Trying to keep a laptop's AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS cool.

[Birthday Medic]

This has been bothering me for quite some time. I recently got my hands on the ROG Zephyrus G14 and it's been a dream to use, but keeping this thing cool enough to protect its life has been absolute hell.

I've been told that a PC's CPU shouldn't surpass 90C. Using the Armoury Crate app, I've been able to keep VRChat levels below 80C by putting it into Turbo, but other games still fluctuate, and have hit maxes of 88C. I'm considering getting a cooling pad, but I feel like it won't quite be enough, and I don't have the tech knowledge to figure this out on my own.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Omega]

For a laptop 80-90c should be expected and is perfectly fine. Not ideal but fine, laptops just have poor cooling, there is nothing you can do about it.

[_I_]

^ this
laptop cooling pad, or play in a freezer

[Birthday Medic]

Alright, I'm glad that it's not anything bad at least; Trying to find proper info on this has been a nightmare. I don't want to trash this thing like my last one.

I will invest in a cooling pad in the near future!

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

I had to undervolt my laptop to get it to stop doing that. I guess I could've re-applied thermal material. Everytime I do that it doesn't really change anything though so I didn't waste my time with it.

[r.linder]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Omega:

For a laptop 80-90c should be expected and is perfectly fine. Not ideal but fine, laptops just have poor cooling, there is nothing you can do about it.

Exactly this. You really wouldn't have to worry until it reaches over 100 degrees, as the maximum temperature specification for the R9 5900HS (according to AMD's website) is 105 degrees.

Get a cooling pad, and undervolt your CPU if possible. Undervolting could slightly improve performance as well, if the CPU is normally drawing too much voltage, a consequence of how Ryzen CPUs use Precision Boost, since it's too difficult to tailor the algorithm for every single binned CPU, they have to generalise it for all of their chips so some use too much voltage while others might use too little.

[Abyssal]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von N U T:

This has been bothering me for quite some time. I recently got my hands on the ROG Zephyrus G14 and it's been a dream to use, but keeping this thing cool enough to protect its life has been absolute hell.

I've been told that a PC's CPU shouldn't surpass 90C. Using the Armoury Crate app, I've been able to keep VRChat levels below 80C by putting it into Turbo, but other games still fluctuate, and have hit maxes of 88C. I'm considering getting a cooling pad, but I feel like it won't quite be enough, and I don't have the tech knowledge to figure this out on my own.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

idk im just trying to complete badges

[Birthday Medic]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Escorve:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Omega:

For a laptop 80-90c should be expected and is perfectly fine. Not ideal but fine, laptops just have poor cooling, there is nothing you can do about it.

Exactly this. You really wouldn't have to worry until it reaches over 100 degrees, as the maximum temperature specification for the R9 5900HS (according to AMD's website) is 105 degrees.

Get a cooling pad, and undervolt your CPU if possible. Undervolting could slightly improve performance as well, if the CPU is normally drawing too much voltage, a consequence of how Ryzen CPUs use Precision Boost, since it's too difficult to tailor the algorithm for every single binned CPU, they have to generalise it for all of their chips so some use too much voltage while others might use too little.

I'm not quite sure how I would go about undervolting, I've never even heard of such a thing before. (Again, not very tech knowledgeable.) My current CPU voltage displays anywhere between 1350mV and 1460mV; It tends to lean towards the lower side when gaming.

[r.linder]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von N U T:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Escorve:

Exactly this. You really wouldn't have to worry until it reaches over 100 degrees, as the maximum temperature specification for the R9 5900HS (according to AMD's website) is 105 degrees.

Get a cooling pad, and undervolt your CPU if possible. Undervolting could slightly improve performance as well, if the CPU is normally drawing too much voltage, a consequence of how Ryzen CPUs use Precision Boost, since it's too difficult to tailor the algorithm for every single binned CPU, they have to generalise it for all of their chips so some use too much voltage while others might use too little.

I'm not quite sure how I would go about undervolting, I've never even heard of such a thing before. (Again, not very tech knowledgeable.) My current CPU voltage displays anywhere between 1350mV and 1460mV; It tends to lean towards the lower side when gaming.

It's something that will probably have to be done in BIOS assuming your laptop's BIOS allows undervolting. Given the brand and lineup, I would assume you can.

It would basically entail using a negative Dynamic vCore Offset value, i.e. 1 step back would be only 6mv but that can make a difference. You'd basically be dialing it back until it becomes too unstable or hampers performance. Usually after 2 steps (12mv) it starts to hurt performance on desktop Ryzen

[Birthday Medic]

I see. Considering how much the voltage already fluctuates, I don't think it'll have much of a positive effect to begin with. I'm especially afraid to affect the performance on anything because I play a few CPU intensive games.

If it does come to that though, I won't be the one at the keyboard. XD I've never touched the BIOS on anything I've owned in my life.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Laptops are going to hit upwards of 90*C while Gaming.
It's pretty much always been this way and there's nothing wrong with it running that hot.
I would suggest however keeping the Laptop as clean as possible over time, inside and out.
And also elevate the laptop (I used to just use a small kitchen cooling rack) at all times and never sit it on your lap, or on soft places like a couch or bed.

Undervolt the CPU as much as you can in order to get it to run cooler.

[UserNotFound]

I don't use a lappy now, but back when I was using one, I'd get an active laptop cooler (you know, the thing with fans that your lappy rests on as it blows cool air under your lappy where the intake vents are....at least, that was how it was years ago when I was using a lappy). I recall it helped a fair bit with cooling the laptop I was using.

[gesundheit]

All great info above. A good quality laptop cooler does help bring fresh air to the bottom side intake. Depending on ambient temps, my cooler dropped the idle temps by about 4*C. Playing a CPU intensive game will render the cooling effect nearly unmeasurable. But at least you'll have the piece of mind in knowing there is fresh cool(er) air going into the intake and not warm stagnant air.

[Talby]

>limit the FPS by the AMD Radeon Software tool

as mentioned this should tame your temps quite a bit - if your GPU is AMD it's the "radeon chill" option, or if you have Nvidia use RTSS (the Rivatuner part of MSI Afterburner)

Just adjust your max FPS to match your monitor, in conjunction with a cooling pad should make a big difference in max temps - I use RTSS on my i5-8300h / 1050ti laptop, without it the fan is max loud and temps hit 95C very quickly even with a cooling pad.