Gaming laptop help, please.

[Julian Assange]

Hi all, I'm getting at least $700 in 2-3 days and I want to get a PS4 or laptop for gaming. I have been looking at manafacturer refurbished laptops since they are very cheap and only have very small damage to them which is not a problem for performance.

I found
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Acer-Aspire-V5-571PG-15-6-Intel-CORE-i7-8GB-1TB-2GB-GPU-Win8-NX-M8MSA-002/231199002956?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3D8211299774568575577%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D20140106155344%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D121279866409&rt=nc
it seems good and the price is amazing, I just need some help with the graphics card it has. The seller said it has NVIDIA GeForce 710M. My question is: Can this run Black Ops 2, Call of Duty: Ghosts, battlefield 4, watch_dogs and other of the latest games?

Thank for the help if you did.

[46 and 2]

Do not get that laptop needs to be higher then a 650 750 videocard that is not a gaming laptop that well run terrible. you need to spend more then a 1000 bucks for a gaming laptop that is a FACT even used. anything below X40,X30,like 740,730,720M is terrible for gamiing. same thing with amd videocards in laptops needs to be higher then 750 like 760M minimum for gaming.

[46 and 2]

http://www.newegg.com/Gaming-Notebooks/Category/ID-363

[My name is Jonas ツ]

I bought a gaming laptop and I wish I would have just bought a desktop instead. This is the link to mine if you were wondering what I have. http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX70_3BE.html
If I were you I would either save up enough money for a desktop or just go with the ps4

[Julian Assange]

46 and 2 の投稿を引用：

Do not get that laptop needs to be higher then a 650 750 videocard that is not a gaming laptop that well run terrible. you need to spend more then a 1000 bucks for a gaming laptop that is a FACT even used. anything below X40,X30,like 740,730,720M is terrible for gamiing. same thing with amd videocards in laptops needs to be higher then 750 like 760M minimum for gaming.

My cousin has 740m and gets good gameplay.

[46 and 2]

710m is worst. you wont be able to battlefield 4 even on low settings and also watch dogs, and cod ghosts.

[Julian Assange]

What about this laptop? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Toshiba-Satellite-P850-040-15-6-HD-Laptop-PC-i7-3-3GHz-8GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-/131121634084?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item1e87755b24&_uhb=1

Has gt 630m 2gb graphics but is a great laptop and I really want it.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Acer Aspire V5-571PG has GT 710M ~ Do not buy it. It will be no better than a laptop that just has Intel GPU (like HD 4000 series)

If u do not get at least an NVIDIA 650 or 750 GPU it will be crap for games; so please know what u are buying.

[Julian Assange]

Bad-Motha の投稿を引用：

Acer Aspire V5-571PG has GT 710M ~ Do not buy it. It will be no better than a laptop that just has Intel GPU (like HD 4000 series)

If u do not get at least an NVIDIA 650 or 750 GPU it will be crap for games; so please know what u are buying.

I don't need to have a whole lot of FPS. 24 FPS is all anyone needs to play a game. That toshiba laptop will do me good.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

In most games u need something like GT 640M just to get a decent average though.
710M is just better at hardware acceleration for entertainment/HD purposes compare to the Intel HD. It is not for gaming!

If u want to buy junk, go right ahead. You dont need our help then.

[Astraea Kisaragi]

With a bit of logic you can guess the performance of some cards just by looking at the numbers.
First is the generation, second is the model, third is either 0, 0M or 5 - standalone, integrated, mobile. The most important is the second, the model number.
GT cards
1,2 - office use, depending on generation the performance in video acceleration
3 - home media, basic gaming
4 - home media, gaming according generation
GTX
5,6 - mid level gaming cards
7,8 - pro gaming cards

Of course desktop version are always stronger as the laptop versions and the generation also can play role - the GTX 750 beats the GTX 480 in almost all games.
The 710M is trash, the 630M is better but still not for gaming. The 2GB is decoration only, due the low memory bus it bottlenecks itself and cannot even use 1GB from it.
24FPS is possible, but with lowered details. Of course it will hardly run new games like Watch Dogs on any detail. But it's your money, not mine.

[Julian Assange]

akiranyo の投稿を引用：

With a bit of logic you can guess the performance of some cards just by looking at the numbers.
First is the generation, second is the model, third is either 0, 0M or 5 - standalone, integrated, mobile. The most important is the second, the model number.
GT cards
1,2 - office use, depending on generation the performance in video acceleration
3 - home media, basic gaming
4 - home media, gaming according generation
GTX
5,6 - mid level gaming cards
7,8 - pro gaming cards

Of course desktop version are always stronger as the laptop versions and the generation also can play role - the GTX 750 beats the GTX 480 in almost all games.
The 710M is trash, the 630M is better but still not for gaming. The 2GB is decoration only, due the low memory bus it bottlenecks itself and cannot even use 1GB from it.
24FPS is possible, but with lowered details. Of course it will hardly run new games like Watch Dogs on any detail. But it's your money, not mine.

I found a good Toshiba laptop, $605. Specs:
General

Intel® Core™ i7 processor 3630M (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 1600MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache)
Windows 8 (64bit)
15.6" Widescreen HD LED Backlit Display (1366 x 768)
4GB DDR3 (1600Mhz)
750GB (5400rpm) with Toshiba HDD Accelerator
nVIDIA GeForce GT 740M 2GB With Optimus + Intel® HD 4000 Graphics
DVD-SuperMulti Drive
Microphone & Headphone ports
ONKYO speakers
HD Webcam/Microphone
Battery, AC Adapter & Power cable
Part Number: PSKL6A-013004
Expansion

3 USB Ports (2x USB 3.0 & 1x USB 2.0) + Sleep & Charge
Bridge Media Slot (SD, SDHC, SDXC, xD, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, MMC)
SVGA Video Port - RGB
HDMI
Communication

1Gbps LAN
802.11(b/g/n) WLAN
Toshiba Bluetooth™ V4.0
DLNA Compatible

The ram is not a problem, I have other laptop ram that will fit or i could buy some.

[Pomelo]

Error の投稿を引用：

Bad-Motha の投稿を引用：

Acer Aspire V5-571PG has GT 710M ~ Do not buy it. It will be no better than a laptop that just has Intel GPU (like HD 4000 series)

If u do not get at least an NVIDIA 650 or 750 GPU it will be crap for games; so please know what u are buying.

I don't need to have a whole lot of FPS. 24 FPS is all anyone needs to play a game. That toshiba laptop will do me good.

Absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. 24fps in games is stuttering like hell. Game framerates dont work like movie framerates. The way the image is created requires way higher framerates in games to feel smooth.

ED: That Toshiba laptop you put in #13 has a good CPU, but the GPU is still entry level. 740M is better than the HD4000, but you dont get any high resolutions or high settings in games. More like around 720p on medium settings perhaps. Plus, the RAM is on the small side, but you said you have other RAM ("other"? replacing those 4GB with more but way slower RAM wont help too much).

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just get a PS4; your budget is not going to allow for a "gaming laptop"
Otherwise look to spend at least $850 for something worth-while.

[I AM THE DOCTOR NOW]

Error の投稿を引用：

I don't need to have a whole lot of FPS. 24 FPS is all anyone needs to play a game. That toshiba laptop will do me good.

If you want to game sub 30 fps then fine but don't complain if you get heavy stuttering and framedrops.

Gaming is not the same as films, as you are the one controlling the character. With 30+ (60 is quite optimal) framerate your controls are more responsive.

Just get a PS4, don't bother with sub par "gaming" laptops. And If you really need to spend some money on a gaming PC then make your own custom build.

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

if you can add more funds to your minimum 700$ +, then take a look at these brand new items:
A. 949$

http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_customed&model_name=NP4658

this item has:
2GB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce GT 840M GPU with Optimus Technology / Embedded Intel HD Graphics

15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1080)
2GB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce GT 840M GPU with Optimus Technology / Embedded Intel HD Graphics
4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4710MQ Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.50GHz)
Genuine MS Windows® 8.1 64-Bit Edition
8GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 1 X 8GB
750GB 7200rpm SATA2 Hard Drive
8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Internal 802.11 B+G+N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Combo Module
Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
Microsoft Office 2013 Trial - Included in Price
Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty

B. 999$

http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_customed&model_name=NP6658

this item has:
2GB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce GTX 850M GPU with Optimus Technology / Embedded Intel HD Graphics