Dangers of water cooling

[Zyenu]

Hello I'm putting together a new pc. I've always used air cooling in all my pcs so far. The thing is I'm getting a i9 14900k next and even with intel's fix supposedly it can heat up pretty good, especially considering I'm getting samsungs OLED Odissey ultra wide monitor. I've never used water cooling, I understand it is better but I've no clue how to maintain it or what signs to look for that something is wrong.
My question is should I just stick to air cooling with a top tier air cooler paired with my 4 noctua MFA12 and NFA14 fans? Thanks

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

the danger water of cooling is age ago, when ppl DIY stuff, rightnow Water Cooling is safer and just plug and play, and no maintain.

if your TDP higher than 65Watt, no air cooling can hold that bad boy Temp in check

*just you need to know where to put your Pump rightly, and sometimes you get bad pump who noisy as fork

[The_Abortionator]

Originally posted by FatCat:

the danger water of cooling is age ago, when ppl DIY stuff, rightnow Water Cooling is safer and just plug and play, and no maintain.

if your TDP higher than 65Watt, no air cooling can hold that bad boy Temp in check

*just you need to know where to put your Pump rightly, and sometimes you get bad pump who noisy as fork

What? Did you say 65w?

You're joking right? With air coolers doing 220W of cooling capacity and you think 65W is unmanageable?

Dude, read stuff....... go learn....

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

i see benchmark, as simple as that

[The_Abortionator]

First off why in gods green earth are you buying Intel? No really, why?

Not only are those CPUs flawed with no guaranteed fix that we know of but they also generate 3~5x as much heat and energy use as AMD alternatives that beat them. How does such fanboyism exist?

Also no, air coolers CANNOT be used on those CPUs as they literally throttle them.

[Guydodge]

AIO's are very safe and honestly the 14900k doesnt run all that hot under normal use
or gaming.you could get away with hanging a giant air cooler off your M.B and it would
do the job.ive always ran AIO and have yet to have a noisy one.if you want the best go AIO.
but air cooling will do the job if your worried.

[Zyenu]

Originally posted by The_Abortionator:

First off why in gods green earth are you buying Intel? No really, why?

Not only are those CPUs flawed with no guaranteed fix that we know of but they also generate 3~5x as much heat and energy use as AMD alternatives that beat them. How does such fanboyism exist?

Also no, air coolers CANNOT be used on those CPUs as they literally throttle them.

I read up on the pros and cons somewhat intel is still superior apparently and still used in the majority of pcs. I also read on the patches made and the problem was in the bios units already in use cannot take the damage back new parts using the bios update have worked fine. But not really what I came to discuss.

[Guydodge]

Originally posted by The_Abortionator:

First off why in gods green earth are you buying Intel? No really, why?

Not only are those CPUs flawed with no guaranteed fix that we know of but they also generate 3~5x as much heat and energy use as AMD alternatives that beat them. How does such fanboyism exist?

Also no, air coolers CANNOT be used on those CPUs as they literally throttle them.

your loaded with miss information ...lmao

[Zyenu]

Originally posted by FatCat:

the danger water of cooling is age ago, when ppl DIY stuff, rightnow Water Cooling is safer and just plug and play, and no maintain.

if your TDP higher than 65Watt, no air cooling can hold that bad boy Temp in check

*just you need to know where to put your Pump rightly, and sometimes you get bad pump who noisy as fork

I just pick the parts, a tech store is putting it together so I can have someone responsible for poor assembly for up to 3 years. I read that you still need to watch out for leaks and do maintenance. Seems a bit like a hindrance especially since I'm not really sure how to maintain water cooling.

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

Originally posted by Zyenu:

Originally posted by FatCat:

the danger water of cooling is age ago, when ppl DIY stuff, rightnow Water Cooling is safer and just plug and play, and no maintain.

if your TDP higher than 65Watt, no air cooling can hold that bad boy Temp in check

*just you need to know where to put your Pump rightly, and sometimes you get bad pump who noisy as fork

I just pick the parts, a tech store is putting it together so I can have someone responsible for poor assembly for up to 3 years. I read that you still need to watch out for leaks and do maintenance. Seems a bit like a hindrance especially since I'm not really sure how to maintain water cooling.

iam not say the chinese off-brand could leaked, BUT as long you buy the respective brand, you will not have that problem, there always unlucky one when buying PC parts, some CPU dead on arrival, some Motherboard have weirdly noisy coil whine,AIO some noisy Pump, but it wll never be a leak liquid, but maybe you be the first lawl.

AND no maintain, i only maintain when why my Pump noisy as fork, so bring it to the vendor, they service it, and no more noisy, thats all

[Zyenu]

Originally posted by FatCat:

Originally posted by Zyenu:

I just pick the parts, a tech store is putting it together so I can have someone responsible for poor assembly for up to 3 years. I read that you still need to watch out for leaks and do maintenance. Seems a bit like a hindrance especially since I'm not really sure how to maintain water cooling.

iam not say the chinese off-brand could leaked, BUT as long you buy the respective brand, you will not have that problem, there always unlucky one when buying PC parts, some CPU dead on arrival, some Motherboard have weirdly noisy coil whine,AIO some noisy Pump, but it wll never be a leak liquid, but maybe you be the first lawl.

AND no maintain, i only maintain when why my Pump noisy as fork, so bring it to the vendor, they service it, and no more noisy, thats all

Hum 2 of my cousing also claim they do 0 maintenance on theirs and they have no issues. If I were to invest in some It would be of a respectable brand, like corsair or asus. The thing that scares me is that with air cooling I risk shortening the life of a 500€ish CPU with heat surges (probably most during summer), with water cooling I risk everything else including the graphics card which costs the better half of almost 3k €

[The_Abortionator]

Originally posted by Zyenu:

Originally posted by The_Abortionator:

First off why in gods green earth are you buying Intel? No really, why?

Not only are those CPUs flawed with no guaranteed fix that we know of but they also generate 3~5x as much heat and energy use as AMD alternatives that beat them. How does such fanboyism exist?

Also no, air coolers CANNOT be used on those CPUs as they literally throttle them.

I read up on the pros and cons somewhat intel is still superior apparently and still used in the majority of pcs. I also read on the patches made and the problem was in the bios units already in use cannot take the damage back new parts using the bios update have worked fine. But not really what I came to discuss.

You didn't weigh the pros and cons. Fanboys say its superior, benchmarks, games, and reality say other.

Tell me, if the 7800x3d is the worlds best gaming CPU how is intel superior?

If the 7950x and 7950x3d are also up there not sucking up to 400w, requiring exotic cooling for even a change to see clocks that give you advertised performance (which numbers are now invalid as the "fix" lowers performance) how is Intel still superior?

Like, the 7950x and the 14900k were neck in neck in gaming and other tasks trading blows (with AMD using less power) and now the "fix" lowers the 14900k's performance by 7% with the AMD update to Windows increasing their performance by about that much or more then no Intel is not superior.

[The_Abortionator]

Originally posted by Zyenu:

Originally posted by FatCat:

iam not say the chinese off-brand could leaked, BUT as long you buy the respective brand, you will not have that problem, there always unlucky one when buying PC parts, some CPU dead on arrival, some Motherboard have weirdly noisy coil whine,AIO some noisy Pump, but it wll never be a leak liquid, but maybe you be the first lawl.

AND no maintain, i only maintain when why my Pump noisy as fork, so bring it to the vendor, they service it, and no more noisy, thats all

Hum 2 of my cousing also claim they do 0 maintenance on theirs and they have no issues. If I were to invest in some It would be of a respectable brand, like corsair or asus. The thing that scares me is that with air cooling I risk shortening the life of a 500€ish CPU with heat surges (probably most during summer), with water cooling I risk everything else including the graphics card which costs the better half of almost 3k €

Soft tubing doesn't hold the risks that hard tubing does so theres that. But also yeah, no real maintenance.

But no, liquid cooling doesn't magically leak. I've been doiing custom looks for almost a decade now with no leaks, no maintenance. I use pump coldplate combos from the likes of barrow but may get a lobo later.

But again though even on 360mm rads people have gaming temps that can range in the 80s/90 on Intel chips so water won't really keep your CPU that much safer than air if you're looking for longevity.

[Paraskeet]

do you want to game only on your pc? air cooling would be fine because you can set your 14900k to 65w to 95w powerlimit and have similar performance

want to oc memory to 8000? better delid cpu and do on die watercooling

i got a similar pc right now with hard limit for power and v of my 14k cpu. don't need more than my thermal right aircooler

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

if you want little heat and maximum fps possible get a 7800X3D
also you're more likely to find gold on the street than have your cooler leak on you lol

[skOsH♥]

Water cooling is definitely safer to do now, at least, if you buy an "all in one". It's difficult to get a hole in the radiator or bad tubing if you look for quality made tubing.

Custom water loops are still riskier, but they're fine. I just don't trust the type of tube/plastic most often used. I think it's too at risk of slipping over time

If you really want to be safe then just have an aio and then another aio when you upgrade as a backup. The water isn't going to evaporate in there any time soon.

I still have an old 120mm water aio. Shake it, still hear roughly the same amount of water as I did when I first got it.

I just need a 360mm rad in order to handle cooling newer processors