From i5 12400f to i7 14700k

[DeathMetalJedi]

My 12400f has served me well over the last couple years but I’m starting to see it drag my 4070 down quite a bit in some games like stalker 2 and space marine 2 where I know it should be getting much better performance. I think it’s finally time for an upgrade. Especially since I’m considering getting a 5080 to replace my 4070 when the 5000 series cards release. Is there a better upgrade I can buy in this price range or is the 14700k pretty much the best option?

[Crashed]

If you are using the same motherboard a mon-F CPU won't have much of an advantage unless your motherboard has a display connector. Also you want ti make sure your BIOS is up to date to reduce the risk of Raptor Lake degradation.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Are you playing @ 1080p ?

[Guydodge]

from a 12400f @4.4ghhz to a 14700k @5.4ghz ..you dont need any better and if your
running 1440 or 4k a 14700k will be good for years to come.easily handle a 5000 series
and you may be disappointed by the 5000 series rumor has it they are no better than the
4000 series just more energy efficient,we shall see.

[D. Flame]

What you have should be sufficient. If you want something better, switch to an AMD CPU with "X3D" in its name, such as a 7800x3D. That means they have a 3D cache, and it makes them the best chips for gaming.

[Guydodge]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

What you have should be sufficient. If you want something better, switch to an AMD CPU with "X3D" in its name, such as a 7800x3D. That means they have a 3D cache, and it makes them the best chips for gaming.

amd shill.. no top end cpu has an advantage in gaming all sytems are equal at 1440 or
4k it will remain that way for some time a 14700 would be a very nice upgrade for
a 4070 and with a newer and better card the 14700 will be a must.

with a 12700k and above theres no reason to upgrade be it amd or intel.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Guydodge:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

What you have should be sufficient. If you want something better, switch to an AMD CPU with "X3D" in its name, such as a 7800x3D. That means they have a 3D cache, and it makes them the best chips for gaming.

amd shill.. no top end cpu has an advantage in gaming all sytems are equal at 1440 or
4k it will remain that way for some time a 14700 would be a very nice upgrade for
a 4070 and with a newer and better card the 14700 will be a must.

a 12700k and above theres no reason to upgrade be it amd or intel.

Don't get mad at me for telling the truth. And I am no AMD shill. I make no secret of the fact that I use a 13400F + a 4060Ti. I am just not a fanboy, and I can give credit where credit is due.

[DeathMetalJedi]

I’m not understanding the reason folks are saying there is little to no advantage or reason to upgrade. The logical reasoning and necessity of an upgrade isn’t what I’m worried about. I realize I don’t NEED to upgrade. I’m sure I can get many more years of life out of my 12400f if I wanted to. That being said, everything I’ve seen online shows a 20-30 fps increase basically across the board in most games going from my 12400f, and similarly powered 12th gen cpus. That’s pretty significant, especially for games that are getting just under my refresh rate target of 144hz. The same goes for those extremely intensive games like wukong, stalker 2 and space marine 2 where I need to rely on frame gen to get 120fps and I’m not quite reaching 60fps to begin with. My question wasn’t whether it not to upgrade. I’m certainly going to upgrade. I just wanted to get people’s opinion on whether the 14700k is the best performance increase in its price range? If AMD has something similarly priced that has significantly better performance, I would consider that as well. Although shelling out for a new MOBO would be less than ideal, honestly. Especially considering the 14700k still uses the same LGA 1700 chipset as my 12400f.

[DeathMetalJedi]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Are you playing @ 1080p ?

1440p @ 144hz

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by DeathMetalJedi:

I’m not understanding the reason folks are saying there is little to no advantage or reason to upgrade. The logical reasoning and necessity of an upgrade isn’t what I’m worried about. I realize I don’t NEED to upgrade. I’m sure I can get many more years of life out of my 12400f if I wanted to. That being said, everything I’ve seen online shows a 20-30 fps increase basically across the board in most games going from my 12400f, and similarly powered 12th gen cpus. That’s pretty significant, especially for games that are getting just under my refresh rate target of 144hz. The same goes for those extremely intensive games like wukong, stalker 2 and space marine 2 where I need to rely on frame gen to get 120fps and I’m not quite reaching 60fps to begin with. My question wasn’t whether it not to upgrade. I’m certainly going to upgrade. I just wanted to get people’s opinion on whether the 14700k is the best performance increase in its price range? If AMD has something similarly priced that has significantly better performance, I would consider that as well. Although shelling out for a new MOBO would be less than ideal, honestly. Especially considering the 14700k still uses the same LGA 1700 chipset as my 12400f.

the X3D will increase performance is ways that don't really show up in benchmarks. The same is not try for other LGA1700 chips.

If you want to know if you can get more performance, then install something like MSI Afterburner and have it display your GPU usage. If your GPU usage is sitting at 97 to 100% usage the vast majority of the time, then a new CPU is not likely to offer more performance.

If your GPU is constantly dipping into the 70 or 80% range, then it is likely waiting on your CPU, and you could get more performace by either pumping up the graphics options (making the GPU work harder) or by getting a new CPU (that can keep up with your GPU).

[smokerob79]

Originally posted by Guydodge:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

What you have should be sufficient. If you want something better, switch to an AMD CPU with "X3D" in its name, such as a 7800x3D. That means they have a 3D cache, and it makes them the best chips for gaming.

amd shill.. no top end cpu has an advantage in gaming all sytems are equal at 1440 or
4k it will remain that way for some time a 14700 would be a very nice upgrade for
a 4070 and with a newer and better card the 14700 will be a must.

with a 12700k and above theres no reason to upgrade be it amd or intel.

lies....AMD is still the best option....the upgrade path alone makes AMD better.....but real gaming performance makes intel a joke.....its funny you cry about AMD shill when you proved your a intel shrill......

everything is equal at 4k and 1440p??? no child......

[Guydodge]

Originally posted by smokerob79:

Originally posted by Guydodge:

amd shill.. no top end cpu has an advantage in gaming all sytems are equal at 1440 or
4k it will remain that way for some time a 14700 would be a very nice upgrade for
a 4070 and with a newer and better card the 14700 will be a must.

with a 12700k and above theres no reason to upgrade be it amd or intel.

lies....AMD is still the best option....the upgrade path alone makes AMD better.....but real gaming performance makes intel a joke.....its funny you cry about AMD shill when you proved your a intel shrill......

everything is equal at 4k and 1440p??? no child......

prove me wrong man child !!! other than being game specific which has to do with the
game either way being a up lift on either cpu.hes a shill because hes telling him to switch platforms even though a 14700 would be good for years to come with the same results
as changing an entire platform for no real gain other that to cause wallet drain.make that make sense.and a 14700 would be a nice upgrade from a 12400f

[_I_]

high res and visual settings is often gpu limited
but 1440p or lower or older games at 4k, and high refresh rate displays will be cpu bound
top end amd cpus do have higher core performance than intels top lineups

currently intels u series is a step down from the 13-14th gen i series

[The_Abortionator]

the 14th gen CPUs are literally killing themselves and the "fixes" aren't even guaranteed to work. Why would you buy one?

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

I wouldn't trust those 14th generation Intel CPUs. I wouldn't even trust 13th gen. If anything get a 12900 so at least you get something good that doesn't have issues.

There's BIOS updates for them, RMAs, undervolting, etc. Who wants to risk that though? Who wants to even be bothered by that?

I have a 12th gen and my PC is destroying games at 120fps 1440p ultra wide. On top of this it also happens to be perfectly stable.

With 13th and 14th gen you get piss poor manufacturing, unstable power delivery, short lifespan, wasteful. I could write a whole article on the shortcomings of these things and the trash service from Intel.

[bstsms]

I have never seen my I9 11900H in my laptop anywhere near maxed out playing any game.
The 3060 is another story... LOL

I bought a Lenovo Legion with th 13th gen I9 and 4080 and don't see much difference in CPU power, but the 4080 made a huge difference.