Looking for the best budget AM5 motherboard to go with 7800x3D.

[echo]

I'm looking for the best budget motherboard to go with my 7800x3D and probably a 4060ti or 4070ti.

I've had mouse issues (floaty, inconsistent) with my current build with 3600 and b550m-a so I'm kinda afraid it might give the same issues again.

Right now I have some boards in mind:

ASRock B650 PG Lightning
Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX
ASRock B650E Taichi

With the fear of getting the same issues, I haven't yet made the purchase and wanted to post here to see what you guys think.

Also with my current rig I have issues when the GPU is compiling shader for games, my headset loses input and output sound, like Discord completely lag out.

Thank you for your time!

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

MSI B650 Gaming Plus WIFI is decent enough and not too expensive.

[r.linder]

Stick to MSI and ASRock, avoid Gigabyte and ASUS for now

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

Stick to MSI and ASRock, avoid Gigabyte and ASUS for now

ASUS does not have issues, not with me at least

[CaptObvious75]

Any decent one will do. I run a B650 MSI Tomahawk and its been rock solid.

[SHAZBOT]

im a crazy min/maxer, instead of recommending a motherboard, i would recommend my motherboard buying strategy...


you said the word budget, but you didnt say the word crap. one way to buy is to pick out a mini motherboard, which is your budget, but pick the most expensive mini motherboard you can find, so you have all the new gear and tools and stuff.

i think your saving $500 because youre stuck with only 1 or 2 gpu slots which i dont know if anyones noticed its 2024 you only need 1



my personal preference is asus motherboards. my opinion on msi MB is fire. my opinion on gigabyte is forever early access. my opinion of asrock is varies model and model year unpredictable too much effort.

asus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1xYJM2aZKc

if you must stray from asus...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDcq7xDcZEg



and if you dont like my picks, keep going down the list until you find one you like, micro... price descending.

you can get bleeding edge tech for under $170 USD at one point.


i look at it this way, i want the #1 MB in the world. but im not paying $1000 for the best ATX. so ill get the #1 micro, since i dont need 5 gpu slots.

[Tonepoet]

Asus has been caught red handed scamming people on warranty service lately.[www.pcmag.com] I'd avoid buying their products first hand until they prove they're a trustworthy brand again. Their products have a relatively low defect rate though, so you might venture out to buy a secondhand product if it's branded Asus.

Asrock makes low priced stuff, and they have the highest failure rate of the four major brands at 3.2%, and their warranty claim process takes 13 days. M.S.I. has the lowest failure rate at 2.8%, and while their warranty claim is lengthier than Asus or Gigabyte, it's still only 7 days, which is still only about half the time of Asrock's warranty process. Gigabyte's failure rate is almost as bad as Asrock's (3.1%), but they have the shortest turnaround time (3 days). This is based on information gathered from Swiss retailer digitec[www.techspot.com] over the course of two years. It might be different in other regions, but in the absence of other evidence, this is the best data we've got regarding how good the brands are by an objective measure.

Another thing I've read is that Asrock is particularly quick to try and void warranties, though that's just something I read off of reddit.

If you're not on a strict budget, it seems to me like your choice is between M.S.I. (because you're less likely to have a problem in the first place) or Gigabyte (because they'll resolve your case quickly in the unlikely event that you do have a problem).

Anyway, motherboard manufacturers don't really advertise their power phase delivery in the specs. of lower end motherboards. The only thing I think you can do easily is maybe count the number of chokes on the motherboard, maybe see if there's a heatsink covering the mofset chips, and hope they're hooked up rather than just there for show. You might also e-mail the manufacturer if you don't get an answer back.

Also, why not give consideration to the 4070 Super? I know it's only 12 gigabytes, but it has more perf. than a 4060 ti in the first place and if you can afford a 4070 ti, you can probably afford a 4070 super. The 4070 ti proper is just a 12 gigabyte card too if that's the concern, so you need a 4070 ti super if you want the extra V.R.A.M.

[echo]

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:

MSI B650 Gaming Plus WIFI is decent enough and not too expensive.

Thank you! I will look into this board and its features.

[echo]

Tonepoet님이 먼저 게시:

Asus has been caught red handed scamming people on warranty service lately.[www.pcmag.com] I'd avoid buying their products first hand until they prove they're a trustworthy brand again. Their products have a relatively low defect rate though, so you might venture out to buy a secondhand product if it's branded Asus.

Asrock makes low priced stuff, and they have the highest failure rate of the four major brands at 3.2%, and their warranty claim process takes 13 days. M.S.I. has the lowest failure rate at 2.8%, and while their warranty claim is lengthier than Asus or Gigabyte, it's still only 7 days, which is still only about half the time of Asrock's warranty process. Gigabyte's failure rate is almost as bad as Asrock's (3.1%), but they have the shortest turnaround time (3 days). This is based on information gathered from Swiss retailer digitec[www.techspot.com] over the course of two years. It might be different in other regions, but in the absence of other evidence, this is the best data we've got regarding how good the brands are by an objective measure.

Another thing I've read is that Asrock is particularly quick to try and void warranties, though that's just something I read off of reddit.

If you're not on a strict budget, it seems to me like your choice is between M.S.I. (because you're less likely to have a problem in the first place) or Gigabyte (because they'll resolve your case quickly in the unlikely event that you do have a problem).

Anyway, motherboard manufacturers don't really advertise their power phase delivery in the specs. of lower end motherboards. The only thing I think you can do easily is maybe count the number of chokes on the motherboard, maybe see if there's a heatsink covering the mofset chips, and hope they're hooked up rather than just there for show. You might also e-mail the manufacturer if you don't get an answer back.

Also, why not give consideration to the 4070 Super? I know it's only 12 gigabytes, but it has more perf. than a 4060 ti in the first place and if you can afford a 4070 ti, you can probably afford a 4070 super. The 4070 ti proper is just a 12 gigabyte card too if that's the concern, so you need a 4070 ti super if you want the extra V.R.A.M.

Thank you for the detailed information! I never thought about the failure rate!

With people recommending MSI boards for its reliability, I'm leaning towards getting a MSI board at this point.

I currently have an ASUS m-ATX board and it has terrible VRM which gives me a lot of trouble. That's one of the reason I'm avoiding m-ATX boards.

And 4070 Super is actually a really good card, I might get this card instead and put more money into other parts! Thank you so much!

[Tonepoet]

Glad to be of help.

It's not something that's normally even worth considering to be fair. The defect rates of the three companies are all rather similar of each other (within half a percent) and quite low (3.2% failure rate means 96.8% of their motherboards should be good).

M.A.T.X. can be alright. It's just a form factor. I mean there's less room on an M.A.T.X. board to build, but they can build good mini I.T.X. boards which are even smaller. You kind of get what you pay for though, and there's a tendency for the cheapest boards to also be M.A.T.X. boards.

Another thing that might help you sort out motherboard quality is the chipset. It doesn't really guarantee good power phase delivery, but higher tier chipsets are marketed towards higher tier customers, so there's a tendency for quality motherboards and higher tier or newer chipsets to correlate

On the graphics card side of things you might also want to consider A.M.D. cards. 7900 G.R.E. or 7900 xt. The 7900 xt performs rather similarly to the 4070 ti super[www.digitaltrends.com] for $100 less to the best of my understanding, and it also has more V.R.A.M. on the side, possibly giving it more longevity.

Also, Rumor has it that new graphics cards and arrow lake C.P.Us. may release in October. Another reason you might want to wait on purchases is that X870 motherboards are coming at the end of September[www.techpowerup.com]. The feature set is not actually especially interesting for our kind, particularly since they're meant more-so for the Zen 5 chips, but they could cut into the demand for other motherboards.

Creative professionals (mainly video editors) are going to want the throughput of U.S.B. 4, which is basically non-proprietary thunderbolt, so they should be competing less for gamer tier motherboards is my line of thinking. Granted, I could be wrong since those people would likely be gravitating towards Intel in the first place for that reason though.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

At this point it's more of an aesthetic and personal branding. Not much else.

All brands have good and bad products. Just avoid the really super cheap boards.

They all tend to have questionable tech support / warranty services, so I wouldn't really factor that in too much. Test your PC extremely hard as much as you can while you are within the return policy / refund window with regards to the retailer / place of purchase so you can go back to them first and quickly should you have issues. Like needing to return or refund something like a Motherboard.

Double check the brand makers site for the exact model and full specs before buying. If need be, download the PDF manual for the Motherboard for further clarification on certain features. Make sure you have enough M2 slots and SATA ports and note that usually for every M2 slot you populate, you usually will then lose 2x sata ports as a trade-off.

[smokerob79]

Feiqizi님이 먼저 게시:

r.linder님이 먼저 게시:

Stick to MSI and ASRock, avoid Gigabyte and ASUS for now

ASUS does not have issues, not with me at least

you have never RMAed anything with them to say something like this.....I RMAed one board with them and 6 replacements later a 960 and a 1070 were dead do to defective motherboards sent as replacements......have bought nothing but ASUS for 20 years....RMAing 7 total motherboards in the last 2 years has show me that i will never buy them again......