Is my system good enough for a 4070 Super?

[Chugster]

Just wanted to check I wouldnt be bottlenecking myself if I upgrade from a 2080Ti to a 4070 Super.

My specs are:

Ryzen 9 3900X, 12 cores @ 3.8Ghz
32Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz
Asus Prime B450-Plus motherboard

I am pretty sure I will be fine but my PC is 4 years old so I wanted to check before buying anything

[smokerob79]

truth....CPU side is a little weak....I had a 3700x with a 3080 and upgraded to a 5700x.....system is almost balanced now with me being able to hit 98% usage on CPU and GPU at the same time......

it will play but your going to have a lot of stuttering.....most of the 3000 series used chiplets and you have 2 with a shared cache....the cross talk between the chipllets will cause micro stutters and hitching in game.....the 5700x did not give me much of a performance gain but getting rig of the micro stutter alone was worth the 175 bucks for me....and i sold off the 3700x for 120 making the upgrade cost me 50 dollars.....FYI the 5700x has a single chiplet and not 2.....so no cross talk problems....

[r.linder]

CPU will bottleneck the 4070 SUPER a fair bit, it's capable of bottlenecking the 2080 Ti as it is, even at 2160p resolution in some games like old CS:GO, it's more or less the limit of what your CPU can handle, that I can attest to because I had a similar machine once, I went from a 3900X to a 10850K with the same GPU and still found very noticeable increases in gaming performance.

If you're only gaming, get a 5800X3D, otherwise get a 5900X or 5950X

[andreasaspenberg575]

i am not sure if your cpu will bottleneck your gpu. your cpu is a beast. it have 24 threads. it is more powerful than the cpu in the xbox series x which only have 16 threads. here is my suggestion: try it out. if you get a bottleneck, you can always move your graphics card to a new motherboard later.

[AbedsBrother]

Cpu will definitely hold you back if you're targeting high refresh rates. If 60fps is your goal you probably won't notice.

[andreasaspenberg575]

performance is game specific. you would only get bottlenecked if one component is too weak. different games have different loads. your current hardware is strong enough for some games. final fantasy 15 for example would not bottleneck your cpu even with an rtx 4070 super. that game have serious ram and gpu bottlenecks on your current hardware however. i am however shocked at all of the trolling in this topic.

[Chugster]

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

Cpu will definitely hold you back if you're targeting high refresh rates. If 60fps is your goal you probably won't notice.

Well I only have a 1440p monitor, and I am an old fart so 60fps is all that i need.

So what I am getting is that if I dont try to run at 4k at 144fps I should be ok?

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Chugster:

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

Cpu will definitely hold you back if you're targeting high refresh rates. If 60fps is your goal you probably won't notice.

Well I only have a 1440p monitor, and I am an old fart so 60fps is all that i need.

So what I am getting is that if I dont try to run at 4k at 144fps I should be ok?

60 FPS is a bit of waste of a 4070 Super in most games, you would be fine for years with just a 4070, 7800-XT, etc.

I would not waste the money on a higher model GPU if you're not going to increase your refresh rate or resolution

[andreasaspenberg575]

your current gpu can easily handle 144 hz. mine can and i also have an rtx 2080 ti. i am not sure wether your monitor can however. frequenncy is monitor and cable specific. though also limited by your gpu.

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by Chugster:

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

Cpu will definitely hold you back if you're targeting high refresh rates. If 60fps is your goal you probably won't notice.

Well I only have a 1440p monitor, and I am an old fart so 60fps is all that i need.

So what I am getting is that if I dont try to run at 4k at 144fps I should be ok?

Pretty much. Might get some issues if there are lot of objects on-screen, but modern games are good at using multiple cpu cores, and the 3900X has plenty of cores / threads.

Not contradicting the others in this thread - the 4070 Super is capable of more performance at 1440p, and you should upgrade your cpu at some point. But if 1440p 60fps is your goal a cpu upgrade is not an immediate need.

[r.linder]

Core performance matters more than the number of cores, you can have two CPUs with the same core count but vastly different performance between them. But yes, for 60 FPS caps, it doesn't matter in this case because 1440p 60 FPS is not a difficult thing to pull off anymore.

[Kobs]

Originally posted by Chugster:

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

Cpu will definitely hold you back if you're targeting high refresh rates. If 60fps is your goal you probably won't notice.

Well I only have a 1440p monitor, and I am an old fart so 60fps is all that i need.

So what I am getting is that if I dont try to run at 4k at 144fps I should be ok?

Definitely

[xSOSxHawkens]

So many peeps here talking about it not being good enough, few that have a 3900x lol.

As someone with a comparable GPU (6900xt which is typically within 5FPS above or below the 4070s in many titles) and also has both a 3900x and 5950x (and 5600x GT) I can say you will be fine.

Originally posted by Chugster:

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Well I only have a 1440p monitor, and I am an old fart so 60fps is all that i need.

So what I am getting is that if I dont try to run at 4k at 144fps I should be ok?

Even more so if all you target is 1440p/60 or 4k/60.

I have used my 3900x (and in fact am using it r/n as my 5950x is being RMA'd) for both 1440p/165 and 4k/60 and it does great. There are a very few titles where the 3900x struggles to hit 165fps but those are few and far between and were not the reason for my upgrade to the 5950x. And in most games the 3900x still outperforms the 5600x GT even if it has slightly faster IPC, simply from lack of cores now days which (contrary to what anyone here says) do matter in modern titles.

If you have any questions feel free to drop me a FR and DM and I would be happy to do some testing on the 3900x for you with my 6900xt, which again is spot on performance wise for the AMD comparable to the 4070s. Since I have it in service right now it would be easy to put some numbers up for you in any game I own.

If yuu *are* worried it might hold you back jump to the 5800x 3D which is good for anything up to and including the 4090 (my best friend runs that exact combo) or jump to the 5950x which is down to like ~350 and is also a great gaming chip, if a bit overkill just for games. Both should be a drop in upgrade for you.

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by Chugster:

Just wanted to check I wouldnt be bottlenecking myself if I upgrade from a 2080Ti to a 4070 Super.

I mean, you're always going to have a bottleneck. Every system always does. If we didn't, we'd have infinite performance. But because we don't have infinite performance, bottlenecks are a thing.

Instead of worrying if they exist, worry only if you have performance below what you desire. If you do, that is the only time identifying a bottleneck actually matters, because you need to know which part to upgrade when you want more performance.

With a Zen 2 CPU, an RTX 4070 will be held back, but it's not enough in my mind to matter for GPU reliant things. Especially for 60 FPS. It would be more of a limitation for CPU reliant things, but that would also already be the case for your existing RTX 2080 Ti anyway, so... nothing changes really.

The point of an upgrade is to improve performance, not remove bottlenecks. It will do the first one, and you can't achieve the second one.

If you decide you want more performance later that the CPU is responsible for holding back, you can upgrade to either a 5700X3D or do a platform overhaul (somewhat bad timing for this one though with the 7800X3D being a bit overpriced, and LGA 1851 and Zen 5 X3D coming soon).

[Guydodge]

this is with a 4080 so im going with your fine.depending on what your card is now
say a 1080ti or 3060 you should see a nice boost

https://youtu.be/boPD0qh0g4Y

[St✩rlight]

Don't pay attention to the bottleneck sites, they are garbage. The best thing to do is to use your GPUs built-in metrics system. so you can see clearly how hard your GPU and CPU are working against eachother.