Gaming on Linux still sucks massive ass

[sudopacman]

There is nothing anyone can say to convince me otherwise, I just came here to rant.

I've used Arch Linux for nearly ten years now, I'm no slouch. In the past few years I've heard about all these great improvements, proton et al... what a farce. It doesn't seem to support any major games on Linux, at the very least not over Steam Play.

It has taken me 3 days to get an AMD card working (RX 6600), then it took another two to get an Xbox One controller working over bluetooth.

♥♥♥♥ anyone who says gaming on Linux is not a complete an utter waste of time and energy. All of this tinkering I don't mind doing, but I want to see an outcome.

The only game I can play is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Portal AND THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ RADIAL CONTROL INVERSION DOESN'T WORK!!!

The new SteamOS is being actively developed and the client STILL sucks ♥♥♥♥ on Arch. Like wtf is it going to take? How much effort? How much screaming into the void must we do to get Linux gaming dragged into the 21st ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ century... and before anyone says anything about the intrinsic nature of games on Linux: you're wrong. There is NO REASON why games cannot or should not work on Linux.

[uuuhhhh-Ghostly]

I can't argue with that.

[Start_Running]

Well what do you expect. Linux occupies an embarrassingly small market share.

[uuuhhhh-Ghostly]

Escrito originalmente por Start_Running:

Well what do you expect. Linux occupies an embarrassingly small market share.

That's the main problem. I love how MXLinux updates; seeing the lines of code scroll by is very satisfying. Installing stuff is cool, too. Both are extremely fast.

But gaming on it... Hell no...

[Satoru]

Arch Linux users are apparently now trying to take “most annoying userbase” away from Ubuntu I guess. If it’s not turnkey it’s just screaming into the void about everything now

https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/

Feel free to ask in the actual Linux forums

[Sazzouu]

Escrito originalmente por Start_Running:

Well what do you expect. Linux occupies an embarrassingly small market share.

How is it to be declared "embarrassingly" if it's not what it's designed for?

"Oh man these McNuggets are embarrassingly bad at curing cancer"

[rawWwRrr]

Escrito originalmente por Sazzouu:

"Oh man these McNuggets are embarrassingly bad at curing cancer"

While absurd, still not a lie.

Escrito originalmente por sudopacman:

The new SteamOS is being actively developed and the client STILL sucks ♥♥♥♥ on Arch. Like wtf is it going to take? How much effort? How much screaming into the void must we do to get Linux gaming dragged into the 21st ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ century... and before anyone says anything about the intrinsic nature of games on Linux: you're wrong. There is NO REASON why games cannot or should not work on Linux.

You are right. Gaming should work on Linux. Unfortunately it's not the lack of capable kernel but the lack of conformity in building a comparable OS around it. Every time someone finally makes an effort to create a standard, someone forks it and further dilutes the pool. Linus and Carmack have both commented in the past about the need for the community to standardize, or at least choose a direction in which to develop.

Perfect example of how Linux can succeed is Android. Love it or hate it, it's been developed with a clear goal on form and function. Because of that it's been the market leading smartphone OS for several years now.

Until someone in the community wants to take the lead, it's never going to happen. Steam has tried once before with SteamOS. No one followed. They're going to try once more at the start of the year with the Deck and SteamOS 3.0. They even convinced EAC to support Linux because of it. Only time will tell again if anyone wants to rally the troops under a single banner.

[Satoru]

Escrito originalmente por rawWwRrr:

You are right. It should work on Linux

Note steam only officially supports Ubuntu as the client as that's their primary testing platform. Steam isn't going to test and support every nonsensical flavor of Linux that every dark corner of the internet insists is the 'better' version

Pepole like the OP are the main reason why devs hate supporting Linux. It takes order of magnitude more energy and resources to support, but the playerbase is so toxic that most devs really begin to question the value of enduring this kind of nonsense for basically no sales

[Runkel]

Escrito originalmente por sudopacman:

There is nothing anyone can say to convince me otherwise, I just came here to rant.

I've used Arch Linux for nearly ten years now, I'm no slouch. In the past few years I've heard about all these great improvements, proton et al... what a farce. It doesn't seem to support any major games on Linux, at the very least not over Steam Play.

It has taken me 3 days to get an AMD card working (RX 6600), then it took another two to get an Xbox One controller working over bluetooth.

♥♥♥♥ anyone who says gaming on Linux is not a complete an utter waste of time and energy. All of this tinkering I don't mind doing, but I want to see an outcome.

The only game I can play is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Portal AND THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ RADIAL CONTROL INVERSION DOESN'T WORK!!!

The new SteamOS is being actively developed and the client STILL sucks ♥♥♥♥ on Arch. Like wtf is it going to take? How much effort? How much screaming into the void must we do to get Linux gaming dragged into the 21st ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ century... and before anyone says anything about the intrinsic nature of games on Linux: you're wrong. There is NO REASON why games cannot or should not work on Linux.

When you're passionate about gaming why don't you use Windows?

[rawWwRrr]

Escrito originalmente por Satoru:

Escrito originalmente por rawWwRrr:

You are right. It should work on Linux

Note steam only officially supports Ubuntu as the client as that's their primary testing platform. Steam isn't going to test and support every nonsensical flavor of Linux that every dark corner of the internet insists is the 'better' version

I'll edit the post as I was referring to gaming, not SteamOS specifically, that "should work on Linux" given the rest of my post.

[JVC]

It's bad business to spend developer time on supporting a platform that hardly any potiential customers use.

Linux came out in 1991 and it still hasn't captured the market. It'll never get any traction among mainstream users.

[Oz Gaming]

If you want to play games you use Windows. Not Linux or any Mac OS.

[Heretic]

It isn't the OS. It's the fact that MS is a monopoly and game engine developers focus on Windows and DX. We're talking big money closed source proprietary versus free open source. Linux is superior in many ways, but it isn't the platform to make money on applications in the PC market (unrestricted technology).

[[N]ebsun]

Been gaming on Debian for the last 5 or so years, a lot of improvements have been made - I would say it's just a matter of expectation vs reality.. just the fact that games even run is a leap in the right direction - don't expect everything to go smoothly if the game is not designed to run on linux.

[Lord Flashheart]

I have a dual boot windows/linux setip
Windows is for gaming only.
The games situation with linux is still not ready, especially with anti cheat software.

I am hoping the steam deck will force anti cheat software to play nice with linux.

Linux does have a lot of benefits over windows. Gaming is not one of them.

[Turbo6MTawD]

Escrito originalmente por Mind:

It isn't the OS. It's the fact that MS is a monopoly and game engine developers focus on Windows and DX. We're talking big money closed source proprietary versus free open source. Linux is superior in many ways, but it isn't the platform to make money on applications in the PC market (unrestricted technology).

Exactly this. DirectX is the biggest obstacle to gaming on Linux ever being truly viable. Only way that gets resolved is if Microsoft makes it open source (which they won't because money), or, someone big like Apple makes an open source competitor to get the games on MacOS.