorve：
引用自 1vKe：
Will any b450m-hdv r4.0 bios work with 1600x, 1600 or 1600 af?
Yes, it will work with all 1000 and 2000 series CPUs guaranteed, and may come with a newer BIOS that supports 3000/G, 4000G, or 5000 series processors.
Lol for 18$ it gives more, more MHz Ram and what is more btter with it?
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r.linder 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 1:09 
引用自 1vKe：
引用自 Escorve：
Yes, it will work with all 1000 and 2000 series CPUs guaranteed, and may come with a newer BIOS that supports 3000/G, 4000G, or 5000 series processors.
Lol for 18$ it gives more, more MHz Ram and what is more btter with it?
Advantages of B450 over A320:
1. Manual Overclocking support for the CPU and RAM
2. Precision Boost Overdrive support (potentially, depends on board and BIOS)
3. Additional PCi-e 2.0 lanes from the chipset (in case you ever need to add more expansion cards, really)
4. Higher memory support (A320 only supports up to 3200 and often struggles reaching even 3000; 2933 is often the limit which is a problem for newer CPUs, affecting upgradability negatively. B450 boards like the HDV R4 can handle 3200 MHz without problems and potentially higher, like 3600 CL16 which is necessary for 3000 series and newer to get ideal performance)

Ryzen in particular needs faster RAM to perform well because of the Infinity Fabric.
For 1000 and 2000G series, 2933~3000 MHz is ideal, the infinity fabric doesn't benefit from going higher.
For 2000, 3000G, and 1000AF series, 3200 MHz is ideal, going higher has little benefit.
For 3000 and 4000G series, 3600 CL16 is the ideal sweet spot but supports up to 3800 MHz (1900 MHz FCLK)
For 5000 series, 3600 CL16 is also an ideal sweet spot but fabric supports up to 4000 MHz (2000 MHz FCLK)
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 14 日 下午 1:12
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