Min 17 Okt 2024 @ 5:31am
Just how bad is it ? Ram question
I'm building budget pc, my motherboard supports up to 5600mhz ddr5 ram, i found super cheap

Crucial 16GB, DDR5, 5600MHz, CL46 ram

i want to buy 2x16gb for dual channel, what worries me is - CL46 , just how bad it is for budget gaming ? I can't find benchmarks but what i found is different benchmarks for example CL40 vs CL36 is only 1-3fps difference, or it is worth it considering for example 5 fps difference ?
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It's fine.
Lixire 17 Okt 2024 @ 5:37am 
What is the rest of your platform like which CPU, GPU?
In very depends on your hardware, game, resolution and so on

Ideally if you are building a system on the AM5 socket for example. 6000@cl30 is basically the sweetspot in terms of memory performance as the Infinity Fabric on the CPU wouldn’t let you gain much more performance past that point

Intel does benefit more from faster memory and usually people would recommend going towards faster kits
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Omega 17 Okt 2024 @ 5:39am 
That is model number of the memory? And which motherboard?

Unless it is really signficantly cheaper it is probably worth while to spend $10 more on a nice 6000Mhz CL 36 kit.

You motherboard can run memory faster than what it lists as supported, memory can be overclocked using build-in XMP/EXPO profiles above what is listed as officially supported.

If your mainboard lacks overclocking support it will just run the memory module at a lower speed while still benefiting from the better CAS.
Min 17 Okt 2024 @ 5:56am 
CT16G56C46U5 model, pc specs 12400f , considering up to rx 6600 , bought lga 1700 mobo , i know it’s worse than am5 but decent am5 cpu is almost 50% more expensive in my country, aiming 1080p ofcourse
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CT16G56C46U5 model, pc specs 12400f , considering up to rx 6600 , bought lga 1700 mobo , i know it’s worse than am5 but decent am5 cpu is almost 50% more expensive in my country, aiming 1080p ofcourse
DDR5 altogether is overkill with a 6600 let alone 6000 CL30.

You won't see any difference.
BurakZG 17 Okt 2024 @ 6:06am 
If it is budget PC, you will get much more value building it on AM4. You will also get "faster" RAM.

Sorry, ignore my comment, I see you are building on Intel.
Terakhir diedit oleh BurakZG; 17 Okt 2024 @ 6:08am
Min 17 Okt 2024 @ 6:13am 
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CT16G56C46U5 model, pc specs 12400f , considering up to rx 6600 , bought lga 1700 mobo , i know it’s worse than am5 but decent am5 cpu is almost 50% more expensive in my country, aiming 1080p ofcourse
DDR5 altogether is overkill with a 6600 let alone 6000 CL30.

You won't see any difference.
It may be , but maybe later some space for upgrade , i always cheap out buying gpu , most important part of pc :D
Min 17 Okt 2024 @ 6:14am 
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If it is budget PC, you will get much more value building it on AM4. You will also get "faster" RAM.

Sorry, ignore my comment, I see you are building on Intel.
I thought about am4 , but 12400f is like around 90 euros , price is quite nice
Lixire 17 Okt 2024 @ 6:32am 
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CT16G56C46U5 model, pc specs 12400f , considering up to rx 6600 , bought lga 1700 mobo , i know it’s worse than am5 but decent am5 cpu is almost 50% more expensive in my country, aiming 1080p ofcourse

if you are on 12400F then that 5600 kit is perfectly fine and spending more won't yield any improvement in your case
BurakZG 17 Okt 2024 @ 6:34am 
Right, 12400f is a good option for a budget build.
I would prefer DDR4 3200 CL16, which is much cheaper and has better response time, but I also think you will not notice much difference (if any).

Since you already bought motherboard, it does not matter.
Terakhir diedit oleh BurakZG; 17 Okt 2024 @ 6:36am
In regards of the CAS latency, DDR5-5600 CL46 is comparable to 4800 CL40.
You might find more data on the latter one.

Which motherboard? Intel only guarantees a transfer data up to 4800 MT/s on this cpu.
Terakhir diedit oleh Julien, cut it out.; 17 Okt 2024 @ 6:51am
Am4's value is much better. Am5 doesn't really offer anything except DDR5, pcie 5.0 none of which is meaningful at all, especially considering the extra cost involved.

The only reason to go am5 is to take advantage of the newer 8000 integrated graphics and build a small form factor system.
C1REX 17 Okt 2024 @ 7:11am 
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or it is worth it considering for example 5 fps difference ?

It depends on what CPU you are buying. Ryzen 7000 non-3D are more affected by RAM speed than Intel and Ryzen 3D chips.

The Ryzen 7700x, for example, can gain 17% performance on good RAM versus bad.

Lower-end Intel CPUs with less cache memory should behave similarly and also be affected by RAM speed.

I don’t think there are motherboards out there that don’t support EXPO and XMP profiles, and it’s definitely worth using them. Just remember to place them in slots 2 and 4 - the correct slots. Even better of it’s a 2dimm motherboard.

https://youtu.be/aD-4ScpDSo8?si=UUfsgJrY2Q9K-cnb
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DDR5 altogether is overkill with a 6600 let alone 6000 CL30.

You won't see any difference.
It may be , but maybe later some space for upgrade , i always cheap out buying gpu , most important part of pc :D

rx6600 is a good card (i have same) and allready low budget
the only more budget gpu i can imagine is the rx580. but has only 60% fps of rx6600
https://youtu.be/29KVgXbwl1o?feature=shared
Lixire 17 Okt 2024 @ 7:14am 
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Am4's value is much better. Am5 doesn't really offer anything except DDR5, pcie 5.0 none of which is meaningful at all, especially considering the extra cost involved.

The only reason to go am5 is to take advantage of the newer 8000 integrated graphics and build a small form factor system.

if anything, I feel like there isn't much a reason to go AM4 for a new build.
If someone is already on AM4 then yeah. shove a 5700X3D into that motherboard and you are good to go

But for a new system? pricing of AM5 motherboards and DDR5 RAM did drop and CPUs like the Ryzen 5 7500F go for like 140$ or so. going AM5 with a new build is just more appealing with its upgrade path long-term while AM4 is basically a socket that is done for
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