63% of memory usage while standby

[raz]

https://prnt.sc/EWX10eDwsYdu

i dont really have a lot of programs open.. only steam and stuff like GHUB for my mouse and keyboard. thats kinda a lot of usage isnt it?

[Haruspex]

Let's see a a screenshot of your processes in Task Manager, sorted by memory use.

[raz]

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Let's see a a screenshot of your processes in Task Manager, sorted by memory use.

there is a screenshot link or is that not working?

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by just vibing:

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Let's see a a screenshot of your processes in Task Manager, sorted by memory use.

there is a screenshot link or is that not working?

Your screenshot only shows the memory use chart under "performance". I'm asking to see the processes, and sort them by memory being used. This will tell us what programs running on your PC are using all that RAM.

[raz]

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Originally posted by just vibing:

there is a screenshot link or is that not working?

Your screenshot only shows the memory use chart under "performance". I'm asking to see the processes, and sort them by memory being used. This will tell us what programs running on your PC are using all that RAM.

here you go

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by raz:

here you go

So, you know how last time you had a link to a screenshot you took? Like this:

Originally posted by raz:

https://prnt.sc/EWX10eDwsYdu

Yeah, I don't know if you realize, but you didn't do that this time. You only said, "here you go".

[raz]

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Originally posted by raz:

here you go

So, you know how last time you had a link to a screenshot you took? Like this:

Originally posted by raz:

https://prnt.sc/EWX10eDwsYdu

Yeah, I don't know if you realize, but you didn't do that this time. You only said, "here you go".

https://prnt.sc/TaRXtpzKLYGv

my bad sorry

[Illusion of Progress]

More information is needed, as was asked above.

The process list is a good place to start, but it might not give you the answer. Namely, adding everything you see up there will never come out to your total memory use because there's a lot more than applications in user space that use memory.

What can be seen is that you have 800 MB hardware reserved (probably to the IGP), although that doesn't count against your memory use; it reduced your capacity (hence the 31.2 GB usable).

You have almost 3 GB tied up in page pool and non-page pool, likely from drivers, and while neither of these values are necessarily high enough to indicate an issue, that's higher than I'd expect from an idle system

Then again, a near constant 18% CPU use is too, so I'm guessing this is a case of "it's not as idle as you think".

Windows itself can use a handful of GB, give or take.

Presuming you actually have a particular application claiming a lot of the remainder, you might have a memory leak somewhere.

In Task Manager, go to the "users" tab and see how much memory it's showing. This will give you a good idea of the unaccounted for memory is tied up in user space or within Windows. If it's the latter, the leak is likely caused by a driver. If the former, it may be in an application you're running.

Edit: Yeah, going on the above ninja added screenshot, I'm guessing leak in some low level application or driver.

Restarting (not shutting down and turning back on) should get you back to "normal" RAM use for now, but if it's a leak, it may grow again over time.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by raz:

https://prnt.sc/TaRXtpzKLYGv

my bad sorry

No worries.

Hmm. Interesting. It's not Steam that's using up all that RAM. That's just using a pretty typical 500 MB or so.

I would do a more thorough check using Resource Monitor. That will also show a more thorough list of your processes.

I would also check your Startup Apps to see if anything is launching on boot that shouldn't be. What happens after you reboot your system?

[A&A]

Superfetch or VM/s running in the background.

I don't remember Superfetch being this aggressive.

[raz]

i got some programs installed like AMD Software, CPUID ASUS , aura lightning, aniMe Matrix MB etc no clue what all that is but probably stuff what i intalled with the AMD driver setup thing.. should i delete all of them?

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by A&A:

Superfetch or VM/s running in the background.

I don't remember Superfetch being this aggressive.

I figured all that went into cached memory, no?

Originally posted by raz:

i got some programs installed like AMD Software, CPUID ASUS , aura lightning, aniMe Matrix MB etc no clue what all that is but probably stuff what i intalled with the AMD driver setup thing.. should i delete all of them?

I really wouldn't recommend randomly deleting things that you're unsure of, no.

You need to find out what is claiming this memory.

If it's not in user space, then stuff like Task Manager/Resource Monitor probably won't be of much help. You'll need to look at stuff like RAMMap[learn.microsoft.com] or Process Monitor[learn.microsoft.com].

Restarting your PC will get your RAM use back down. But if you have a memory leak, it will grow eventually, depending on what's causing it, so you may want to use the above methods now while you still have the high RAM use to see where it is.

It's mostly likely some driver or other low level application in Windows, not user space.

[andreasaspenberg575]

in task manager, you can sort tasks by memory use. that should give you information on what is using your memory but, on the other hand, there could be a kernel level memory leak. those are not visible in task manager. on one of my pcs i had a kernel level memory leak of 8 gigabytes.

[raz]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

Originally posted by A&A:

Superfetch or VM/s running in the background.

I don't remember Superfetch being this aggressive.

I figured all that went into cached memory, no?

Originally posted by raz:

i got some programs installed like AMD Software, CPUID ASUS , aura lightning, aniMe Matrix MB etc no clue what all that is but probably stuff what i intalled with the AMD driver setup thing.. should i delete all of them?

I really wouldn't recommend randomly deleting things that you're unsure of, no.

You need to find out what is claiming this memory.

If it's not in user space, then stuff like Task Manager/Resource Monitor probably won't be of much help. You'll need to look at stuff like RAMMap[learn.microsoft.com] or Process Monitor[learn.microsoft.com].

Restarting your PC will get your RAM use back down. But if you have a memory leak, it will grow eventually, depending on what's causing it, so you may want to use the above methods now while you still have the high RAM use to see where it is.

It's mostly likely some driver or other low level application in Windows, not user space.

the thing is my pc is completely new.. got it like a month ago. i restarted the pc and all is good now.. i will have a close eye on the mem usage and if it happens again ill try to find the problem

[Illusion of Progress]

Originally posted by raz:

the thing is my pc is completely new.. got it like a month ago. i restarted the pc and all is good now.. i will have a close eye on the mem usage and if it happens again ill try to find the problem

To be clear, if there is a memory leak, this would be a software issue, not a hardware issue. The PC being new won't make it more immune to software behaving as it was programed to. But the PC hardware itself is fine.

Restarting with "clear" the RAM, but if there is a memory leak, it will return over time. You'll have to monitor it. If it's still an issue, you'll have to find out what software/driver is responsible, and update it or find and alternative.

[andreasaspenberg575]

correct, though in some cases the issue in in windows itself. when i got my massive memory leak in windows 10, i downgraded to an older build and the memory leak directly stopped.