any suggestions on mid-tier gaming PC?

[failsafe]

I need to change my old PC... Just wanted to ask about any recommendations regarding mid-tier gaming suite. Im not looking for top-tier hi-tech stuff, since basically I dont play very demanding games. I guess I wouldnt mind playing... dunno... Wukong maybe at some point, but generally I mostly do strategy games, RPGs and likewise. I dont mind playing top tier games on non-maxed settings since I guess it doesnt make sense to overinvest into equipment to have little fun once per a long while. In other words Id like to buy something very efficient in financial terms. I assume that I need at least 16 GB RAM, though I will pick 32 - just in case. SSD obviously. My biggest concern is a motherboard - GPU - CPU triangle. Im not up-to-date with this stuff recently and also I dont have as much time as I used to have to really dig into this (though I thought about RTX4060 Ti + Ryzen 7 5800X + AMD B550). I will appreciate any sensible suggestions ;-)

[Bad 💀 Motha]

B550 Board (MSi Tomahawk is good one)

2x 16GB DDR4 3600

AMD Ryzen 5600X or 5700X3D

AMD 6800 XT / RTX 3080

750 / 850 W Gold/Platinum PSU (from a good brand is around $90-120); BeQuiet, Corsair, Seasonic, FSP Group, ASUS, MSI

Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 CPU Cooler

1TB NVME SSD for OS + Apps (such as WD BLUE)

2 or 4 TB SSD for games. Can be NVME or SATA

Windows 11 24H2 or Linux distro of choice

[C1REX]

Originally posted by failsafe:

I guess I wouldnt mind playing... dunno... Wukong maybe at some point, but generally I mostly do strategy games, RPGs and likewise.

Wukong and Final Fantasy 16 are very demanding. The new FF16 causes problems on 8GB VRAM GPU. In my case it uses over 12GB and caches about 16GB.

4060Ti is partucularly bad value in my opinion. I would highly recommend to stretch the budget to 4070, 4070super or 7900GRE or wait for new GPUs that will hopefully have more than 8GB of VRAM.

[failsafe]

Thanks.

I tried this one - in one of internet shops:

MB: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
GPU: AMD Radeon Pro VII 16GB HBM2
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G, 3.9 GHz, 16 MB
RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL16
Power: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W
Box: VETENI Woody ARGB
Thermalright Thermalright Peerless Assasin 120 SE A-RGB CPU-Khler - 120 mm
WD WDS100T3B0E 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen4 NVMe
WIN 11

-> 1300 EUR. I guess it seems okay, though I made some cuts - mostly on SSD.

[failsafe]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by failsafe:

I guess I wouldnt mind playing... dunno... Wukong maybe at some point, but generally I mostly do strategy games, RPGs and likewise.

Wukong and Final Fantasy 16 are very demanding. The new FF16 causes problems on 8GB VRAM GPU. In my case it uses over 12GB and caches about 16GB.

4060Ti is partucularly bad value in my opinion. I would highly recommend to stretch the budget to 4070, 4070super or 7900GRE or wait for new GPUs that will hopefully have more than 8GB of VRAM.

yeah, this is why I wrote that I consider playing it on mid settings. Dont feel like buying NASA tech just to spend 15 hours in one additional game ;-P

4060Ti... maybe You are right. I guess I have heard something bad about it as well.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by failsafe:

4060Ti... maybe You are right. I guess I have heard something bad about it as well.

4060Ti is just too expensive for the performance (Or too slow for the price) It's one of the worst deals and 8GB will bite you hard very soon. Some games hit 8GB at 1080p with console settings today.
You won't be even able to add frame generation in many cases because it uses too much VRAM that you won't have and only make the performance worse.
I would reccommend almost anything else. A second hand 3080Ti, 6800 non XT, 6800XT, 7700XT, 7800XT, 4070.
Anything but 4060Ti 8GB.

[Chaosolous]

Originally posted by failsafe:

Originally posted by C1REX:

Wukong and Final Fantasy 16 are very demanding. The new FF16 causes problems on 8GB VRAM GPU. In my case it uses over 12GB and caches about 16GB.

4060Ti is partucularly bad value in my opinion. I would highly recommend to stretch the budget to 4070, 4070super or 7900GRE or wait for new GPUs that will hopefully have more than 8GB of VRAM.

yeah, this is why I wrote that I consider playing it on mid settings. Dont feel like buying NASA tech just to spend 15 hours in one additional game ;-P

4060Ti... maybe You are right. I guess I have heard something bad about it as well.

If you're looking for mid gaming without breaking the bank, you should look into something like this:

https://www.acer.com/us-en/predator/desktops-and-all-in-ones/predator-orion/orion-3000/pdp/DG.E2PAA.001

If you get something with 16GB RAM (upgrading RAM is easy even if you buy something with 8GB, you can through another 8 or more in easily) and at least a 1660 SUPER or equivalent with a decent 10th or 11th generation processor, you'll be gaming at 1080p medium, no problem, without breaking the bank.

You can get pre-builts in that vein for around ~$800 to $1000

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

You can get pre-builts in that vein for around ~$800 to $1000

I'm sorry but this is a terrible vaule.
The 4060Ti is 2x faster that the 1660 super and it's still not a good GPU. The CPU is also slow and will cause stutters and FPS drops in some newer games. 8GB of system RAM is insane.

The OP can build a PC twice as fast (in games) for the price of that pre-build.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by failsafe:

I guess I wouldnt mind playing... dunno... Wukong maybe at some point, but generally I mostly do strategy games, RPGs and likewise.

Wukong and Final Fantasy 16 are very demanding. The new FF16 causes problems on 8GB VRAM GPU. In my case it uses over 12GB and caches about 16GB.

4060Ti is partucularly bad value in my opinion. I would highly recommend to stretch the budget to 4070, 4070super or 7900GRE or wait for new GPUs that will hopefully have more than 8GB of VRAM.

RTX 3080 10GB has no problems with those even at 1440p/21:9 as I've already tried out those games myself. RTX 40 isn't a good idea atm as RTX 50 would push pricing down. Remember how it was with 3060 and 3060 Ti a bit after RTX 40 series came out.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Originally posted by failsafe:

Thanks.

I tried this one - in one of internet shops:

MB: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
GPU: AMD Radeon Pro VII 16GB HBM2
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G, 3.9 GHz, 16 MB
RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL16
Power: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W
Box: VETENI Woody ARGB
Thermalright Thermalright Peerless Assasin 120 SE A-RGB CPU-Khler - 120 mm
WD WDS100T3B0E 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen4 NVMe
WIN 11

-> 1300 EUR. I guess it seems okay, though I made some cuts - mostly on SSD.

Radeon Pro VII is outdated GPU.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/t3xDpB

[_I_]

dont go with acer, hp, dell etc..
all their lower gaming pcs use junk parts that are not upgradable
psu tied to mobo, mobo tied to case

whats your budget, location?

are you near a microcenter?
https://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx

they have good mid gaming pcs fora round $800-1000

if not in driving range, for $1000+tax not sure about shipping price
https://www.microcenter.com/product/685194/asus-rog-strix-g15ds-g15ds-dh764-gaming-pc
7700x, 16g ram, 4060
1tb nvme ssd

or $800+tax in store
https://www.microcenter.com/product/675053/asus-rog-strix-g15dk-mh764ti-gaming-pc
5800x, 16g ram, 3060ti

[failsafe]

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

Originally posted by failsafe:

Thanks.

I tried this one - in one of internet shops:

MB: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
GPU: AMD Radeon Pro VII 16GB HBM2
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G, 3.9 GHz, 16 MB
RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL16
Power: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W
Box: VETENI Woody ARGB
Thermalright Thermalright Peerless Assasin 120 SE A-RGB CPU-Khler - 120 mm
WD WDS100T3B0E 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen4 NVMe
WIN 11

-> 1300 EUR. I guess it seems okay, though I made some cuts - mostly on SSD.

Radeon Pro VII is outdated GPU.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/t3xDpB

Good to know. Thanks.

And nice setup. Some things here seem to be cheaper than in Poland.

[failsafe]

Originally posted by _I_:

dont go with acer, hp, dell etc..
all their lower gaming pcs use junk parts that are not upgradable
psu tied to mobo, mobo tied to case

whats your budget, location?

are you near a microcenter?
https://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx

they have good mid gaming pcs fora round $800-1000

if not in driving range, for $1000+tax not sure about shipping price
https://www.microcenter.com/product/685194/asus-rog-strix-g15ds-g15ds-dh764-gaming-pc
7700x, 16g ram, 4060
1tb nvme ssd

or $800+tax in store
https://www.microcenter.com/product/675053/asus-rog-strix-g15dk-mh764ti-gaming-pc
5800x, 16g ram, 3060ti

Poland.

I will buy in net-store, already assembled with OS installed and things tested. And delivered, of course. I'd like to stay near 1k EUR budget - this is an equivalent of 1100 - 1200 USD.

16 GB is not enough - I mean it could serve well in easily 75% of games I play, but sometimes I would like to have more, even at the cost of GPU. In games like Cities Skylines with 100's of mods and lots of DLC RAM is what matters most, so I will go straight for 32 GB. 2x16 I guess.

[failsafe]

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

Originally posted by failsafe:

yeah, this is why I wrote that I consider playing it on mid settings. Dont feel like buying NASA tech just to spend 15 hours in one additional game ;-P

4060Ti... maybe You are right. I guess I have heard something bad about it as well.

If you're looking for mid gaming without breaking the bank, you should look into something like this:

https://www.acer.com/us-en/predator/desktops-and-all-in-ones/predator-orion/orion-3000/pdp/DG.E2PAA.001

If you get something with 16GB RAM (upgrading RAM is easy even if you buy something with 8GB, you can through another 8 or more in easily) and at least a 1660 SUPER or equivalent with a decent 10th or 11th generation processor, you'll be gaming at 1080p medium, no problem, without breaking the bank.

You can get pre-builts in that vein for around ~$800 to $1000

I had good experience with Acer long time ago, but most recently not really. I try to stay away from pre-builds. I use them mostly in office in my company... and Im never really happy. PC for 500 EUR (550 USD) is suitable only for using email, while doing own config in this value can be much more effective. Of course it might be a matter of finding proper prebuild.

[Freqsync]

the keyboard.

Thats maybe all could suggest for mid tier.

try a
MINI with a fn key for the f1 and numpad. its definitely not for ever hand

Freestyle (split)
Ergonomic versions with tilt and so forth

SCULPTED Ergonomic (double space bars)

Low Vision (swap those keys into another one for specifics)

Hot Swappable gasket Customizable


At least this you can keep throughout.

[smokerob79]

Originally posted by failsafe:

Thanks.

I tried this one - in one of internet shops:

MB: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
GPU: AMD Radeon Pro VII 16GB HBM2
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G, 3.9 GHz, 16 MB
RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL16
Power: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W
Box: VETENI Woody ARGB
Thermalright Thermalright Peerless Assasin 120 SE A-RGB CPU-Khler - 120 mm
WD WDS100T3B0E 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen4 NVMe
WIN 11

-> 1300 EUR. I guess it seems okay, though I made some cuts - mostly on SSD.

this PC is pure garbage.....CPU only has 8 PCI-E lanes and is already outdated.....GPU wont game well as a pro level workstation GPU......the SSD was the only thing not really cut on this system......most prebuilts still have GEN3


no matter what DO NOT BUY THIS SYSTEM.......