Why cant "gtx 1660 super" graphics card do "ray racing"?

[GamePro46]

I want to compile map for source 2 (csg 2) but it wont let me. It says something i need a better graphical card or a driver update. How can i fix issue?

[GamePro46]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von r.linder:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GamePro46:

What? It can run the game 1920*1080 resolution at 144hz with maxed out settings.

Ray traced graphics are considerably more demanding than rasterized graphics, even the 1080 Ti struggles to an extreme with it because it doesn't have hardware acceleration for ray tracing. The performance you get in rasterisation is not at all relevant to ray tracing, you can go from 100+ FPS on raster to as little as 10% of that with RT enabled.

CS2 also requires specific GPUs to compile maps and that doesn't include GTX for some reason. RT can be enabled on non-RTX GPUs but the performance is garbage, and it'll take a long time for the 1660S to compile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ8JbwQFB8I

thank you for the tutorial. however in the video he says compiling can take days for a single compile. and emissive materials wont work? is there a better way? and in the comments people say it doesnt work anymore

[r.linder]

Probably have to upgrade graphics if it doesn't work

[UserNotFound]

Don't forget that with FSR, AMD has helped extend the gaming viability of the 'GTX' series (prolly GTX 1660 series and up for smoother gameplay) for a while. I mean, with my GTX 1080, I tried Godfall at High, not max, and got pretty playable framerate at '4K' with FSR enabled....

[wesnef]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

As long as you buy 80-90 series you are fine for quite some time

I'd rather put a down payment on a car for those prices. Paying $1k+ for a GPU is insane.

[Karumati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von wesnef:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

As long as you buy 80-90 series you are fine for quite some time

I'd rather put a down payment on a car for those prices. Paying $1k+ for a GPU is insane.

I already have a daily and project car from copart, no need for 3rd car

[Agenda 2025]

Use Geforce Now, think it's free for an hour? Essentially you are using Nvidia's GPU to run the game and it's just streamed to you.

[GamePro46]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Philco7a:

Use Geforce Now, think it's free for an hour? Essentially you are using Nvidia's GPU to run the game and it's just streamed to you.

But is it possilble to compile maps on geforce now?

[lailaamell]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von r.linder:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Electric Cupcake:

Ray tracing is a gimmick, anyway. Nvidia is completely obsolete.

Radeon blew past them so hard, they're not competitive at all.

...AMD is literally dropping out of the high end for next generation video cards, the highest tier model for 8000 series is likely either going to be the 8700-XT or 8800-XT. They've already confirmed that they can't beat nVidia so they're not even going to try, instead opting to cut costs by focusing on the affordable market.

Radeon only has a leg to stand on at all because nVidia really doesn't care about the affordable market, if they did then they'd blow Radeon away completely. But then they'd have a total monopoly on graphics.

That isn't a fanboy take like what you said, that's a reality check.

oh wow they remove the cards for a smallest amounth of customers who can actually afford high end

[Dutchgamer1982]

basicly ray tracing is a different type of gpu calculations.

with GTX the old way to calcuilate grafics.
and RTX the new way.
it requires a fysically different design in the chiplet..

this is also why some older RTX able cards like the 2080ti that in GTX mode perform equal or better than an 4070
.. will perform in RTX mode a lot worse.. due the 2000 series having only gen 1 rtx ability. and the 4000 gen 3..

any RTX card can be used also in GTX mode.. (as RTX is rendered as layer on top of GTX)
but the reverse is not true..

so no you cannot just add software.. the card fysically is not capable to make that kind of calculations... it does not have the chip capable to do so.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lailaamell:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von r.linder:

...AMD is literally dropping out of the high end for next generation video cards, the highest tier model for 8000 series is likely either going to be the 8700-XT or 8800-XT. They've already confirmed that they can't beat nVidia so they're not even going to try, instead opting to cut costs by focusing on the affordable market.

Radeon only has a leg to stand on at all because nVidia really doesn't care about the affordable market, if they did then they'd blow Radeon away completely. But then they'd have a total monopoly on graphics.

That isn't a fanboy take like what you said, that's a reality check.

oh wow they remove the cards for a smallest amounth of customers who can actually afford high end

it was always so around me (in a proper western country under what I define as real gamers)

NOBODY runs an xx50 -> thats an office computer card not a gaming card.
only 15% of gamers ran an xx60 (low end)
over 60% of gamers ran a xx70... (lower mid end)
over 20% of gamers ran a xx80 (higher mid end)
about 5% of gamers would ran an xx80ti (high end)
<1% of gamers would ran an titan / xx90 (extreme high end)

but that was when...
an xx60 would cost you 200 euro
an xx70 would cost you 350
and xx80 would cost you 500
and xx80ti would cost you 700
and an xx90/titan would cost you 1100

corrected for inflation.. the 4080 is 100% overpriced the 4090 130% overpriced... . the 4070 and below all 70% overpriced
...
so basicly to stay in your former "class" of gamer.. you need to splurge 70 to 130% more.. or you will have to drop to a lower class (which many do.. and thats why low end gamers are more common now than they used to..)

so I can see how 4080 and above cards are sold percentually a lot less than they used to at these prices... and even the xx70 may no longer be "the most sold model"

amd in the 7000 series offered cards that did cost only 800 euro while performing better than an 1100 euro 4080S.
ofcourse you paid for this by even worse powerdraw... (which for me is a big NOPE)
still for some users it ment they could at the same budget get an 7900XTX instead of an 4070.. and getting the best card of the other team thats the 2d best card after an 4090.. (even if much closer to an 4080S in performance) at least felt less of an insult

so for consumers the lack of competition is bad...

[smokerob79]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von r.linder:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Electric Cupcake:

Ray tracing is a gimmick, anyway. Nvidia is completely obsolete.

Radeon blew past them so hard, they're not competitive at all.

...AMD is literally dropping out of the high end for next generation video cards, the highest tier model for 8000 series is likely either going to be the 8700-XT or 8800-XT. They've already confirmed that they can't beat nVidia so they're not even going to try, instead opting to cut costs by focusing on the affordable market.

Radeon only has a leg to stand on at all because nVidia really doesn't care about the affordable market, if they did then they'd blow Radeon away completely. But then they'd have a total monopoly on graphics.

That isn't a fanboy take like what you said, that's a reality check.

this does not prove NgreedyA is winning.....it proves they are losing market share do their greed and people not being able to buy the cards......NgreedyA themselves have already said the production of the 5080 will be half of the production of the 4080.....you know why??? most 4080's are NOT SELLING........

NgreedyA trying to push people to the higher end cards with garbage Vram options and joke GPU cores like the 4060 people are not buying.....or buying last gen like picking up a used 3080 10gb over buying a 4070......

in closing i will remind you of the fact for generations of GPUs the best selling and most produced has always been the X60 line....like 260 460 560 760 and so on......you can NOT force a market known for paying 300 bucks or less on GPU's to buyer higher end hardware just because of the greed......i have bought my last NgreedyA.....would already be back on AMD if someone had not given me a hybrid water cooled 3080 for FREE......my last 8 builds have had AMD GPUs.......

[Komarimaru]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von smokerob79:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von r.linder:

...AMD is literally dropping out of the high end for next generation video cards, the highest tier model for 8000 series is likely either going to be the 8700-XT or 8800-XT. They've already confirmed that they can't beat nVidia so they're not even going to try, instead opting to cut costs by focusing on the affordable market.

Radeon only has a leg to stand on at all because nVidia really doesn't care about the affordable market, if they did then they'd blow Radeon away completely. But then they'd have a total monopoly on graphics.

That isn't a fanboy take like what you said, that's a reality check.

this does not prove NgreedyA is winning.....it proves they are losing market share do their greed and people not being able to buy the cards......NgreedyA themselves have already said the production of the 5080 will be half of the production of the 4080.....you know why??? most 4080's are NOT SELLING........

NgreedyA trying to push people to the higher end cards with garbage Vram options and joke GPU cores like the 4060 people are not buying.....or buying last gen like picking up a used 3080 10gb over buying a 4070......

in closing i will remind you of the fact for generations of GPUs the best selling and most produced has always been the X60 line....like 260 460 560 760 and so on......you can NOT force a market known for paying 300 bucks or less on GPU's to buyer higher end hardware just because of the greed......i have bought my last NgreedyA.....would already be back on AMD if someone had not given me a hybrid water cooled 3080 for FREE......my last 8 builds have had AMD GPUs.......

The 60 line as you put it, sold many since cheap to make(And let's be honest, no one was ever "happy" with their 260, 460, 560, 660 etc etc they were junk compared to the 70 series). They've never had issues at all selling the Titan, the 80, and the new 90 series.

Nvidia isn't struggling in the slightest as it stands now, AMD is in the GPU department.

[r.linder]

If Nvidia cared more about the low end, the 4060 would've blown the 6700-XT out of the water and had the same VRAM bus as the 3060

[Tu ere pobre tu no tiene aifon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von hackintoshchap:

Nvidia Ray Tracing compatible cards all have the prefix of RTX. The Nvidia models that do not support Ray Tracing use GTX or GT prefix in the model number.

yes but Nvidia did add support for a few select non-RTX cards:
-Pascal:
1060 6GB
1070
1070 Ti
1080
1080 Ti
Titan X
Titan XP

-Turing GTX:
1660
1660 Ti

-Volta:
Titan V

as you can see, the 1660 and 1060 6GB support it even though they're weaker than the 1660 Super, and the 1070 and 1660 Ti both support it as well, being the exact same performance as the 1660 Super

[r.linder]

All GPUs support raytracing, RTX just includes hardware that accelerates it