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Lude Oct 21, 2015 @ 4:37pm

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Hi, thanks in advance for reading this :)
So, anywho, to the issue at hand. I have been getting the issue "Kernel Power 41 (63)". In otherwards, my pc will shut down while playing games and then restart and turn back on as if I hit restart. I checked my pc (built by cyberpowerpc -.-) and noticed my powersupply. It is an ATNG APED 950fc, which concerned me because I have never heard of Atng. After further digging, I found the same one I have going for 20 dollars on Ebay. So, to recap, I am using an 800 watt powersupply that is 20 dollars. Do you guys thats the issue? If so, would you guys reccomend a replacement of the same psu or a full new one like a seasonic or corsair? Thanks!

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ee Oct 21, 2015 @ 4:46pm

Why is the price relevant?

Why do you think there would there be an issue??

Is the max power under the limit, plus some margin (15-20%)?

Make sure the 800W figure is not the peak wattage but the sustained wattage.

The amperage for the 12V channels is the most important. That's where the CPU and video cards get almost all of their power.

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Lude Oct 21, 2015 @ 4:48pm

Originally posted by ee:
Why would there be an issue??

Is the max power under the limit, plus some margin (15-20%)?

Make sure the 800W figure is not the peak wattage but the sustained wattage

Im honestly not quite sure. Its an 800w psu with 80 bronze.
EDIT: here is what I found off a fourm on the same psu
| Voltage | Current | Frequency |

AC input |115V- 240V | 15A-7.5A | 47-63Hz |

DC output |+3.3V | +5V | +12V | -12V | +5Vsb |

| 24A | 30A | 60 A | 0.5A | 3A |

MAX. | 170W | 720W | 6W | 15W |

| 800W |

Last edited by Lude; Oct 21, 2015 @ 4:50pm

˜lokkandload˜™ Oct 21, 2015 @ 5:00pm

Are you currently experiencing power issues that would warrant a need for a new PSU? Or planning to upgrade hardware, or move to SLI, or plan to OC your PC?

Lude Oct 21, 2015 @ 5:03pm

Originally posted by ~Dirt Na$ty~™:
Are you currently experiencing power issues that would warrant a need for a new PSU? Or planning to upgrade hardware, or move to SLI, or plan to OC your PC?

The pc is a few weeks old. I'm not quite sure what the issue is, but Kernel Power 41 (63), I believe, points to a power or thermal issue. Would you reccomend I just replace the psu I have now, or get a new one. To remind you, it goes for 20 bucks so I think its trash.

76561198146916803 Oct 21, 2015 @ 5:04pm

It would be a good idea to replace that PSU from everything I just looked up. That PSU is low quality and changing the power supply helps most with this problem. Their power supplies died after causing these issues for a while.

It seems ATNG makes low quality power supplies for companies like Rosewill and OEMs. Get a nice SeaSonic, XFX or high end Corsair 80+ Gold or better to guarantee a good unit. One thing to try before spending money is use a different power outlet in your house. You can try using a surge protector or if already using one try not using it. The best bet is just get a new and better PSU.

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Lude Oct 21, 2015 @ 5:07pm

Originally posted by green:
It would be a good idea to replace that PSU from everything I just looked up. That PSU is low quality and changing the power supply helps most with this problem. Their power supplies died after causing these issues for a while.

It seems ATNG makes low quality power supplies for companies like Rosewill and OEMs. Get a nice SeaSonic, XFX or high end Corsair 80+ Gold or better to guarantee a good unit. One thing to try before spending money is use a different power outlet in your house or get a surge protector or if already using one try not using it. The best bet is just get a new and better PSU.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. Im thinking about these two: (im using a gtx 970 and i dont normally overclock so u can tell me which is better) 650 Watts - Corsair RMi Series RM650i 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply, and 750 Watts - Thermaltake SMART Series SP-750PCBUS 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

76561198146916803 Oct 21, 2015 @ 5:19pm

The Corsair RMi series is in tier 1 as being one of the best.

Lude Oct 21, 2015 @ 5:24pm

Originally posted by green:
The Corsair RMi series is in tier 1 as being one of the best.

ok cool thanks man u think 650 watts would be good for a gtx 970

_I_ Oct 21, 2015 @ 5:26pm

cx430 can run an i5 and gtx970 build

a good 550w psu can run any single gpu in the i5 build

Lude Oct 21, 2015 @ 5:35pm

Originally posted by _I_:
cx430 can run an i5 and gtx970 build

a good 550w psu can run any single gpu in the i5 build

ok cool thanks

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ee Oct 21, 2015 @ 6:07pm

you have over 700W on the 12V channel. You should be fine unless you have like a monster video card. Unless your CPU and video card use more than 600W on paper you have more than enough margin. You can also get a killawatt meter and read your total system wattage under full load (use a BOINC GPU project for instance to put a full load on).

In my decades of computing I've only had one PS failure and in that failure no harm was done at all other than replacing the PSU. I would not worry about it if you have decent margin for the wattage.

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ee Oct 21, 2015 @ 6:17pm

"Kernel Power 41 (63)" ---is this some sort of error or log message??

Originally posted by Randy Oswald:
The pc is a few weeks old. I'm not quite sure what the issue is, but Kernel Power 41 (63), I believe, points to a power or thermal issue.

It's more likely your CPU is poorly cooled or overheating for other issues (poor case ventilation or you placed your computer right over the air vents in your home).

A good cooler, top thermal paste (arctic alumina or carbon) applied properly, and good case cooling should solve those problems I think.

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Lude Oct 21, 2015 @ 6:34pm

Originally posted by ee:
"Kernel Power 41 (63)" ---is this some sort of error or log message??

Originally posted by Randy Oswald:
The pc is a few weeks old. I'm not quite sure what the issue is, but Kernel Power 41 (63), I believe, points to a power or thermal issue.

It's more likely your CPU is poorly cooled or overheating for other issues (poor case ventilation or you placed your computer right over the air vents in your home).

A good cooler, top thermal paste (arctic alumina or carbon) applied properly, and good case cooling should solve those problems I think.

I didnt build this PC, it was prebuilt and I have a warranty. What should I suggest to them? Plus, its not a good psu anyway so I will replace it and sort out this advice.
Also, I dont have my pc over my house's air vent but i do have it near.

Last edited by Lude; Oct 21, 2015 @ 6:35pm

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ee Oct 21, 2015 @ 7:22pm

Figure out if it isn't he cpu temperature first. In linux there is a taskbar temp indicator, in windows there are programs like OpenHardware Monitor. (just make sure you don't agree to a fake license agreement and install malware when getting such software). I think the odds are 10:1 for thermal reason.

You could also do a test of thermal vs PS by doing full load on CPU without load on GPU. If that is stable while GPU loads cause instability then it would likely be the PS being inadequate.

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ee Oct 21, 2015 @ 7:35pm

Weren't there some threads on other cyberpower problem builds last month? It takes a little bit of skill/following directions to apply thermal paste well; and if you use cheap paste on high powered chips you get bad results. Also, i think chip makers are cutting costs and using marginal stock coolers in some cases; AMD used to have copper cores in their 95W coolers, now I just see plain aluminum bricks (for chips like various A8s and the FX6300) which is a little disappointing.

Between the cost cutting and cyberpower builders I could imagine a build getting messed up there. If you're worried about voiding warranty you could downclock slightly or turn a core off from the bios until the warranty runs out. In the bios there could also be profiles for the fans (both case and cpu fans); the range from quiet/low to high/turbo). Pick the highest fan setting for both fans.

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