Intel HD 4000 better than Nvidia Geforce 610m?

[rich]

I have a laptop that I wanna take it out with me and I'll be gaming on it.
I've been using that laptop for some gaming but a few days ago I found a forum post on tomshardware about this.

I've googled it up and on many websites do showed that the Intel HD 4000 has better scores.
So I've tried to I unpark the CPU and use the iGPU on my proccessor.

I was playing CSGO and I simply got a huge fps boost(from 45 to 55-72). In some physX games I also got some unoticable fps gain. Looking at the results I saw about 4-6 fps gain. The only downside is the loading time. It takes about 16 seconds more to load the game.

The best thing is that since I've turned off my GPU, My laptop is now 6° C cooler. The GPU is almost idle.

So what do you guys think? I wanted to know what's the point of using the GPU if my iGPU is better. I googled it up and I can barely find informations about it as the 610m GPU is an outdated chip. So far I only know the only difference is PhysX effects and the Vram...

[CursedPanther]

Sounds like you've already figured out your preference. If you're satisfied with the performance the Intel HD4000 is giving you, stick with it.

[rich]

Hmm alright then, thanks and cheers! I was posting it because I was freaking out when I saw iGPU outperforms a GPU, and I was not sure about using the iGPU, I thought it might shortens my hardware's life.

[zombie cat]

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Hmm alright then, thanks and cheers! I was posting it because I was freaking out when I saw iGPU outperforms a GPU, and I was not sure about using the iGPU, I thought it might shortens my hardware's life.

nope, as long as you have fast enough ram and a decent heatsink, the igpu will be decent at 720p low-medium settings at 30 fps.

[rich]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Dord:

Hmm alright then, thanks and cheers! I was posting it because I was freaking out when I saw iGPU outperforms a GPU, and I was not sure about using the iGPU, I thought it might shortens my hardware's life.

nope, as long as you have fast enough ram and a decent heatsink, the igpu will be decent at 720p low-medium settings at 30 fps.

Yeah my ram is not so bad it's new, and clocked at 1600. I just reapplied thermal paste on it, removed some dust, and clocked down the speed a llittle bit to prevent overheating, still faster than that 610m lol.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

If u suspect or wish to see if your CPU Cores are Parked; here are easy to use tools for this that make unparking adjustments very simple and easy for any user.

http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/Disable-CPU-Core-Parking-Utility
http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/CPU-core-parking-manager

Overall, in most cases an NVIDIA GPU of some sort will always be a better choice. As Intel HD 4000 and lower have issues with most games, not as much of the case with Intel HD 5000/IRIS series GPUs. But NVIDIA or AMD are better choice for overall DX/OGL compatibility.

[_I_]

for dx/d3d intel hd is ok
but for ogl intel hd falls way behind

gt 610m is a very low end gpu, not gong to be any faster than intle hd at dx/d3d, but ogl will be a huge improvement

[rich]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad-Motha:

If u suspect or wish to see if your CPU Cores are Parked; here are easy to use tools for this that make unparking adjustments very simple and easy for any user.

http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/Disable-CPU-Core-Parking-Utility
http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/CPU-core-parking-manager

Overall, in most cases an NVIDIA GPU of some sort will always be a better choice. As Intel HD 4000 and lower have issues with most games, not as much of the case with Intel HD 5000/IRIS series GPUs. But NVIDIA or AMD are better choice for overall DX/OGL compatibility.

Yeah that's the program I used to unpark my CPU, since I dont have issues with intel on CSGO, I dont think I'll be changing it soon unless I want to play some Nvidia/Amd optimized game.

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for dx/d3d intel hd is ok
but for ogl intel hd falls way behind

gt 610m is a very low end gpu, not gong to be any faster than intle hd at dx/d3d, but ogl will be a huge improvement

I rarely use Open GL and yep intel will my temporary choice. 610m is now the last few graphic cards on the list that nvidia still cares about, it is utterly low-end for PC/laptop platforms lol!

[Bad 💀 Motha]

If the Intel GPU does what u need, then you shouldn't have a problem overall.
If you do go with a dedicated GPU, don't bother unless you are going to get something around; NVIDIA x50 series / AMD R7 260/370 series or better

[rich]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad-Motha:

If the Intel GPU does what u need, then you shouldn't have a problem overall.
If you do go with a dedicated GPU, don't bother unless you are going to get something around; NVIDIA x50 series / AMD R7 series or better

Right. I don't want to do something with the dedicated GPU since it really heats up my laptop, and slow, as you said for now I only gonna use it when it comes to compatibility issues.

I already planned to get an APU system with DDR3-2400 ram for just 300 dollars, it's quite capable for budget gaming, since I mostly play CSGO and Dota 2.
It's going to run csgo above 60 on medium settings, so yeah I'm quite enough with it.
Anyways thanks man, you're the man.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

For mobile; avoid anything with any AMD specs; it's utter junk. And the cheaper systems lack any good cooling what-so-ever.

Stick to Intel CPU/GPU + NVIDIA GPU combination.

Overall the heat is normal when using dedicated GPU; it's fine as long as it doesn't exceed around 90-95*C ~ having it run close to that while gaming is quite normal though, it's designed to handle it.

[rich]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad-Motha:

For mobile; avoid anything with any AMD specs; it's utter junk. And the cheaper systems lack any good cooling what-so-ever.

Stick to Intel CPU/GPU + NVIDIA GPU combination.

Overall the heat is normal when using dedicated GPU; it's fine as long as it doesn't exceed around 90-95*C ~ having it run close to that while gaming is quite normal though, it's designed to handle it.

Yeah I know Amd always have higher temps.I am strict about temps, for anything above 65 is not acceptable. Anyways the APU system I've mentioned is a desktop, I'll be clocking down the speed so it will not exceed 60. I'm not planning a cooling fan because AMD's stock desktop cooler is actually better than intel's so If i'm going for an intel I might consider a fan.
Also my room is small if the system is hot I might turn my room into some sauna.

Here's the specs:
A10-5800k 3.8 Ghz clocked down to 3.5
ASRock Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws 2400 Mhz 2x4 GB
1 TB Barracuda
CX550M PSU

I won't be purchasing a mobile gaming solution anytime soon, because simply it's not effective enough, unstable in performance and expensive. Those gaming laptops out there is good enough to make a cup of hot drink. In fact even if the system is going to handle that, rubbers and plastics is going to melt a bit and the heat will cause your palm to be very sweaty and uncomfortable.
No matter if it's from intel or amd, gaming on a mobile device will not bring me an enjoyable experience.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Intel and AMD mobile stuff (CPUs & GPUs) are fine to run upwards of 90*C

However that's a whole other story with regards to Desktop hardware.
As the AMD desktop stuff pretty much tops out around 65-70*C; where as Intel is fine to around 80-90*C

[rich]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad-Motha:

Intel and AMD mobile stuff is fine to run upwards of 90*C
However that's a whole other story with regards to Desktop hardware.
As the AMD desktop stuff pretty much tops out around 65-70*C; where as Intel is fine to around 80-90*C

Oh? I see. I learn new stuffs everyday. Anyways, for desktops I'm sure most of the PCs without overclocking wouldn't exceed 65 anyway so yeap.