---- Oct 22, 2015 @ 9:57am
Got myself a new computer, but having fps problems
Specs are following:

CPU:A8-Series X4 7670K
GPU:MSI 370 gaming 4Gb
Memory:Kingston HyperX 4Gb 512M x 64-bit (4GB) x2 =8GB
Hard:WD Caviar Green WD10EZRX
PSU:Corsair CX Series, 600 Watt, ATX
Colling:Cooler Master, Hyper103
Case:Cooler Master, K280
Motherboard:Gigabyte AMD GA-F2A68HM-S1

I know my SATA hard has 5400 rpm, it isnt best for the gaming, but it shouldnt affect performance ingame much, while I'm interested did I make mistake with CPU?

My configuration before 5 years could handle games far better then this today, also, re-isntalled whole windows 7, drivers updated etc. even my Europa universalis game had 20-30 fps on last computer, while now it has barely 10fps! (every game has low fps)

I'm in real need of help, dont want to think I just threw my money away :( .

Any help? Coz at computer servis I sent PC they said all is well.
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shanqs Oct 22, 2015 @ 10:17am 
You have your monitor plugged into the MSI card and not the motherboard, right?
_I_ Oct 22, 2015 @ 10:41am 
fm2 is a poor gaming platform

the apu is a good match for its gpu, anything stronger will be bottlenecked by the low performing cpu

save up for an i3 or i5 cpu/board

the green hdd isnt helping either, those will casue studdering by themselves, they sleep when idle for a short time and take a few seconds to wake up again
Ensimilia Oct 22, 2015 @ 3:07pm 
X4 7670K - slower than intel i3 :controllerThumbsDown:
MSI Radeon R7 370 - weak gpu for gaming :controllerThumbsDown:
WD Caviar Green - slow 5400RPM HDD :controllerThumbsDown:

I think it would be best if you sell this pc and build an entire new one from scratch. ;)
Or you could keep the case, cpu cooler, PSU, ODD & RAM and only buy a new CPU, GPU & mobo.

Here you go: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wpXs23

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-GAMING 3 Micro ATX LGA1150
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer

Total: $745.56
ee Oct 23, 2015 @ 4:13am 
Something is just not right. Have you entered the BIOS yet and gone over the basic figures? is XMP memory profile setup, or is it falling back to some failsave DDR3 1333 mode?

Your CPU seems to be a A8-7670K (no such thing as an X4-7670K); if you're using the integrated GPU you should be running 2133MHz memory rather than the apparent 1600 MHz; even so you would be getting upwards of 30fps even on 1600 memory if things were working right. If you disable the onboard GPU in the bios and just go with your discrete GPU card then your current 1600MHz memory should be fine. You can also do this from the bios. I highly recommend that you enter your bios setup and check out and go over the basic settings, and especially make sure that and xmp memory profile is selected.

After you're done with the bios, download the latest ATI driver (Catalyst) and run Catalyst. Then confirm under the Information tab that your R7 370 is recognized and running. You really should be getting very good frame rates with a nice card like that and a quad core upwards of 3.5GHz.

What is your motherboard make and model by the way? And if you happen to have it, what is your bios version as well?
Last edited by ee; Oct 23, 2015 @ 4:16am
guipandini Oct 23, 2015 @ 4:53am 
"The Radeon R7 370 is still a 1920x1080 gaming card. Higher clocks help it keep up in today’s more demanding games, but don’t expect ultra presets to run smoothly in every title. If anything, it’s amazing to see AMD’s first-gen GCN architecture hold up so well over time, offering solid value for less than $150."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-3.html

Your GPU seems fine, the CPU (as Centurion pointed out) is quite weak, but for sure should be enough for your GPU...

The hard drive is really a problem, specially being 5400rpm, but the main issue with it is the loading time and some FPS drops (to load textures and another data during the game).

The configuration Centurion suggested is really nice, I would only add at least a 120GB SSD as boot drive (and to install some more demanding games).

Anyway, you should check BIOS settings, ventilation (coolers/case) to avoid thermal throttling, try installing Windows 8.1 (use it in my gaming PC and works really nice, only tested Windows 10 in my notebook, cannot say how it performs in gaming)...

For some reason I think you´re using the on-board GPU, do a complete check on the BIOS and driver settings...

Hope to have helped in something. ^_^
---- Oct 23, 2015 @ 10:27am 
Thanks for the replies people!

I tried plugging into motherboard and GPU slot, to check all and same result. Even turned off in bios IGPU so it must use 370 msi, but i didn't do that xmpmemory thing. I'm getting new motherboard, suspected it to be defective so will try tonight.
If it doesn't work ill go to BIOS and try making something in it.
I Suspect my msi 370 isnt being used.
Will give you input later after picking it up :)
_I_ Oct 23, 2015 @ 12:20pm 
check ccc (amd catalayst control panel) settings and make sure dual graphics (hybrid crossfire) is disabled

enabling it will use both gpus, and the igpu is alot weaker than the r7 370
ee Oct 23, 2015 @ 8:19pm 
unless you're doing weird stuff like mixing all sort of different memory sticks, you really really really should select an xmp memory profile. Otherwise you will handicap the performance to some horrid fallback value for no reason; it's important that the memory sticks get the correct voltage and timing settings.
since you reinstalled windows 7, check if you have also done the following:
1. reinstallation of visual c++ 2008 redistributable
2. reinstallation of directx 9.0c redistributable or runtime
3. clean installation of amd driver for windows 7.
4. reboot.

if you suspect the amd gpu being defective, remove it and use built-in gpu.
if you suspect the green drive being primary suspect, use another drive (7200rpm)

also, if you have extra sata cables lying around, use them.
connect hdd (OS) to sata 1 port location.
Bad 💀 Motha Oct 24, 2015 @ 5:16am 
Running OS from such slow HDD will make everything on system (OS, Games, whatever) super SLOW

And yes R9 370 is around R9 260/265 performance; so not really good for 1080p gaming.
R9 380 would be much better.

Anything below an A10 for AMD is really bad/slow.
You could've gotten a Pentium G3258 or i3 for similar pricing and it would run much better overall. I'd just wipe the WD Green and return it; get a WD Black. They are often on sale nearly same price as Seagate 7200rpm drive model prices.

Clean OS install? Then ensure it is first updated to SP1 and beyond via Windows Updates.
And all your drivers installed; updated; such as AMD Motherboard Chipset Drivers and Catalyst for GPU; from AMD.com

And everything CHIEF said above me here.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Oct 24, 2015 @ 5:17am
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