Thermal paste on gaming laptop...... :(

[ʙᴇʏᴏɴᴅ1ᴍᴀɴ]

so i decided to repasted my laptop literally all websites advices to use grizzly kryonaut so i ordered one but now i find out these pastes will pump out quickly like less than 10 days on gaming laptops , since gaming laptops runs very hot usually above 80 Celsius
on the other hand some people already said it was fine for them
now I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere
i rly scare to repaste CPU and GPU, also my temps are skyrocketing up tp 97 Celsius
Asus Zephyrus M15
(2070RTX-10750H)

[Illusion of Progress]

Why would the thermal paste only be good for 10 days? It will be good enough for years and years.

Running warmer is a reality of most laptops, especially gaming ones or other higher end ones. Applying aftermarket paste usually won't make a drastic difference as the spread between them is small (relatively speaking, meaning it won't make an overheating laptop vastly cooler unless the issue was a poor connection to begin with regardless of what particular paste or pad was used). Running warmer also doesn't mean your thermal paste is only good for a few weeks.

If you already have it, and you're comfortable doing the process, you have little to lose to try it. it probably won't vastly lower your temperatures, but it also won't become ineffective in short order, either.

[Raoul]

What do you mean "pump out quickly" Kryonaut is really good and I've done several laptops with no issues whatsoever can you link what you are referring to?

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

I'm using kryonaut on my laptop now for almost two years!

[MoonC A T]

CoffeeEspresso💊 původně napsal:

these pastes will pump out quickly like less than 10 days on gaming laptops

What does this even mean?

[Elon Mosque]

I have heard people have this issue over many forums and usually the recommended pastes are as follows.

Thermalright TFX/TF8, Hydronaut, Honeywell PTM7950, IC Diamond ,SYY.

I personally have kryonaut extreme I haven't had much pump out issues as I dont go over 72C usually.

Also as far as I know this model already has liquid metal applied on it , double check if it is also the case for you.

[Turbo6MTawD]

Sounds like you're putting on way too much paste.

[_I_]

take it apart again, clean it up
put a small dot on each component that needs paste
if something has thermal pads it does not need paste

[Carlsberg]

This machine cannot be more than 18 months old at most, should not have needed a repaste, maybe cleaning vents would be better served. If its used for gaming a lot consider a cooling pad or at least a hard/firm surface so it gets airflow.

[ʙᴇʏᴏɴᴅ1ᴍᴀɴ]

Carlsberg původně napsal:

This machine cannot be more than 18 months old at most, should not have needed a repaste, maybe cleaning vents would be better served. If its used for gaming a lot consider a cooling pad or at least a hard/firm surface so it gets airflow.

Skertouch původně napsal:

I have heard people have this issue over many forums and usually the recommended pastes are as follows.

Thermalright TFX/TF8, Hydronaut, Honeywell PTM7950, IC Diamond ,SYY.

I personally have kryonaut extreme I haven't had much pump out issues as I dont go over 72C usually.

Also as far as I know this model already has liquid metal applied on it , double check if it is also the case for you.

sadly this model has awful liquid metal the temps goes above 95 Celsius.
after i undervolted to offset-80 with only 20 watts and limited CPU boost speed from 5.0 to 3.6 ghz i get 91celsuis while the fans are running at 7000 RPM

[ʙᴇʏᴏɴᴅ1ᴍᴀɴ]

Illusion of Progress původně napsal:

Why would the thermal paste only be good for 10 days? It will be good enough for years and years.

Running warmer is a reality of most laptops, especially gaming ones or other higher end ones. Applying aftermarket paste usually won't make a drastic difference as the spread between them is small (relatively speaking, meaning it won't make an overheating laptop vastly cooler unless the issue was a poor connection to begin with regardless of what particular paste or pad was used). Running warmer also doesn't mean your thermal paste is only good for a few weeks.

If you already have it, and you're comfortable doing the process, you have little to lose to try it. it probably won't vastly lower your temperatures, but it also won't become ineffective in short order, either.

Kryonaut has been known to pump out on laptops and lose stability at >80C. This loss of stability was apparently improved in Kryonaut extreme as well as MX-5 (TFX and SYY-157 also are stable).
This was a major complaint about Kryonaut. In fact, one of HIDEvolution's system integrators (they are an OEM builder for several laptops) absolutely refuses to use Kryonaut because of temp degradation.
This is also one of the reasons people using delidded LGA CPU's have had bad stability using Kryonaut on the delid instead of Liquid Metal.
Laptops can be very prone to this because the CPU BGA die isn't flat. It's convex. The convexity is what causes core temp delta issues (usually, when the cores are 0-8 numbered, often cores 1,3 (on 4C/8T) and in addition, 5 (8C) end up a lot hotter than the others (those cores will always be slightly hotter even on a sanded die and great fitting heatsink). Combine that with imperfect heatsinks and you have a problem.

I encountered this issue myself with Kryonaut on my MSI GT73VR. This did NOT happen on my desktop CPUs however.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/pump-out-effect-is-it-real-or-is-it-nonsense-lets-discuss.283046/
there are many many sources for this particular case

[shtaklef]

you bought the wrong thermal paste. kyronaught is suitable for desktop pc

arctic mx-4/mx-5 or mastergelmaker are good for laptops

[Haruspex]

I repasted my laptop with Grizzly about a year ago. It's been great. Actually shaved off almost 10 degrees from my max temperatures.

[Raoul]

CoffeeEspresso💊 původně napsal:

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/pump-out-effect-is-it-real-or-is-it-nonsense-lets-discuss.283046/
there are many many sources for this particular case

Thanks for the link, I remember watching this GN video with der8auer but forgot about the pump out effect terminology. This effect should be on long term and not something like 10 days unless there was a bad application or mounting pressure applied and with kryonaut you do go back to repaste as you'll see temps rise slowly by a few centigrade after about a year or so but in a lot of cases will still be significantly lower than the oem paste that you started with even at that point.

[Elon Mosque]

CoffeeEspresso💊 původně napsal:

sadly this model has awful liquid metal the temps goes above 95 Celsius.
after i undervolted to offset-80 with only 20 watts and limited CPU boost speed from 5.0 to 3.6 ghz i get 91celsuis while the fans are running at 7000 RPM

I doubt that new thermal paste can perform better than liquid metal. However this means that you are in luck. Just order new syringe of liquid metal. Clean everything the vents and heatsink.

Apply liquid metal to both sides of the contact point and should be good. However note that your laptop is quite thin which means that you have less cooling capacity so dont expect 60 celcius or something like that

[ʙᴇʏᴏɴᴅ1ᴍᴀɴ]

I repasted my laptop with mastergel maker now it doesn't show anything , the screen is just back it won't boot.
I tried external monitor still no luck , also it doesn't have warranty cause i bought it from dubai
Guees i'm gonna get another laptop but not asus this time asus already have f##ked up with this awful liquid metal , maybe i buy MSI or Legion Lenovo...3060 with 8 core ryzen and 32gb ram
Here is screenshot of liquid metal applied by asus factory
https://pasteboard.co/D5vGH2rRBPyv.jpg