PS5 Pro VS PC

[Citizen Cook]

I was wondering how the recently announced PlayStation 5 Professional stacks up against an equivalent gaming PC. Particularly the GPU.
I have an Nvidia 3080 Ti and I think the Pro might have it whooped. What do you guys think?

The PS5 Pro specs:

GPU: RDNA 2 60 compute units, 3840SMs.
Upscaling: PSSR (said to be better than FSR, worse than DLSS)
Ray Tracing hardware that Mark Cerny claims hasn’t been released in any of AMD’s current graphics cards.
CPU: AMD 8-core Zen 2 16 threads, 3.5GHz
RAM: 16GB GDDR6 560GB/s memory bandwidth
Storage: 2 TB NVME 5.5GB/s read
Wi-Fi: Wi-Fi 7
Ports: Two USB-C ports on the front, two USB-A ports on the rear, HDMI 2.1 output, and Ethernet
Price: $699

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Postat inițial de Engage901:

You can't play CS2 on a PS5.

Who wants to play that crap anyways.

[Skkooomer Lord]

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

Postat inițial de Engage901:

You can't play CS2 on a PS5.

Who wants to play that crap anyways.

Not you,

It also can't play 99% of the PC library.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

No but instead you can play those games that you won't have to wait to have on PC.
That's more/less the whole point.
No one said play ONLY on an XBOX or PS.
PC has it's use, obviously, especially when it comes to doing things outside of Games.
But most of those games getting ported (like those Sony games) are generally terrible on PC. They look good and play butter smooth on the consoles though.

[Skkooomer Lord]

GTA 6?

Don't particularly care.

Run like crap on yours perhaps because you are silly.

[C1REX]

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

But most of those games getting ported (like those Sony games) are generally terrible on PC. They look good and play butter smooth on the consoles though.

You are right and many of these ports do have problems but with the right specs PC will still outperform consoles.
I'm an ex console player who switched to PC to play better versions of consoles games. Like I play FF16 that looks and runs way better than on PS5.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Postat inițial de C1REX:

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

But most of those games getting ported (like those Sony games) are generally terrible on PC. They look good and play butter smooth on the consoles though.

You are right and many of these ports do have problems but with the right specs PC will still outperform consoles.
I'm an ex console player who switched to PC to play better versions of consoles games. Like I play FF16 that looks and runs way better than on PS5.

I'm not talking about performance. Many times the PC versions of various games like The Last of Us, Until Dawn and others have so many ridiculous annoying bugs tbat never gets fixed.

All these Sony games you all have seen come to PC Steam I had them all at release on PS4. Very rarely seen these odd bugs that many see or report about when it comes to these PC versions of said games. I can understand some people run into odd bugs or crashes or whatever due to their PC software, lack or of updates or less then ideal system specs but just bugs in general is mostly what I'm referring to. Games that played fine on PS4/PS5 have people on PC pulling their hair out in frustration.

Overall I just wish Sony and it's partners would take more care with the overall game support. So that they aren't looked at by PC Gaming Community as crap or a failure.

[CaptObvious75]

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

Postat inițial de CaptObvious75:

GPU is between 7700xt and 7800xt. The TF rating is dual issue which is what RDNA3 quoted. Its running RDNA4 RT. Honestly, i'm buying one. I have a 7900xt PC but tired of waiting for games like Stellar Blade and FFVII Rebirth to come to PC.

Not to mention so many of these Sony games have various issues on PC even with the best PC hardware out there. Yet they run flawlessly on the PS5 already. Games I paid for back on PS4 run better and look better on PS5 without me having to do anything more or pay extra for anything, aside from just the console itself. But I had no trouble cleaning up the PS4 and getting a good amount back from it via reselling it.

Who needs the BR player anyways? But at least it's an option, which for any of the PS5 you can buy that for around $80 if needed.

PS5 PRO also already comes with 2TB SSD. Which honestly they should have done with the original PS5 since you don't get the full drive amount anyways; not just because of what's lost from formatting by the OS and such takes up a good chunk; so 1TB doesn't really cut it when some games are well over 100+ GB each.

I have kids and a bunch of movies so a BD is a must have. I can't find any anywhere but stock will come back. I also tend to buy physical on console since PC is all digital- I don't like having all my eggs in one basket.

[Citizen Cook]

Postat inițial de >9000:

IDK What to tell you but what was your cpu paired with RTX 3080 Ti?

AMD Ryzen 7700X

[Citizen Cook]

Postat inițial de CaptObvious75:

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

Not to mention so many of these Sony games have various issues on PC even with the best PC hardware out there. Yet they run flawlessly on the PS5 already. Games I paid for back on PS4 run better and look better on PS5 without me having to do anything more or pay extra for anything, aside from just the console itself. But I had no trouble cleaning up the PS4 and getting a good amount back from it via reselling it.

Who needs the BR player anyways? But at least it's an option, which for any of the PS5 you can buy that for around $80 if needed.

PS5 PRO also already comes with 2TB SSD. Which honestly they should have done with the original PS5 since you don't get the full drive amount anyways; not just because of what's lost from formatting by the OS and such takes up a good chunk; so 1TB doesn't really cut it when some games are well over 100+ GB each.

I have kids and a bunch of movies so a BD is a must have. I can't find any anywhere but stock will come back. I also tend to buy physical on console since PC is all digital- I don't like having all my eggs in one basket.

Sorry to break it to you but console is fast moving to all-digital as well. I’d be very surprised if the next gen consoles even come with disc drives. Perhaps not even optional add-ons will be available next time around.

[SHREDDER]

Postat inițial de Citizen Cook:

Postat inițial de CaptObvious75:

I have kids and a bunch of movies so a BD is a must have. I can't find any anywhere but stock will come back. I also tend to buy physical on console since PC is all digital- I don't like having all my eggs in one basket.

Sorry to break it to you but console is fast moving to all-digital as well. I’d be very surprised if the next gen consoles even come with disc drives. Perhaps not even optional add-ons will be available next time around.

Yes most companies stopped releasing thier games on pc at dvd since 2016. Which is why since then i started getting them on Steam while until then i got them on dvd(and in the 90's on cd). But for 8 years now i get them only on steam simple because they stopped since 2016 releasing most fo them on dvd.

[SHREDDER]

Postat inițial de Bad 💀 Motha:

Postat inițial de SHREDDER:

Those who think like this are stupid. If they have a good graphics card that can the games with better graphics and perfomance than console(like mine RX 6700XT for example thati run all games maxed 1440p 60 fps0 then why they choose console and play the games with worse graphics and perfomane than their pc can? I have a xbox controller on pc since 2006. It is connected all the time isnce then. But i use it only for fighter(mortal kombat tekken street fighter e.tc) as iprefer action games/action rpg and platformers and fps to play with keyboard and mouse.

While WE know that, try telling today's youth that. People who grew up with Phones and Tablets

When you say people who grew with phones you mean those who are 20 years old or younger? They know very well that phones and tablets are not pcs or consoles anfd that they cant play the games that a pc or a console can play. Also iam 36 and all of my friends are more than 30 years old which means that they know this already. Evryone that i know who plays video game is a pc gamer. Only my girl freind who is 25 years told me that she was consoel gamer when she was a kid 10+ years old but that later she decided to become pc gamer.

[Citizen Cook]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/sony/ps5-pro-specs-leak

So, the PS5 Pro is sits about midway between a 3060 Ti and a 3070.

[C1REX]

Postat inițial de Citizen Cook:

https://www.pcgamesn.com/sony/ps5-pro-specs-leak

So, the PS5 Pro is sits about midway between a 3060 Ti and a 3070.

This is a bit misleading as both of these cards fall apart in newer games like Final Fantasy 16, Monster Hunter Wilds, The Last of Us and many more due to VRAM bottleneck.
According to real life benchmarks the base ps5 has similar gaming performance to 6700 non XT and the ps5 pro is expected to be closer to 7800xt.

[MancSoulja]

Postat inițial de C1REX:

Postat inițial de Citizen Cook:

https://www.pcgamesn.com/sony/ps5-pro-specs-leak

So, the PS5 Pro is sits about midway between a 3060 Ti and a 3070.

This is a bit misleading as both of these cards fall apart in newer games like Final Fantasy 16, Monster Hunter Wilds, The Last of Us and many more due to VRAM bottleneck.
According to real life benchmarks the base ps5 has similar gaming performance to 6700 non XT and the ps5 pro is expected to be closer to 7800xt.

In its performance mode, FF XVI on the PS5 drops as low as 720p and still rarely hits 60fps, let's not pretend the PS5 doesn't fall apart when it comes to that game too, meanwhile I have a PC with a 2080 and 5800x that will happily play the game at 1080p, max settings 60fps. (with the help of DLSS of course)

[C1REX]

Postat inițial de MancSoulja:

In it's performance mode, FF XVI on the PS5 drops as low as 720p and still rarely hits 60fps, let's not pretend the PS5 doesn't fall apart when it comes to that game too, meanwhile I have a PC with a 2080 and 5800x that will happily play the game at 1080p, max settings 60fps. (with the help of DLSS of course)

3070 owners complain that they run out of VRAM when fast travel between towns and get below 20fps or crash.
Others report the game can be played on 8GB but it requires a very clean system.
The game has a free demo but it’s less vram demanding than some locations in the full game - towns in particular.

My GPU uses above 10GB at native 1080p and up to 16GB at 1440p upscaled to 4K.