✪XeonHETRO 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 5:34
IPS vs TN
Do IPS panels have more motion blur as compared to TN panels?
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Autumn_ 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 6:06 
It depends completely on the monitor.

As a whole, IPS displays have slightly more response time, which means they are more likely to blur and ghost.

IPS displays are built good these days, so you will get low response time anyway.
Meaning no matter what you get, it's going to be fine.

Just buy a decent monitor, and you're good.
✪XeonHETRO 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 7:28 
I have around 210$ to spend on monitor and my first and foremost priority is competitive gaming like in CSGO and owwning evryone. Second priority is also gaming but by that I mean playing non competitive games like ac Valhalla, resident evil village etc. What do you say?
_I_ 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 7:31 
blur depends on the pixel response time
20+ms = ghosting with any moving image
<2ms = sharp image with moving objects
r.linder 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 7:47 
TN typically has better response times but that's not always the case. Some good IPS panels can be faster than TN, and there are some horrific TN panels. It depends on the monitor.

To find a really good IPS panel, you'd have to really look for reviewers that properly test the response times, because the advertised response times are misleading since it only applies to when the screen is displaying a single color or shade.

Most 240+ Hz panels are TN.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 7:47
✪XeonHETRO 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 7:52 
引用自 Escorve
TN typically has better response times but that's not always the case. Some good IPS panels can be faster than TN, and there are some horrific TN panels. It depends on the monitor.

To find a really good IPS panel, you'd have to really look for reviewers that properly test the response times, because the advertised response times are misleading since it only applies to when the screen is displaying a single color or shade.

Most 240+ Hz panels are TN.
I am a bit confused between LG Ultragear 144Hz 24 inch TN panel and MSI Optix G242 144Hz 24inch IPS panel.
r.linder 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 7:55 
引用自 Escorve
TN typically has better response times but that's not always the case. Some good IPS panels can be faster than TN, and there are some horrific TN panels. It depends on the monitor.

To find a really good IPS panel, you'd have to really look for reviewers that properly test the response times, because the advertised response times are misleading since it only applies to when the screen is displaying a single color or shade.

Most 240+ Hz panels are TN.
I am a bit confused between LG Ultragear 144Hz 24 inch TN panel and MSI Optix G242 144Hz 24inch IPS panel.
The difference between TN and IPS is that TN looks like crap but typically has better responsiveness, but higher priced IPS panels can be just as responsive if not more responsive than TN on top of having vastly superior visual quality.

At this point, there's only 2 reasons to opt for TN: it's the cheapest, or you're after extremely fast refresh rates and response times that IPS can't do.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 7:57
Agent 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 7:56 
TN looks like washed out crap compared with IPS. I don't notice any difference in anything else.
✪XeonHETRO 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 8:41 
引用自 Escorve
I am a bit confused between LG Ultragear 144Hz 24 inch TN panel and MSI Optix G242 144Hz 24inch IPS panel.
The difference between TN and IPS is that TN looks like crap but typically has better responsiveness, but higher priced IPS panels can be just as responsive if not more responsive than TN on top of having vastly superior visual quality.

At this point, there's only 2 reasons to opt for TN: it's the cheapest, or you're after extremely fast refresh rates and response times that IPS can't do.
Can I get an Ips monitor with responsiveness upto the mark of a TN panel under 230$?
Guydodge 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 8:44 
bottom line here you get what you pay for.ips more accurate colors,slower response times
that you wont notice (5-7ms is fine)
,and backlight bleed and panel glow(these last 2 can ruin a ips monitor LG
is notorious for BLB) still would be my pick,but you may end up in a RMA circle trying to get
an decent one with no to little BLB

TN panels are cheaper with faster response times and much deeper blacks as ips are washed out in the blacks.the colors on TN panels while not as accurate can be more than acceptable
and if you calibrate them can look pretty decent.asus,dell and benq have dialed in their TN monitors.
as far as motion blur that has more to do with the specific monitor be it upper end or lower
end models.

go watch some hardware unboxed videos on youtube they have many videos on budget monitors

最後修改者:Guydodge; 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 8:53
r.linder 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 8:56 
引用自 Escorve
The difference between TN and IPS is that TN looks like crap but typically has better responsiveness, but higher priced IPS panels can be just as responsive if not more responsive than TN on top of having vastly superior visual quality.

At this point, there's only 2 reasons to opt for TN: it's the cheapest, or you're after extremely fast refresh rates and response times that IPS can't do.
Can I get an Ips monitor with responsiveness upto the mark of a TN panel under 230$?
Possibly. AOC 24G2 is a wildly popular budget monitor.
✪XeonHETRO 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 9:43 
引用自 Escorve
Can I get an Ips monitor with responsiveness upto the mark of a TN panel under 230$?
Possibly. AOC 24G2 is a wildly popular budget monitor.
I think since my first priority is competitive gaming I should with a TN panel.
I am thinking about the Lenovo G Series G25-10.
Looks great has 1ms response time, with TN panel.
r.linder 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 10:12 
引用自 Escorve
Possibly. AOC 24G2 is a wildly popular budget monitor.
I think since my first priority is competitive gaming I should with a TN panel.
I am thinking about the Lenovo G Series G25-10.
Looks great has 1ms response time, with TN panel.
Like I said, advertised response times are misleading. They're mostly listed between 1~4ms these days but the ACTUAL response times with games averages around 5ms for TN, 6ms for newer IPS, and 8ms for VA.

There is no monitor with a true consistent response time of ~1ms. The only time it ever gets that low is when the screen changes between two colors (GtG). This never applies to typical usage. It's manufacturers just setting the field for advertising faster looking numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOb523rNBw&
最後修改者:r.linder; 2021 年 8 月 16 日 上午 10:17
nullable 2021 年 8 月 16 日 下午 3:22 
I definitely prefer IPS. I won't buy TN anymore. And for me the benefits of IPS outweigh the benefits of TN. And if you buy a nice IPS, then TN really doesn't have too much advantage on any level. Not one that's going to move me anyway.
r.linder 2021 年 8 月 16 日 下午 4:03 
引用自 Snakub Plissken
I definitely prefer IPS. I won't buy TN anymore. And for me the benefits of IPS outweigh the benefits of TN. And if you buy a nice IPS, then TN really doesn't have too much advantage on any level. Not one that's going to move me anyway.
^
TN is a rather pointless niche because you can get an expensive IPS with fast response times and really high refresh without the ugly look of TN. You just have to pay more, but it's worth it for a better looking gaming experience.

IPS used to be a lot slower but it's usually as fast as TN these days, just about.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2021 年 8 月 16 日 下午 4:04
Autumn_ 2021 年 8 月 16 日 下午 5:28 
引用自 _I_
blur depends on the pixel response time
20+ms = ghosting with any moving image
<2ms = sharp image with moving objects
No, it depends on Hz and response time.
If pixel response time is below the update rate time (hz) then there will be no ghosting. If it's above it whill ghost.

60hz is 16.66ms, 120hz is 8.3ms, 144hz is 6.9ms, 165hz is 6ms, and 240hz is 4.1ms.

So for a 144hz monitor, make sure response time is below 7ms.
(Note, not marketed response time, get the actual number from a reviewer like Rtings.)

引用自 Escorve
Possibly. AOC 24G2 is a wildly popular budget monitor.
I think since my first priority is competitive gaming I should with a TN panel.
I am thinking about the Lenovo G Series G25-10.
Looks great has 1ms response time, with TN panel.
I would argue that a monitor is the most important part of your build, you look at it constantly, doing any task, when using the computer. Buy something good, it'll last you a decade if not more.

引用自 Escorve
I think since my first priority is competitive gaming I should with a TN panel.
I am thinking about the Lenovo G Series G25-10.
Looks great has 1ms response time, with TN panel.
Like I said, advertised response times are misleading. They're mostly listed between 1~4ms these days but the ACTUAL response times with games averages around 5ms for TN, 6ms for newer IPS, and 8ms for VA.

There is no monitor with a true consistent response time of ~1ms. The only time it ever gets that low is when the screen changes between two colors (GtG). This never applies to typical usage. It's manufacturers just setting the field for advertising faster looking numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHOb523rNBw&
Majority of VA panels I've seen are closer to 12ms.

引用自 Escorve
引用自 Snakub Plissken
I definitely prefer IPS. I won't buy TN anymore. And for me the benefits of IPS outweigh the benefits of TN. And if you buy a nice IPS, then TN really doesn't have too much advantage on any level. Not one that's going to move me anyway.
^
TN is a rather pointless niche because you can get an expensive IPS with fast response times and really high refresh without the ugly look of TN. You just have to pay more, but it's worth it for a better looking gaming experience.

IPS used to be a lot slower but it's usually as fast as TN these days, just about.
Though with IPS, you have issues with BLB and glow.
Kind of anecdotal, but recently a friend went through 3 or 4 panels, all from different makers, because they all had horrendous BLB.
A couple were visable in daylight, it was that bad.

So, TN, while it has worse colours, doesn't suffer the issues of poor dark uniformity as badly as IPS.

I just want a viable OLED 'gaming' monitor, best of every world -- great colours, perfect blacks, low response time, and no BLB or glow issues. Should have higher brightness too.
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