JP Llani Sep 29, 2024 @ 6:45am
1st boot. White vga light
Hi.
I am going crazy.
I just built a pc from some new parts and some I already had.
Specs:
MSI pro B760m-p ddr5
I5 12400f
Fury ddr5 ram
Asus 1060 6gb
650w power supply

I have connected everything. Pc switches on when I press power button.
On the debug led it goes through the processor light fine and also the dram. When it gets to the VGA light it just lights up white and stays there.
I get zero image on my display.
Problem with this is I cannot access my bios.

I think the motherboard is trying to start using the onvoard gpu which my processor does not have and for some reason doesn't think to use my external gpu.

I have tried all the solutions I have found online.
One ram, ram on different slots, new ram, reset cmos (multiple times), no gpu, gpu not connected to monitor, gpu connected to monitor, no gpu at all.
I also started the motherboard with nothing installed. Nothing showed up on my display from the motherboard and obviously the debug led stays red on processor.

Any solutions anyone can think of will ne greatly appreciated.
I have to think its the motherboard.

Does anyone know if the motherboard should display anything if no components are connected?

Would anyone know if I can update bios without accessing the bios or having a display?

Thanks.
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smokerob79 Sep 29, 2024 @ 6:58am 
first off are you using a DISPLAY PORT??? DP set to the wrong standard will cause this at boot like a 1.4 DP monitor being connected to a 1.2 DP port on a older GPU.....I would also try the GPU in another system if you can to make sure its working.....
JP Llani Sep 29, 2024 @ 7:12am 
No I am using a hdmi. My monitor at the moment doesn't have a DP.
To go even further it's the same hdmi cable and same monitor and same GPU I was using on my other PC where everything worked and still does if I swap GPU.
Yes I have tried 2 GPUs both working on another PC.
Last edited by JP Llani; Sep 29, 2024 @ 7:13am
smokerob79 Sep 29, 2024 @ 7:36am 
yeah ether motherboard or CPU at this point then.....was hoping it was something easy....oh well...
JP Llani Sep 29, 2024 @ 8:07am 
Ye I'm assuming ( and hoping) its probably the motherboard so I'm sending that back.
Thanks. That'll teach me to buy from the amazon used store.
it does suggest that your motherboard is incompatible with your graphics card. another possibility is that your graphics card slot is shot. do you have another graphics card slot on that motherboard? if you do you can try that.
ˢᵈˣ FatCat Sep 29, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
Go build your PC outside your PC case, going naked is the only way
r.linder Sep 29, 2024 @ 2:08pm 
This is where having an F SKU shoots you in the foot, you can't test it with the iGP when there isn't one

VGA light usually indicates a problem with the GPU and wouldn't just appear because it's expecting there to be an iGP, it's going to be an issue with the card, display cable, or display

Make sure the display cable is connected to the GPU and not the motherboard
Last edited by r.linder; Sep 29, 2024 @ 2:08pm
the gpu have been tested in another pc so, it is not the gpu. read post 2.
r.linder Sep 29, 2024 @ 2:14pm 
Sometimes BIOS on newer motherboards can have issues running older graphics cards, even if the interface is supported, and vice versa

Newer hardware like this should be running better than a 1060 anyway, with that GPU you're fine with hardware at least 5 years back
76561199389059995 Sep 29, 2024 @ 8:45pm 
Originally posted by JP Llani:
Hi.
I am going crazy.
I just built a pc from some new parts and some I already had.
Specs:
MSI pro B760m-p ddr5
I5 12400f
Fury ddr5 ram
Asus 1060 6gb
650w power supply

I have connected everything. Pc switches on when I press power button.
On the debug led it goes through the processor light fine and also the dram. When it gets to the VGA light it just lights up white and stays there.
I get zero image on my display.
Problem with this is I cannot access my bios.

I think the motherboard is trying to start using the onvoard gpu which my processor does not have and for some reason doesn't think to use my external gpu.

I have tried all the solutions I have found online.
One ram, ram on different slots, new ram, reset cmos (multiple times), no gpu, gpu not connected to monitor, gpu connected to monitor, no gpu at all.
I also started the motherboard with nothing installed. Nothing showed up on my display from the motherboard and obviously the debug led stays red on processor.

Any solutions anyone can think of will ne greatly appreciated.
I have to think its the motherboard.

Does anyone know if the motherboard should display anything if no components are connected?

Would anyone know if I can update bios without accessing the bios or having a display?

Thanks.
I have questions here, what are components you already had? What are components did you buy new? Biggest question of all, do all components still under warranty?
I understand what are you going to do or what did you do but sometimes things went down the hill true so no offense here.
You seemed frustrated here, old components test have to testing on test on old components only. New components test with new ones only.
From Greg Salazar did something wrong a little bit in one of "Fix or Flop" episodes , he did test old gpu on new components and accidently fried a whole system or almost IDK didn't that coming :steamfacepalm:
Last edited by >9000; Sep 29, 2024 @ 9:27pm
JP Llani Sep 30, 2024 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by andreasaspenberg575:
it does suggest that your motherboard is incompatible with your graphics card. another possibility is that your graphics card slot is shot. do you have another graphics card slot on that motherboard? if you do you can try that.

Nope. Only have the one.

Originally posted by r.linder:
This is where having an F SKU shoots you in the foot, you can't test it with the iGP when there isn't one

VGA light usually indicates a problem with the GPU and wouldn't just appear because it's expecting there to be an iGP, it's going to be an issue with the card, display cable, or display

Make sure the display cable is connected to the GPU and not the motherboard

Ye. I have tried to connect HDMI to both motherboard and GPU incase. I have even treid different cables and different monitors. Nothing. Had another GPU and still nothing. Both tested on another machine and both worked.
Definitely regret getting and F.



Originally posted by r.linder:
Sometimes BIOS on newer motherboards can have issues running older graphics cards, even if the interface is supported, and vice versa

Newer hardware like this should be running better than a 1060 anyway, with that GPU you're fine with hardware at least 5 years back

Is there anything I can do for this? the GPU is fully updated. I wouldn't want to spend on a new GPU as this is the only decent one I have spare and its enough for what I want right now.

I assume the only way around this is to start it up with a compatible GPU and then install the drivers for the 1060?


Thanks all for the replies. I am sending my motherboard back in a few days in the hope it is the PCie slot or something motherboard related. Its the only thing i cant properly test. It was from amazon 2nd hand so it has been used. I am getting the same one brand new in exchange though.

I tried agian today building everything outside the tower with minimum components and still nothing. I even tried just to boot up motherboard hoping it gave me something on the display but nothing.

I will update when i get the new motherboard. But keep the suggestions coming incase i run into the same problem. Thanks.

I will update once i get the new motherboard at the end of this week.
ˢᵈˣ FatCat Sep 30, 2024 @ 10:38am 
if all the troubleshoot we have done tried, gotta bring it to the expert technician, just go rest bro
but still build it outside your PC case still might be work
Did you try removing and reinserting the gpu? Maybe it's not down into the pci slot all the way. It can happen with some pc chassis.

For example, the back bracket, where the display ports are, can get hung up on the chassis during insertion to where only the front portion is actually installed. Look at the pci slot and make sure the gpu is all the way down and flush to where no pins are visible.

If no luck there then you can remove the cpu and check for a misalignment in the grid of your cpu socket. The socket is full of pins that have to be perfectly straight and aligned. Consider the installation of the cpu contact frame to ensure an evenly installed processor, to avoid socket misalignment and ihs bending as this can ruin the cpu.
JP Llani Sep 30, 2024 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by FatCat:
if all the troubleshoot we have done tried, gotta bring it to the expert technician, just go rest bro
but still build it outside your PC case still might be work

Ye. I'm sending the motherboard back for a new one as I suspect (and hoping) this 2nd hand one is faulty. If not I will ne taking it to a technician. At least I can rule out the motherboard.
Thanks.



Originally posted by GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™:
Did you try removing and reinserting the gpu? Maybe it's not down into the pci slot all the way. It can happen with some pc chassis.

For example, the back bracket, where the display ports are, can get hung up on the chassis during insertion to where only the front portion is actually installed. Look at the pci slot and make sure the gpu is all the way down and flush to where no pins are visible.

If no luck there then you can remove the cpu and check for a misalignment in the grid of your cpu socket. The socket is full of pins that have to be perfectly straight and aligned. Consider the installation of the cpu contact frame to ensure an evenly installed processor, to avoid socket misalignment and ihs bending as this can ruin the cpu.

Ye I pressed it well into place. I looked as best as I could. All seemed OK but I couldn't say for sure. No idea about circuitry haha. I would have checked voltage incase but again. No clue.
incompatible gpu seems like the most likely problem. that or the pci express being shot. i know from experience that some motherboards does not support some graphics cards. i just checked the specs on your motherboard and it does not support graphics cards at all. only gpus supported is integrated gpus.
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