Best OS for gaming, and why?

[Mr. Marvell]

What the title says - plead your case, I'm curious.
(This is extremely broad of a question, please consider the nuance.)

[Mabi]

a "serious" version has not yet been released to the extended ecosystem.

Slight advantage for Bazzite

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Ontrix_Kitsune:

Escrito originalmente por Mabi:

2) Steam OS - wants to be based on arch, for now it wants to limit itself to its dedicated hardware, because it doesn't care about the various strange hardware things in the world, the basis is the steam library, it can easily bring down any OS whether or not it brings innovation with or without artificial intelligence because they are unstable.

SteamOS can be installed on any computer already: https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

That's a Deck image, Valve hasn't made SteamOS to work seamlessly with desktop machines, just use Bazzite

The other one is unsupported because it's the version from the Steam Machine days when that flopped, based on Debian unlike current SteamOS Holo which is based on Arch

[skOsH♥]

Linux if you feel like spending some extra time setting it up

But if you have any games with an anti-cheat that isn't vac seemingly, they won't launch. Hell Let Loose, Elden Ring, and Faceit AC for CS and other games, I can confirm will not work. It's possible that they're all kernel level AC's and obviously do not like Linux for that reason.

I do remember getting 11fps more on the same settings in Cyberpunk 2077 on my older setup that wasn't very good....I imagine it performed better because my RAM usage was at 4.4gb, not 7.5gb like it is if I use Win11 with only temperature monitoring app and gpu app.

Linux if it doesn't have some dumb anticheat that doesn't like Linux or isn't made on a crap game engine like Starfield for instance that runs the Creation engine still I think...*cough* old as f /*cough*

There are versions of Proton made by a user "GloriousEggroll" that work amazingly. Steam Deck runs on a version of Linux, they picked that for a reason. One might even have better networking with Linux in multiplayer games.

Just...I would go Linux only if running amd cpu and gpu. If it's nvidia for the gpu it won't really like to cooperate unless you customize the crap out of it.

[r.linder]

SteamOS is based on Arch with the latest version, original was based on Debian 8

Nvidia is fine on Linux nowadays and they released open source modules, Wayland works out of the box

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

Escrito originalmente por Ontrix_Kitsune:

SteamOS can be installed on any computer already: https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

That's a Deck image, Valve hasn't made SteamOS to work seamlessly with desktop machines, just use Bazzite

The other one is unsupported because it's the version from the Steam Machine days when that flopped, based on Debian unlike current SteamOS Holo which is based on Arch

You just made it completely obvious that you didn't even read the page I linked to. You just assumed without even clicking on it.

Here I'll show you since you don't read things:

NOTE: This image is not compatible with Steam Deck. If you are looking for the Steam Deck Recovery image, visit this link.

That page I linked to is NOT the Steam Deck Image. That's on a completely different page. What I linked to is the download page for the ISO for SteamOS which yes: we can install it on any computer we want to. I installed it in a Virtual Machine and it works perfectly fine and boots fine. Anyone can install it on any computer. Exactly like I said.

It's even right there in the system requirements on that page:

What are the SteamOS Hardware Requirements?
Processor: Intel or AMD 64-bit capable processor
Memory: 4GB or more RAM
Hard Drive: 200GB or larger disk
Video Card: NVIDIA graphics card
AMD graphics card (RADEON 8500 and later)
Intel graphics

Additional:
USB port for installation
UEFI Firmware (recommended)

It installs on any AMD or Intel 64-bit capable CPU which would span all the way from Core2duo and Athlon64 to current gen hardware.

EDIT: Some further information for you. SteamOS released in 2013 and the Steam Deck was released in 2022. SteamOS was able to be installed and used on any common computer many, many years before the Steam Deck even existed.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Ontrix_Kitsune:

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

That's a Deck image, Valve hasn't made SteamOS to work seamlessly with desktop machines, just use Bazzite

The other one is unsupported because it's the version from the Steam Machine days when that flopped, based on Debian unlike current SteamOS Holo which is based on Arch

You just made it completely obvious that you didn't even read the page I linked to. You just assumed without even clicking on it.

Here I'll show you since you don't read things:

NOTE: This image is not compatible with Steam Deck. If you are looking for the Steam Deck Recovery image, visit this link.

That page I linked to is NOT the Steam Deck Image. That's on a completely different page. What I linked to is the download page for the ISO for SteamOS which yes: we can install it on any computer we want to. I installed it in a Virtual Machine and it works perfectly fine and boots fine. Anyone can install it on any computer. Exactly like I said.

It's even right there in the system requirements on that page:

What are the SteamOS Hardware Requirements?
Processor: Intel or AMD 64-bit capable processor
Memory: 4GB or more RAM
Hard Drive: 200GB or larger disk
Video Card: NVIDIA graphics card
AMD graphics card (RADEON 8500 and later)
Intel graphics

Additional:
USB port for installation
UEFI Firmware (recommended)

It installs on any AMD or Intel 64-bit capable CPU which would span all the way from Core2duo and Athlon64 to current gen hardware.

EDIT: Some further information for you. SteamOS released in 2013 and the Steam Deck was released in 2022. SteamOS was able to be installed and used on any common computer many, many years before the Steam Deck even existed.

You made it obvious that you don't know what you actually linked in the first place. You said:

Escrito originalmente por Ontrix_Kitsune:

SteamOS can be installed on any computer already: https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

That link is to the OLD VERSION of SteamOS which isn't even supported anymore, SteamOS ~2.0, which was based on Debian 8. That came out in 2015, it's not supported, 2.0 hasn't been updated since.
Nobody in their right mind should be installing that version, and yet here you are claiming that SteamOS has already been available for desktops, and you're half right, just not the actual version people are waiting for. Valve hasn't touched that version in quite some time because there's no point, they rebuilt SteamOS when they made the Deck.

SteamOS 3.0+ is based on Arch Linux and is a far superior version as it's actually up to date, Valve is working on bringing it to x86-64 to replace the old junk version, until then people have to use alternatives.

Hence why I recommended Bazzite as it was made to be a multi-platform OS that mimics the Deck's SteamOS. There's also ChimeraOS.

It's you that didn't actually read what you linked in the first place, if you did then you'd know it's an outdated version. I even said that before:

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

SteamOS is based on Arch with the latest version, original was based on Debian 8

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

The other one is unsupported because it's the version from the Steam Machine days when that flopped, based on Debian unlike current SteamOS Holo which is based on Arch

But you ignored that part because you don't want to admit to anything. The reference to the Deck image was in response to you claiming that you can install SteamOS on desktops already.

[The_Abortionator]

Escrito originalmente por skOsH:

But if you have any games with an anti-cheat that isn't vac seemingly, they won't launch.

Right, totally not able to play Payday3, Helldivers 2, Gears 5, Halo 6, Halo MCC, Back 4 Blood, Smite, Dayz, Dead by daylight, The Hunt showdown, Sqaud, War thunder, ARMA 3, Insurgency Sandstorm, Phantasy star online 2 Unturned, Planetside 2, For Honor.... Wait a minute..... ALL of those games play on Linux AND HAVE KERNEL ANTI CHEAT.

Only 3% of games don't work dude. If you aren't going to become familiar with the topic don't bother talking about it.

[The_Abortionator]

Escrito originalmente por ᛗᚱᛗᚨᚱᚠᛖᛚᛚ:

Escrito originalmente por The_Abortionator:

Look I'm not walking on egg shells for anybody. This is the web and especially on this site people are throwing around nonsense already packed with bad attitudes. You expect me to bow down and be super Flanders polite to a guy making up crap about another user and jumping on the platform nonsense battlefield? No.

If you understand I've said nothing false then thats where that thought train should end. Period.

Especially if you want to misuse the word "egotistically". What ego? Explain because as it stands thats just an ad hom. Theres nothing egotistical about calling out BS.

Infact I find it confusing and sad when people care less about miss information being spread or peoples bad behavior and more about the guy calling it out.

The fact you replied to ME and not Xuild speaks volumes.

Don't get me wrong, I never denied that there's misinformation in this thread, there's a ridiculous amount of it, and nearly everyone irrationally believes they're absolutely right. It's disappointing, but what can you do? - call it out, I know, I understand, but it's an endless process and chances are you'll never sway anyone here. All that comes out of this the majority of the time is bitterness.

By no means am I asking anyone to be a meek, conforming weasel, especially in a topic of discussion, facts matter, and you need a backbone to defend your points, but once again, that can be done without spite and unnecessary arrogance while neglecting the nuance of such discussions, the moment you start throwing insults is when the argument's already lost.

Again, this is just virtue signaling. You are literally saying I'm doing something wrong by not bending over backwards to act kind to people already acting worse than my responses.

[The_Abortionator]

Escrito originalmente por skOsH:

But if you have any games with an anti-cheat that isn't vac seemingly, they won't launch. Hell Let Loose, Elden Ring, and Faceit AC for CS and other games, I can confirm will not work.

Dude, you can't confirm anything. I literally just bought Hell let loose to test and it works right out of the box.

Maybe try google before posting.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

That link is to the OLD VERSION of SteamOS which isn't even supported anymore, SteamOS ~2.0, which was based on Debian 8. That came out in 2015, it's not supported, 2.0 hasn't been updated since.

The page I linked to does not say anything at all about which version it is. It's just "SteamOS". It seems that you're completely making up this "Version 2.0" whatever it is you're droning on about just to have some reason to argue. Typical R.Linder at work again. I'm surprised you haven't run afoul of the moderators for argument baiting in the steam forums. It's very obvious what you're trying to do.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Ontrix_Kitsune:

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

That link is to the OLD VERSION of SteamOS which isn't even supported anymore, SteamOS ~2.0, which was based on Debian 8. That came out in 2015, it's not supported, 2.0 hasn't been updated since.

The page I linked to does not say anything at all about which version it is. It's just "SteamOS". It seems that you're completely making up this "Version 2.0" whatever it is you're droning on about just to have some reason to argue. Typical R.Linder at work again. I'm surprised you haven't run afoul of the moderators for argument baiting in the steam forums. It's very obvious what you're trying to do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteamOS#Releases_and_performance

Again, do your research. SteamOS 2.0 was based on Debian 8, and it literally says that on your link. That page is for the OLD AND UNSUPPORTED VERSION of SteamOS which is completely different from the version that's on the Deck, which is version 3.0 and based on Arch Linux rather than Debian, if you didn't know that then now you do, you're welcome.

Escrito originalmente por Valve:

"SteamOS is our Linux-based operating system. The base system draws from Debian 8, code named Debian Jessie. Our work builds on top of the solid Debian core and optimizes it for a living room experience. Most of all, it is an open Linux platform that leaves you in full control. You can take charge of your system and install new software or content that you want."

Excerpt from the top of the page: https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

And in case the severity of the issue is lost on you, Debian 8 lost all support in 2018 so it completely lacks drivers for anything newer than Pascal (GTX 10 series) and Polaris (RX 500 series). Not sure if Valve even kept the kernel up to date with SteamOS 2 but if they didn't, then it's still using kernel ver 4.1 which is even older than Pascal and Polaris, meaning basically any actually relevant GPU lacks drivers in that version of SteamOS, and the latest version won't work properly on desktop machines as Valve hasn't released anything more than an image for handhelds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_version_history#Releases_4.x.y (4.1 released June 2015)

[Mr. Marvell]

Escrito originalmente por The_Abortionator:

Again, this is just virtue signaling. You are literally saying I'm doing something wrong by not bending over backwards to act kind to people already acting worse than my responses.

Come on man, is that all you took away from it?
Forget everything else, all I mean is, you don't have to bend over backwards to kiss ass, but nor do you have to downright hate either. There is a middle ground.
If you really can factually correct someone, do so humbly. Teach, don't hector.

Escrito originalmente por The_Abortionator:

"Welp I was gonna switch to Linux as every game I play works on there but Lixire told me I can't because the two games I don't play dont work. Maybe next year UH DUUUUHRRR".

Not sure what you thought this reply you made would accomplish but so far its only embarrassed you.

Thanks for trying to claim that games people don't play will prevent them from switching to Linux. Very big brain claim.

What a bunch of garbage.

What the actual F? You clearly don't know how Linux works do you?

what the hell do you even mean

This school yard myth your guys have is so bizarre.

You would've gotten your points across just fine without sprinkling these in, or atleast put it a different way, misinformation or not.

[Ontrix_Kitsune]

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

That page is for the OLD AND UNSUPPORTED VERSION

Here's the link again: https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

No where on that page does it say anything about "old" or "unsupported".

You're doing a really terrible job at trying to argue on the internet. 😂🤪

[Komarimaru]

Escrito originalmente por Ontrix_Kitsune:

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

That page is for the OLD AND UNSUPPORTED VERSION

Here's the link again: https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

No where on that page does it say anything about "old" or "unsupported".

You're doing a really terrible job at trying to argue on the internet. 😂🤪

Common knowledge. Came out in 2014 and not updated since, not even a complete OS and based on Debian.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Ontrix_Kitsune:

Escrito originalmente por r.linder:

That page is for the OLD AND UNSUPPORTED VERSION

Here's the link again: https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

No where on that page does it say anything about "old" or "unsupported".

You're doing a really terrible job at trying to argue on the internet. 😂🤪

https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/

Do your research. It's literally a 10 second google search to verify if you really want me to be wrong. Instead you're trying to bait me into saying something stupid so you can report me.

Debian 8 released in 2015 and lost support in 2018 but had some LTS support until mid 2020. Not sure if Valve actually kept up on the updates from Debian 8 and I'm not going to waste my time installing an old version that'll run like crap compared to Arch and Bazzite because it lacks driver support for the latest hardware.

Just stop making excuses for being wrong, you're starting to get other people on your case because you won't accept that you made a mistake.