ZhoraLeonPrisRoy 2024 年 10 月 15 日 下午 4:05
Help choosing upgrades for TG01-0199
Hi there,

I'm a pc user with very minimal technical knowledge. I recently upgraded the RAM to 32 GB. I'd like to know what I can get away with for GPU. The PSU is 310 but has a GPU that on paper requires 350. I'm thinking about swapping it for a GTX 1650 Super which also requires 350. Would this be the best option? Also interested in any comments about SSD and HD. Not interested in swapping cases.

Thank you.

Processor: 9th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-9400 processor 6-core 2.90GHz 9 MB Cache

Memory: 12 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM memory (3) (1 x 4 GB, 1 x 8 GB)

(expandable to 32 GB)

Internal storage: 1 TB 7200RPM SATA hard drive 256 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 Solid State Drive

Video graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 graphics card with 4 GB GDDR5 dedicated memory

Network interface: 10/100/1000 Base-T Network

Wireless connectivity: Realtek Wi-Fi 5 (1x1) and Bluetooth® 4.2 Combo, MU-MIMO supported

Sound: 5.1 surround sound

Memory card reader: HP 3-in-1 Media Card Reader–Supports SD, SDHC, SDXC

External ports

Headphone/Microphone Combo, Front I/O: 4 USB 3.1 Gen 1, 1 USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-C™, Rear: 4 USB 2.0, DVI-D, HDMI

USB Black Wired keyboard and mouse combo

Multi-display capable

DVI-D and HDMI capabilities, support for Microsoft® DirectX® 1

https://support.hp.com/ca-en/product/details/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-pc-tg01-0000i/model/33692032
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Zef 2024 年 10 月 15 日 下午 4:22 
no thts a terrible option.

what you should do is check whether that pc model supports a PSU upgrade to something like 500W and then put it a small form factor 2060/3060 MINI

that is a way better upgrade if you decide to keep the pc

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual-mini/dual-rtx3060ti-8g-mini-v2/

https://rog.asus.com/event/psu/asus-power-supply-calculator/global/index.html
最後修改者:Zef; 2024 年 10 月 15 日 下午 4:35
Tonepoet 2024 年 10 月 15 日 下午 5:24 
The power supply size recommendation is more of a guideline, and often overstated to account for system configuration variables. You get a more accurate read on the actual power consumption of a card going by the T.D.P. (thermal design power). Going by the T.D.P. isn't perfect either mind you, but it's as good as you're going to get reading off of a spec. sheet.

I don't have a TG01 0199 specifically, but I do have an H.P. Pavlion with a 310 watt power supply. I reckon what you probably have is a non-standard case/motherboard/P.S.U. combination, so once you have to upgrade any of those components you'll have to get a whole new P.C. You're stuck with what you've got basically.

I'm not 100% sure your P.S.U. is the same as mine, but I'd suppose it is highly likely. Mine does have a 6+2 P.C.I.E. connector on it. Only one though, so that's going to be your main limiting factor on what kind of P.S.U. you can stick in it. Kind of a pain to see which cards need how many 'cause they often don't show both angles where the connector might be (top and rear) though.
ZhoraLeonPrisRoy 2024 年 10 月 15 日 下午 5:53 
引用自 Tonepoet
The power supply size recommendation is...

Thank you for the reply. I found the hp psu that matches. It goes to 500w. Thoughts?

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/HP-Pavilion-TG01-0199-PSU-Upgrade/td-p/7636129
r.linder 2024 年 10 月 15 日 下午 7:57 
Considering the age of the system and the fact that it's a proprietary system design, I wouldn't waste your money buying the best model supported by the machine, save your money and wait until you can build a whole new system that'll be much better using standard components that are easily replaceable.

Also wouldn't really recommend putting more than like a 4060 on those kinds of power supplies, adding more stress to it by increasing the load is just a good way to make those junk OEM units fail faster.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2024 年 10 月 15 日 下午 7:59
_I_ 2024 年 10 月 15 日 下午 8:38 
引用自 Zef
no thts a terrible option.

what you should do is check whether that pc model supports a PSU upgrade to something like 500W and then put it a small form factor 2060/3060 MINI

that is a way better upgrade if you decide to keep the pc

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual-mini/dual-rtx3060ti-8g-mini-v2/

https://rog.asus.com/event/psu/asus-power-supply-calculator/global/index.html
mobo and psu are not standard atx
they are tied to the case and cannot be upgraded separately
Tonepoet 2024 年 10 月 16 日 上午 4:28 
引用自 ZhoraLeonPrisRoy
Thank you for the reply. I found the hp psu that matches. It goes to 500w. Thoughts?

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Gaming-Desktops/HP-Pavilion-TG01-0199-PSU-Upgrade/td-p/7636129

Yeah, the power supply exists, but people offering it secondhand on the market overcharge for it because they know they've got you in a bind for options if you're even considering it. Part of system maintenance is knowing when to abandon ship rather than hanging onto dear life trying to upgrade a system because of the sunken cost you already put into it.

I think your platform is just viable enough to continue upgrading, but I wouldn't chase after that power supply to do it.

Instead I'd probably suggest buying an RTX 4060. It's a somewhat derided card since it's not the best price to perf. on the market, and we're kind of pushing the limits of what 8 gigabytes of V.R.A.M. can accomplish even at 1080p, and it makes tradeoffs with its predecessor that kind of render it more of a cross-generational side-grade.

However, it's not bad performance for the 115 watt T.D.P. I think most variants only need an 8 pin connector. I know the Zotac Gaming Geforce RTX 4060 8gb Solo[www.zotac.com] only has a single 6+2 pin connector.

I also did some D.O.A. testing of an RX 580 on my system. I doubt I had it pegged 'cause the g5905 is a pretty weak dual core celeron processor, but it's a less efficient card with a T.D.P. of 185 watts, so it'd only have to have been 62% to theoretically match the power consumption metric of the RTX 4060, and I did hear the fans whir when I ran furmark. Don't exactly know where the card is right now to check what the actual utilization is right now though.

I'd guess you could probably push 115 watts. I say maybe 'cause the 1650 super is only a 95 watt T.D.P. card though, and I do see a few online sources tentatively suggesting you should be able to push an RTX 4060 on 300 watts. Nothing particularly authoritative though and I won't personally make any promises though unless I rummage around to find my 10400f, the RX 580 and some thermal goop to do a more conclusive test though.
最後修改者:Tonepoet; 2024 年 10 月 16 日 上午 4:29
r.linder 2024 年 10 月 16 日 下午 7:55 
Majority of 4060s only need a single 8 pin because it's really not power hungry enough to need more than that
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