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Leaks suggest that the highest end model for 8000 series may only be the 8700-XT, at least for the initial release, because AMD wants to focus on the affordable market and on R&D to improve or replace their architecture with something better that will be more competitive.
RDNA was based on GCN, it was doing alright but maybe they need to go back to the drawing board like they did for Ryzen.
how many people will care??? lets be blunt most people are still on GPUs at or around the 300 dollar price point.....
Regardless of what number it is, the only way the top RDNA4 offering can fail to outperform the 7800 XT and not be a total disaster is if AMD prices it absurdly low, like $300 to $350. Otherwise, if they want to price it around the 7800 XT MSRP, then it sort of needs to at least match the 7900 XT in rasterization.
I expect it could be around the 7900 XT in rasterization performance, with better ray tracing performance, probably less VRAM though (probably 256-bit/16 GB?), hopefully better efficiency (it will be monolithic this time), and at a lower price point than the 7900 XT is (perhaps around the MSRP of the 7800 XT if it does perform closer to the 7900 XT).
I mean, that's the bare minimum that works if AMD is going to have a chance at doing the one thing they're going after this generation, and that's making an impact in the mid-range. It basically needs to be "given performance level, one tier down in pricing". Otherwise, they aren't going to do any better than they did with RDNA3. But if it's at least what I just said, then maybe it has a chance to repeat the success of the 7800 XT... and maybe that's good enough for AMD... maybe. Maybe not. The 7800 XT sold well in the individual part market but overall market share is low because nVidia sells way more volume in the OEM/prebuilt market. I have no idea what AMD's answer will be to that. I don't know if they are even after market share; maybe the status quo of "try to maintain market share and try not to cede more to nVidia" is good enough for them for this upcoming generation. I don't know. If it is, then we're likely only going more towards the nVidia monopoly and not away from it.
The RTX 5070 is possibly going to be slower than the RTX 4080? Probably around or a bit above the RTX 4070 Ti? I expect nVidia's next generation lineup to largely echo this one in regards to how the x60 will be less attractive than it was in the past, because they want to keep upselling as many people as possible to the x70, while still getting a lot of sales on the x60 simply because... it's nVidia and they know people buy it for that reason alone. It is this part of the lineup, where the RTX 5060 and RTX 5070 will occupy, will likely be what AMD likely goes after. Maybe they can make it work with something slightly slower than the RTX 5070 if it's priced way lower... but no way does something slower than the last generation RTX 4070 cut it. They'd basically be competing with nVidia's entry level at that point.
If it turns out to be so, I'd be happy to swap out my RX 7900 XTX to an RX 8800 XT(XTX) for better RT.....but only IF RT improvement, and overall gaming performance , improves noticeably over my present card. My RX 7900 XTX can then either be sold, or put into my 2nd rig.
As for OP's question, wait for the 9800X3D to be released and thoroughly reviewed, see where it stands against the 7800X3D both in terms of pricing and performance. Only then can you make a well researched and informed decision.....
I think this a smart move by them if they do develop a new architecture. They can first make sure it's a good build design for most needs, and then they can ramp up the amount of vram, clock speeds, timings, etc. It's a good way to get people that wouldn't buy an amd gpu, to buy one.
Also yeah, RDNA is not going to be able to go any further. Seems like they've pushed the limit of it, otherwise their next high end card would require minimum 600W for a card that would have a marginal improvement in performance over the next highest performing one.
If they're clever enough to figure out how to go beast mode with cpu's, I am still very curious as to how powerful they can make a gpu. I don't care about when they can make it, but if it was a ridiculous performance increase and also efficiency increase, that would impress me. I love competition with companies. It forces them to make the best products possible.
Where did you pull that non-sense from?
You can populate at least 4x M2 slots at the same time on X870-E; with multiple uses of both 5.0 and 4.0 PCIE speeds. Which is good because we no longer should be seeing Motherboards with a limitation for PCIE 3.0 SSDs; allowing them to dissolve away in the market and be forgotten, which is a good thing.
PCIE Lanes are no longer a problem since we're no longer doing multi-GPUs anymore.
You said you want a setup with 4k display, then its not definitely needed to upgrade and its more GPU dependent than CPU
You can check the performance gain in percentage between various generations https://theblogboy.com/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-is-it-worth-upgrading/