1080p/60fps FXAA good temperatures PC?

[InfinityJosh]

So I have just built my new gaming PC, I aim for 1080p/60fps FXAA high or ultra settings, below the specs.
What do you think about it? I tested a bit and temperatures are:

78c max for GPU
82c max for CPU

after hours of GRID2, Serious Sam Siberian, DOOM 2016, Age of Empires 3.

SPECS:

i3 12100F

Arctic Alpine 17 CO

Lexar THOR RAM DDR4 16GB Kit (8GB x 2) 3200 MHz

MSI PRO H610M-E

MSI GeForce RTX 4060 VENTUS 2X BLACK 8G OC

Silicon Power 500GB UD90

SilverStone SST-ST50F-ES230 v 2.0

Tacens NOVAX, Case PC Micro-ATX

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

And may I ask you the brand/type/sku of the thermal paste in which you used for that CPU please, Captain Josh.

[InfinityJosh]

Początkowo opublikowane przez The Incredible Magical Cupcake:

And may I ask you the brand/type/sku of the thermal paste in which you used for that CPU please, Captain Josh. :csd2smile:

Sure it’s ARCTIC MX-6, I applied myself cause first assembly was not well fixed (the CPU cooler attachment system is so bad) so I removed original pre applied CPU fan paste and applied directly on CPU, then I put the CPU fan on again.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

And you smeared the entire CPU backing (well almost smearing as you leave a bit of space for mashing at the ends) because some people pea drip the paste in the middle and this is so wrong (also what many professional builders do to save money).

The temperatures are both okay as it seems with the Arctic MX-6, personally I use the old school "Gray Beard" Silver 5 and about a decrease of 5 - 10°C but I also own an AMD CPU and your Intel runs far hotter as specified, your GPU is fine because it is a newer powerhouse RTX 40 series but could be a bit better while using FXAA w/o TAA.

Maybe should add this tidbit, 95% ISO alcohol the backside of the CPU (not the pin side!) prior to pasting to make sure all skin oils are removed due to prior handling.

Also I forgot to add that when applying any thermal paste do NOT use your bare hands as skin oils can and will create heat pockets when the CPU is cooler capped, it is best to use non-powdered latex/vinyl gloves, spread evenly leaving space at the ends/edges, wipe sides clean after, also having zero bubbles and not pasting too thick (1mm - 2mm will do).

Hope I got everything and covered all the bases besides all the technical/scientific stuff about thickness, viscosity, and thermal absorption.

[InfinityJosh]

Początkowo opublikowane przez The Incredible Magical Cupcake:

And you smeared the entire CPU backing (well almost smearing as you leave a bit of space for mashing at the ends) because some people pea drip the paste in the middle and this is so wrong (also what many professional builders do to save money). :csd2smile:

The temperatures are both okay as it seems with the Arctic MX-6, personally I use the old school "Gray Beard" Silver 5 and about a decrease of 5 - 10°C but I also own an AMD CPU and your Intel runs far hotter as specified, your GPU is fine because it is a newer powerhouse RTX 40 series but could be a bit better while using FXAA w/o TAA. :chirp:

Also I forgot to add that when applying any thermal paste do NOT use your bare hands as skin oils can and will create heat pockets when the CPU is cooler capped, it is best to use non-powdered latex/vinyl gloves, spread evenly leaving space at the ends/edges, wipe sides clean after, also having zero bubbles and not pasting too thick (1mm - 2mm will do). :hype:

Maybe should add to 95% ISO alcohol the backside of the CPU (not the pin side!) prior to pasting to make sure all skin oils are removed due to prior handling. :yetuhappy:

Many thanks, you super kind and helpful!
Yes, thanks for suggestions about thermal paste applications, I hope not to be forced to do again the reinstallation of CPU cooler with thermal paste since the cooler is so cheapo I am worried to break every time I remove/fix, but I will check temps sometimes, if temps will go above 90/92c for CPU I will consider to replace the cpu cooler with a decent one, but until it will stay under 92c during gaming I would avoid to replace it since I don’t like to spend money :(
For AA yes I always set FXAA if available and turn off other AA.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

I barely use just the smallest amount of thermal grizzly (X method for me). You need very little paste.

You also want to have the CPU contact frame installed for lga1700 socketed builds, as it secures the CPU properly and keeps it from bowing inward.

Intel's factory design actually bends your CPUs ihs, to where it's no longer a perfectly flat surface. Intel says it's "fine". Whatever Intel, I'm never buying your trash again.

Idk, at this point I'm almost ready to fish my fx-9590 build out of my storage and just say screw it with this new trash. The fx-9590 has never let me down.

Oh well, I actually like my computer, I just don't like these companies anymore with their moronic releases and terrible ideas. I just don't understand how these engineers and technicians can design something so poorly, it's almost like gross negligence.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

You are welcome and thank you for the kind words (I don't hear these too often).

Just for the record, if the game(s) did allow FXAA and TAA (plus Ambient Occlusion) to be utilized together, it makes for a more realistic picture viewing and pretty clean and less performance demanding as opposed to MSAA which your GPU can handle either/or the latter or former even with regard to the MSAA hardcore performance decrease - your limitation is the CPU, Captain Josh.

Początkowo opublikowane przez GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™:

I barely use just the smallest amount of thermal grizzly (X method for me). You need very little paste.

Also for the record, I pasted my CPU, 7 years ago using my preferred method and the temperatures remain the exact same hence +1°C increase since this build with the first and only initial pasting with Arctic Silver 5, Captain Ultra; therefore, proper pasting is essential (same with my older AMD FX series 2012 edition PC but this is a special classical case).

[Tonepoet]

Pea sized in the middle is justified by a few points of rationale.

The first is that the heat sink's the clamping force is so great that it should get pretty good coverage after it's smooshed down. You can watch a video of somebody mushing down thermal paste beneath a piece of acrylic to get a good idea of how it spreads.

The second is that human spreading can be prone to error, resulting in the types of microscopic air pockets that the thermal paste is meant to fill in the first place.

The third is that most of the die which generates the bulk of the heat is beneath the center of the I.H.S., so getting perfect coverage around the edges of the integrated heat spreader isn't as important as making sure that the middle has good contact and an even spread. Here are pictures of old delidded Ivy Bridge[www.techpowerup.com] and Skylake[www.anandtech.com] processors to get an idea of what a processor might look like beneath the integrated heat spreader.

Now granted, they make those little spatulas to spread the stuff for a reason, and in the case of Artic MX-6 it's especially viscous so helping to spread it might help, but generally speaking it's a perfectionist's game, and I certainly wouldn't describe pea method as being "so wrong". Is it suboptimal? Yeah, but if you use the right amount it maybe makes a third of a degree of difference.[koolingmonster.com]

What's much more important is that you use the right amount of thermal paste, since using too much or too little can make between 1.5 to 2.1 degree's worth of difference.

On the note of amount though, it is also worth noting that modern C.P.Us. are a bit larger lengthwise than they used to be[forums.evga.com], so you might actually want to apply a little more than a pea. Moreover, single line method has already been shown to be somewhat more effective than pea method anyway, so if you are not going to use buttered toast method (because it is rather time consuming, tedious, messy and needs a spreader), then you should probably use single line method, down the length of the C.P.U. This is especially so considering that making a proportionately longer line will likely compensate for the extra amount of paste needed. Not that I'd worry if you already applied a pea sized blob though.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

For an Intel CPU the maximum is 100c. Anything below that is perfect and fine with no issues. Even if you do reach 100c it will just reduce the clock speed of the chip and run normally anyway (no damage).

For an Nvidia video card usually 120 - 125c is the maximum. Again anything below that is fine.

78c max for GPU & 82c max for CPU are completely normal and within the normal operating range for both CPU and GPU. You don't need to change thermal paste or case fans or anything else. Just game and enjoy your computer.

[Karumati]

i'd put better cpu cooler, 82c is gonna heat up the room

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Karumati:

i'd put better cpu cooler, 82c is gonna heat up the room

Best when used during wintertime in a cold climate.

[Karumati]

Początkowo opublikowane przez The Incredible Magical Cupcake:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Karumati:

i'd put better cpu cooler, 82c is gonna heat up the room

Best when used in wintertime in a cold climate. :csd2smile:

not optimal, winter is only 3 months in a year at best.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Karumati:

Początkowo opublikowane przez The Incredible Magical Cupcake:

Best when used in wintertime in a cold climate.

not optimal, winter is only 3 months in a year at best.

Not if you live in Siberia.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Karumati:

not optimal, winter is only 3 months in a year at best.

Depends on where you live. Northern Canada is winter 6 months out of the year, sometimes 7 months out of the year with hard winters for example

[Karumati]

Początkowo opublikowane przez 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Karumati:

not optimal, winter is only 3 months in a year at best.

Depends on where you live. Northern Canada is winter 6 months out of the year, sometimes 7 months out of the year with hard winters for example

In uk it’s 1-2 weeks

[Illusion of Progress]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Karumati:

i'd put better cpu cooler, 82c is gonna heat up the room

Better cooling is not going to result in less heat being added to the room.

The heat added to the room is dependant on how much wattage is pulled, and how much of that wattage is lost as wasted heat.

If you want less heat added, you need lower wattage and/or more efficient running parts.