3700X to 5700X3D or 7900X

[jonzuk]

is it worth getting the 5700X3D or paying an extra 537 to get everything i need for the 7900X, currently have the x470 asus prime mobo so the 5700X3D still works on it im pretty sure if it doesnt than this post if worthless but i cant figure it out right now

[primeinsurrection]

It depends on what you are doing with it, or what kind of games you like to play, and how much you want to spend. You do not NEED the 7900x as no game specs will require that. But it can better your gaming experience in many ways.

You ask if its worth it? I have one but this is my lifestyle. Get the 7900X3D if you can. If you cannot get the 3D, I would just get the 5700X3D because its made for gaming. And use parts picker to make sure it is compatible. I have it because I run multiple screens, watch movies, do development work, run 4k monitors with high resolutions, and so on. If all you want to do is be able to game then get something less expensive.

[gwwak]

What is your GPU right now?

[jonzuk]

引用自 gwwak：

What is your GPU right now?

RX 6800

[Illusion of Progress]

You might find this helpful...

https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/amd-r7-3700x-r5-3600-2024-revisit-benchmarks-vs-7800x3d-5700x3d-more

It has your 3700X, the 5700X3D, and the 7900X. The latter is missing from the first game results (it's present in others), but both the 7700X and 7950X are present so you can guesstimate it a bit in that one.

If this is mostly for games or otherwise light general stuff (as opposed to highly threaded productivity), then the 5700X3D should be within reaching distance of the 7900X, if not better, since the 5800X3D already is plus or minus the gaming performance of the 7900X, and the 5700X3D is like 5% to 10% slower than the 5800X3D (or less when masked by GPU limitations).

So for gaming, the 7900X is definitely not worth an extra $500 in my opinion, no. If you're already on AM4 and a big part of the focus is gaming, then in my mind, nothing short of going all the way to the 7800X3D or 9800X3D is worth changing to AM5 over just yet, precisely because the 5700X3D exists and is so cheap and comes so close (if not exceeding) the non-X3D AM5 CPUs.

Even if you were doing highly threaded productivity, which is the only place you'd see a bigger difference with the 7900X, you would still need to look at the fact that a 5900X is also going to be much cheaper for you, even if it's less performance than the 7900X.

[Lord Flashheart]

引用自 jonzuk：

is it worth getting the 5700X3D or paying an extra 537 to get everything i need for the 7900X, currently have the x470 asus prime mobo so the 5700X3D still works on it im pretty sure if it doesnt than this post if worthless but i cant figure it out right now

If you mainly game, the 5700X3D is the obvious choice. Update BIOS. Change CPU & no need to reinstall the operating system.

If not, then then there is the extra cost of memory/motherboard. Also the trouble of changing it out and reinstall of the operating system. If you have a very good reason, then fair enough. Maybe it is related to your livelihood.

[UserNotFound]

I went from a 3900X to a 5900X to a 5700X3D (on an high end X570 mobo), while the framerate bump from the 3900X to the 5900X was noticeable, the jump to the 5700X3d was less so, but I do notice better or more consistent framerates. This is with an RX 7900XTX and 32GB RAM, and the games I've played recently are Space Marine 2, The Forever Winter and Black Myth Wukong.

Sure, IF I were to completely upgrade to the AM5 platform, with a 7900X (or, better yet, the 7900X3D) I would see better framerate, but seeing that I'm netting >100fps in many of the games I'm playing, I don't see a need to upgrade to AM5. BTW, I did not sell off the 5900X, it's in my 2nd rig which I use for gaming (sometimes), as well as well as some productivity work (purely as a hobbyist).

[Guydodge]

no real way to answer this as one very important piece of information is missing
what resolution are you running and what expectations do you have ? i'll say this
much though if your planning on keeping a rx 6800 seems like the 5700x3d
seems the logical choice.not a amd fan and doing a little research it appears
the youtube shills dont like to stack up the amd cpu's against one another much
in anything but 1080p as with 1440 or 4k the performance difference diminishes
greatly.with all that your 3700x is a weak point.

[jonzuk]

引用自 Guydodge：

no real way to answer this as one very important piece of information is missing
what resolution are you running and what expectations do you have ? i'll say this
much though if your planning on keeping a rx 6800 seems like the 5700x3d
seems the logical choice.not a amd fan and doing a little research it appears
the youtube shills dont like to stack up the amd cpu's against one another much
in anything but 1080p as with 1440 or 4k the performance difference diminishes
greatly.with all that your 3700x is a weak point.

I have 1440p 144hz right now but I want to get a 4k monitor and play games in 4k at 144hz if the 5700x3d can do that i wont upgrade to AM5, but i also process a lot of archive files so i might want to upgrade

[SHREDDER]

i ALSO plan to change cpu ram and motherboard but i suggest you to get ryzen 9000 and x870 motherboard than 5000 or 7000 because they are old now.
I have
RYZEN 1700
16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15
RX 6700XT 12 GB RED DEVIL
MP 600 2TB WRITE:4950MB/S READ:4250MB/S
DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60HZ IPS
I think a Ryzen 9700x with 32 GB DDR5 6400MHZ and X870 motherboard will be a good choice if i decide to do it soon. Do you agree?

However the trurh is that while ihave this cpu ram and motherboard since 2017 the pc became very fast in2020 when i got the sdd and since then it loads evrything in 1 second(windos, games programs, internet, movies) which means that there is not realy any reaosn to change them yet.

And as for games it runs evrything maxed 1440p 60 fps since 2021 when i got rx 6700xt and i only use fsr in those gfames who have ray tracing to run them with max graphics ans max ray traicng 1440p 60 fps while those tho dont have ray tracing dont nee fsr as it still runs them maxed 1440p 60 fps without it
What should ido? change them now or keep them until one of the 3 dies and change them them? Ikept my previous cpu also until it died(2011- 2017) while upgrading the rest of the system like what idid with this cpu. WHat of the two option is the best?

[SHREDDER]

引用自 jonzuk：

引用自 Guydodge：

no real way to answer this as one very important piece of information is missing
what resolution are you running and what expectations do you have ? i'll say this
much though if your planning on keeping a rx 6800 seems like the 5700x3d
seems the logical choice.not a amd fan and doing a little research it appears
the youtube shills dont like to stack up the amd cpu's against one another much
in anything but 1080p as with 1440 or 4k the performance difference diminishes
greatly.with all that your 3700x is a weak point.

I have 1440p 144hz right now but I want to get a 4k monitor and play games in 4k at 144hz if the 5700x3d can do that i wont upgrade to AM5, but i also process a lot of archive files so i might want to upgrade

will you get a 27'' 4k 144 hz monitor? and will you keep the rx 6800 more or change it when you get the monitor?

[jonzuk]

引用自 SHREDDER：

引用自 jonzuk：

I have 1440p 144hz right now but I want to get a 4k monitor and play games in 4k at 144hz if the 5700x3d can do that i wont upgrade to AM5, but i also process a lot of archive files so i might want to upgrade

will you get a 27'' 4k 144 hz monitor? and will you keep the rx 6800 more or change it when you get the monitor?

Keeping the RX 6800 why? Is that not good enough for 4K? I plan to get a 32 inch 4k 144hz

[smokerob79]

for 4k you really want to be over a 7900xt......6800 will not do well at 4k.....it wont do that well even at 1440p......at 4k you really are looking at a whole new build.....new mother cpu and GPU.....

[SHREDDER]

引用自 jonzuk：

引用自 SHREDDER：

will you get a 27'' 4k 144 hz monitor? and will you keep the rx 6800 more or change it when you get the monitor?

Keeping the RX 6800 why? Is that not good enough for 4K? I plan to get a 32 inch 4k 144hz

I Have a 24'' 1440p 60 hz and ihave it since 2016.iI will also keep my 6700xt as it runs all games maxed 1440p 60 fps. Now with FSR we can get double the perfomance ingames with the same card and FSRis somethign that can make a game that could had run at let say 50 or 40 fps on 6800 or 6700xt maxed 4k, can now run at 60 fps! You need RTX 4080 or 4090 or RX 7900 7900XT if you want to run most games maxed 4k without FSR but even those two cards cant run all games maxed 4k 60 fps without FSR. And you also need a 1200 war psu and a very big case if you plan to get one of those two cards

[jonzuk]

引用自 SHREDDER：

引用自 jonzuk：

Keeping the RX 6800 why? Is that not good enough for 4K? I plan to get a 32 inch 4k 144hz

I Have a 24'' 1440p 60 hz and ihave it since 2016.iI will also keep my 6700xt as it runs all games maxed 1440p 60 fps. Now with FSR we can get double the perfomance ingames with the same card and FSRis somethign that can make a game that could had run at let say 50 or 40 fps on 6800 or 6700xt maxed 4k, can now run at 60 fps! You need RTX 4080 or 4090 or RX 7900 7900XT if you want to run most games maxed 4k without FSR but even those two cards cant run all games maxed 4k 60 fps without FSR. And you also need a 1200 war psu and a very big case if you plan to get one of those two cards

you can get 60FPS in 4k on GTA 5 which is pretty good for me I play mostly older titles like battlefield 4 and black ops 3 which run fine on 4k if i set it to that on here now i dont plan on playing the unreal engine 5 games or newer intense to run games and i am going to emulate games into 4k that i have for my older systems, Also i used to play on a laptop years ago so im used to playing games on like 30-40 fps already if it can atleast run that i would be fine for the few newer titles i would play like gta 6, would like to hear your thoughts, Thanks

[SHREDDER]

引用自 jonzuk：

引用自 SHREDDER：

I Have a 24'' 1440p 60 hz and ihave it since 2016.iI will also keep my 6700xt as it runs all games maxed 1440p 60 fps. Now with FSR we can get double the perfomance ingames with the same card and FSRis somethign that can make a game that could had run at let say 50 or 40 fps on 6800 or 6700xt maxed 4k, can now run at 60 fps! You need RTX 4080 or 4090 or RX 7900 7900XT if you want to run most games maxed 4k without FSR but even those two cards cant run all games maxed 4k 60 fps without FSR. And you also need a 1200 war psu and a very big case if you plan to get one of those two cards

you can get 60FPS in 4k on GTA 5 which is pretty good for me I play mostly older titles like battlefield 4 and black ops 3 which run fine on 4k if i set it to that on here now i dont plan on playing the unreal engine 5 games or newer intense to run games and i am going to emulate games into 4k that i have for my older systems, Also i used to play on a laptop years ago so im used to playing games on like 30-40 fps already if it can atleast run that i would be fine for the few newer titles i would play like gta 6, would like to hear your thoughts, Thanks

i play all action games as you see in my profile. iplayed gta 5 at release date 1080p maxed 60 fps. in 2015.