New 1080p build

[blunus]

I'm looking for a good build that would run newer modern games decently. I aimed for 1080p and preferably high settings at least 60 FPS.

Current specs built in 2019:

Ryzen 2600
Gigabyte GTX 1660 Super
ASRock B540 Pro4 motherboard
16GB RAM DDR4 3200 CL16
Corsair 550W PSU
1TB SSD + 1TB HDD

[Julien, cut it out.]

For 60 Hz, I'd stay on AM4 and consider one of the CPUs with the larger L3 cache.
5600X3D (if available), 5700X3D or 5800X3D.
The 5700X3D has significantly dropped in price the last couple of weeks.

At 1080p, depending on the featureset you'd like to have access to, the RTX 4070 or RX 7800XT.

And an NVMe-SSD.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

All you'd need if beefier PSU and GPU

[A&A]

Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:

All you'd need if beefier PSU and GPU

^This

[blunus]

Julien, cut it out. původně napsal:

For 60 Hz, I'd stay on AM4 and consider one of the CPUs with the larger L3 cache.
5600X3D (if available), 5700X3D or 5800X3D.
The 5700X3D has significantly dropped in price the last couple of weeks.

At 1080p, depending on the featureset you'd like to have access to, the RTX 4070 or RX 7800XT.

And an NVMe-SSD.

Thanks for suggestions.

Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:

All you'd need if beefier PSU and GPU

Sure, what's it?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pD8bt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ventus-2x-12g-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-12-gb-video-card-rtx3060ventus2x12goc

Works with your current 550W PSU so just need to swap out the card.
Minimal cost and work boost for 1080p gaming.

[blunus]

Rumpelcrutchskin původně napsal:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pD8bt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ventus-2x-12g-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-12-gb-video-card-rtx3060ventus2x12goc

Works with your current 550W PSU so just need to swap out the card.
Minimal cost and work boost for 1080p gaming.

Is that really good pairing? Will my CPU bottleneck that GPU it can't go further on high settings?

[smokerob79]

you can have a field day with this!!!!!.......first off what is the budget??? are you in the US, UK Europe???

new platform is best as gains made in 5 years have been worth the upgrade.....but on the flip side you could upgrade for super cheap if your OK with used working parts......

current system would do fine with a 3700x and 3070 upgrade that would be drop in options without new mother memory or PSU change and only cost 400 bucks buying from EBAY......

new system would be a 7700x CPU with 7800xt GPU that would last for at least 5 years at 1080p......but this will be a 1000 dollars plus even using your current case and storage drives .......

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

blunus původně napsal:

Rumpelcrutchskin původně napsal:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pD8bt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ventus-2x-12g-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-12-gb-video-card-rtx3060ventus2x12goc

Works with your current 550W PSU so just need to swap out the card.
Minimal cost and work boost for 1080p gaming.

Is that really good pairing? Will my CPU bottleneck that GPU it can't go further on high settings?

There wont be any significant bottleneck there, decent enough match.

[Julien, cut it out.]

The Ryzen 5 2600 does not offer enough performance to sustain 60 FPS average in recent game releases.
You're better off with a CPU upgrade and one of the Ryzen 5000 series. Depending on your budget, look at the Ryzen 5600 or one of the 3D parts.

The same is valid for the RTX 3060 in graphically demanding games. You won't achieve 60 FPS without dropping some settings.

I recommend the RX 7700 XT at around 400 USD[pcpartpicker.com]. It offers more than enough performance for 1080p and has 12 GB of VRAM.

If budget is limited, consider the RX 7600 XT.

You don't need to spend money on a new PSU with the suggested components.

[Chaosolous]

Bad 💀 Motha původně napsal:

All you'd need if beefier PSU and GPU

[lailaamell]

Julien, cut it out. původně napsal:

For 60 Hz, I'd stay on AM4 and consider one of the CPUs with the larger L3 cache.
5600X3D (if available), 5700X3D or 5800X3D.
The 5700X3D has significantly dropped in price the last couple of weeks.

At 1080p, depending on the featureset you'd like to have access to, the RTX 4070 or RX 7800XT.

And an NVMe-SSD.

3060 will not cut it anymore i would say 3070 for midr range 1080p

[Tonepoet]

Yeah, a 2600 doesn't cut it anymore folks. It's at the 6 year old mark, so it's time for an upgrade on that just based on a typical P.C. upgrade cycle alone[www.pcworld.com]. You don't want to be running the same old hardware forever if not only because of electrical efficiency.

You're looking at more like a Ryzen 3600 with an Intel Arc A750 to play Hogwarts Legacy at 1080p 60 F.P.S. high settings[www.hogwartslegacy.com] per the system recommendations, so you're aiming for at least that much and upgrading to at least a Ryzen 5 5500[www.techspot.com] if you were building against that. Most popular games are like Hogwarts Legacy, but there are some much more demanding games these days like Alan Wake Ⅱ which wants a 3700x and an rtx 4070 for 60 F.P.S. high.

You are really looking at Alan Wake Ⅱ being more representative of the future of 1080p video games, so you'd build against that if anything.

I'd say pick up these components:

• Ryzen 5600x[www.amazon.com] $124
  
• Powercolor Fighter RX 6750 XT 12gb[www.amazon.com] $300
  
• 650 watt G. Skill power supply[www.microcenter.com] $50

The cost of those three components is $474.

You might also want a R.A.M. upgrade if you don't have at least 16 gigabytes. A 16 gig kit will cost you $28[www.amazon.com] though you might just want to go ahead and buy 32 gigs for $48[www.amazon.com] since D.D.R. 4 is on its way out.

We're looking at the final cost of the upgrade being $502-$522 if you want to buy either of those R.A.M. kits.

[Chaosolous]

lailaamell původně napsal:

Julien, cut it out. původně napsal:

For 60 Hz, I'd stay on AM4 and consider one of the CPUs with the larger L3 cache.
5600X3D (if available), 5700X3D or 5800X3D.
The 5700X3D has significantly dropped in price the last couple of weeks.

At 1080p, depending on the featureset you'd like to have access to, the RTX 4070 or RX 7800XT.

And an NVMe-SSD.

3060 will not cut it anymore i would say 3070 for midr range 1080p

That's not true at all.

There's a few GTX cards that still handle 1080p ultra just fine.

A 3060 is more than enough for a 60FPS 1080p Ultra Settings setup.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Julien, cut it out. původně napsal:

The Ryzen 5 2600 does not offer enough performance to sustain 60 FPS average in recent game releases.
You're better off with a CPU upgrade and one of the Ryzen 5000 series. Depending on your budget, look at the Ryzen 5600 or one of the 3D parts.

The same is valid for the RTX 3060 in graphically demanding games. You won't achieve 60 FPS without dropping some settings.

I recommend the RX 7700 XT at around 400 USD[pcpartpicker.com]. It offers more than enough performance for 1080p and has 12 GB of VRAM.

If budget is limited, consider the RX 7600 XT.

You don't need to spend money on a new PSU with the suggested components.

RX 7600 XT and 7700 XT are rubbish. 7700 XT is too gutted compared to significantly better 7800 XT and way too expensive for what you get for this price.
7600 XT is too weak to be 16 GB VRAM card and too weak for the price.
Decent AMD 7000 series cards start with 7800 XT and everything below that is basically rubbish and borderline lazy scam compared to 6000 series offerings.

6700 XT, 6750 XT and 6800 are decent and balanced cards if you can get them cheap in your location but unlike with RTX 3060 you would need PSU upgrade.

[Tonepoet]

Chaosolous původně napsal:

lailaamell původně napsal:

3060 will not cut it anymore i would say 3070 for midr range 1080p

That's not true at all.

There's a few GTX cards that still handle 1080p ultra just fine.

A 3060 is more than enough for a 60FPS 1080p Ultra Settings setup.

First, I'm not too terribly surprised by that because pascal was considered such a large upgrade over Maxwell and Nvidia is considered as having rationed out the upgrades since then. This generation of graphics cards are even considered somewhat of a regression in some ways relative to the same tier parts. The RTX 4060 for example is restricted to 8 gigabytes vs. 12 gigabytes of V.R.A.M., and has lower bandwidth compared to the 3060.

The 1080 ti in particular held up very, very well over the years and you could've basically gone all of this time without getting an upgrade and still have a relevant amount of performance. It's roughly equivalent to a 3060.

Second, 1080p ultra is kind of meaningless if you don't specify which games. If we're talking about a softball game like Baldur's Gate Ⅲ then yeah, sure, it shall easily exceed 1080p 60 even on ultra settings. We're talking about the 3060 getting 81 frames, and the 1080 ti getting 86 frames in that particular game per Tech Yes City results.

However, there has been a rather large spike upwards in terms of the requirements for some games lately, starting with Starfield. Starfield lists a 1070 ti with a 3600x as its minimum requirement. Minimum usually means 1080p 30 lowest settings based on the spec. sheet charts I've been seeing. Recommended spec. is more along the lines of an RX 6800 XT or an RTX 2080 and recommended is more like 1080p 60

A 1080 ti is looking more like it hits 1080p 40 on high settings in Starfield. The 1080 ti is the top of the line 1000 series card, so if we're looking at games like Starfield and Alan Wake Ⅱ setting the new standard for the upcoming generation of graphics card, then you're going to want to aim a bit higher.

You're looking at a 4070 tier card being your target point to hit those results in the more demanding games, but the 4070 is just such a bad deal compared to the 4070 super or the 7900 G.R.E. that you're probably either going to want to buy up from that or down from that.

The 7800 XT is a better choice than the 4070, since I don't think you want to take advantage of ray tracing unless you have at least a 4070 super anyway. The 7800 xt is a bit cheaper than a 4070 and hits around that same performance tier in rasterization performance.

The problem with it is, it's not really much of an upgrade over the RX 6800 xt.[gamersnexus.net] It does outperform on average, but the wins are inconsistent and the overall average perf. gain is rather low relatively speaking. Given that the 6800 xt is about 20% cheaper, you'd be better off buying that.

Thing is that the 6750 XT is another 20% or so cheaper than the 6800 xt and as a refresh card, it kind of helps to close the gap between itself and the next tier up. At 1080p I also don't think you benefit from much more than 12 gigs of V.R.A.M. Games are just starting to struggle with 8 gigs, so I think you have a fair enough amount of buffer with 12 gigabytes of V.R.A.M. if you're only playing at 1080p.

The RX 6600 is more along the lines of a 3060, and the 6700 xt proper has poor availability, and it isn't quite as strong as the 6750, at least, out of the box (you might be able to tune the 6700 to match the 6750). So I think the 6750 is basically the sweet spot, and if you wanted to spend much more, that you'd just skip straight up to the 7900 G.R.E. as the next best price to perf. bump up for graphics card performance.

But then I think you're looking at buying more like a 5700x as the complimentary C.P.U. and what you end up with is a system that's overkill for 1080p 60 high.

The cheapest 7800 xt you're getting right now per P.C. Part Picker U.S. market prices is $470[www.amazon.com]

When we look at results from Daniel Owens' comparison of the 6800, the 6800 xt and the 7800 XT we see Starfield as being perhaps the most demanding game he tests based on the 1080p results and he gets the following results at 1080p ultra:

RX 6800: 63 F.P.S.
6800 XT: 75 F.P.S.
7800 XT: 78 F.P.S.

Keeping in mind that we're only aiming to hit 60 F.P.S. on high, rather than ultra, all three cards overshoot our target perf if we use a demanding game like Starfield as our basis of comparison. We can perhaps chance going with a lower tier card in the interest of saving some money. But not much lower for a couple of reasons.

The first is that we want at least 12 gigabytes of V.R.A.M. not only to match the RTX 3060, but also because we're starting to hit the limits of what cam be accomplished with 8 gigs. at 1080p.

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