21:9 vs 32:9 performance hit?

[Witski]

Hi there, im tempted to buy the samsung g9 49" 32:9, how hard my performance tanks with it passing from a 21:9 3440x,1440 to a 5120x1440?
And usually games that supports or half supports 21:9 are ok with 32:9?
Im not afraid of modding games to make them work with ultrawide tho, but usually i don't buy such games unless im super interested and probably all of them natively half supports ultrawide.

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por Che:

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

And those burn stuff are rarely happening?

Sadly, yeah.
You gotta jump trough hoops these days, if you want to use OLED for gaming.
Image quality is chioce, but everything else.......

OLED is like plastic surgery. Where aren't there yet.

So it's bound to happen no matter what? Sometime soon or later?

[Witski]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xUQwB5rti8

Im afraid, if this Josh is nitpicky and doesn't see it, i will.

[Che]

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

Publicado originalmente por Che:

Sadly, yeah.
You gotta jump trough hoops these days, if you want to use OLED for gaming.
Image quality is chioce, but everything else.......

OLED is like plastic surgery. Where aren't there yet.

So it's bound to happen no matter what? Sometime soon or later?

OLEDs by nature of the technology wear out over time in a way that LEDs don't. That's a simple fact. It's up to you to decide.
You could limit screen brightness, use Windows dark mode, and hide static elements like the taskbar. The more you vary the content the better.
It's really good for gaming and it will wear out much slowly than using OlED for browsing (Youtube, etc.), office work and so on.

Like I said, you've to jump trough a dozen hoops.......

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por Che:

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

So it's bound to happen no matter what? Sometime soon or later?

OLEDs by nature of the technology wear out over time in a way that LEDs don't. That's a simple fact. It's up to you to decide.
You could limit screen brightness, use Windows dark mode, and hide static elements like the taskbar. The more you vary the content the better.
It's really good for gaming and it will wear out much slowly than using OlED for browsing (Youtube, etc.), office work and so on.

Like I said, you've to jump trough a dozen hoops.......

The same thing that girl said in the video...if it's true i just play two or three hours after work and if i can a lot during week ends, but if it happens, a repair man could repair it somehow?
By repair man i mean one dude that have a lab for pc parts and stuff.
Other people in the comments in that video said it's not a problem if you play and shut off the monitor and works for years ( their monitor )

[Che]

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

Publicado originalmente por Che:

OLEDs by nature of the technology wear out over time in a way that LEDs don't. That's a simple fact. It's up to you to decide.
You could limit screen brightness, use Windows dark mode, and hide static elements like the taskbar. The more you vary the content the better.
It's really good for gaming and it will wear out much slowly than using OlED for browsing (Youtube, etc.), office work and so on.

Like I said, you've to jump trough a dozen hoops.......

The same thing that girl said in the video...if it's true i just play two or three hours after work and if i can a lot during week ends, but if it happens, a repair man could repair it somehow?
By repair man i mean one dude that have a lab for pc parts and stuff.
Other people in the comments in that video said it's not a problem if you play and shut off the monitor and works for years ( their monitor )

Nope, there is no such things like a quick fix or repair-solution for burn-ins. The only thing you could do if that happens, is to ignore it. That's the sad truth.

But it is also true, that many people have used OLEDS for 2-3 years without any burn-in issues.
I mean, it's possible if you take care of the aspects which I've mentioned in my previous post.
If you use it for gaming only, the chances are pretty high you'll avoid burn-ins for a long period of time.

But be aware, that it can happen any time. :)
Imagine having an emergency call and you leave your house without turning off your display.
This happened to me.

1500 bucks down the drain. Yayyyyyy

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por Che:

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

The same thing that girl said in the video...if it's true i just play two or three hours after work and if i can a lot during week ends, but if it happens, a repair man could repair it somehow?
By repair man i mean one dude that have a lab for pc parts and stuff.
Other people in the comments in that video said it's not a problem if you play and shut off the monitor and works for years ( their monitor )

Nope, there is no such things like a quick fix or repair-solution for burn-ins. The only thing you could do if that happens, is to ignore it. That's the sad truth.

But it is also true, that many people have used OLEDS for 2-3 years without any burn-in issues.
I mean, it's possible if you take care of the aspects which I've mentioned in my previous post.
If you use it for gaming only, the chances are pretty high you'll avoid burn-ins for a long period of time.

But be aware, that it can happen any time. :)
Imagine having an emergency call and you leave your house without turning off your display.
This happened to me.

1500 bucks down the drain. Yayyyyyy

Mh, i guess il gift it myself sometime soon, if i keep pondering about pretty much everything i will never buy a thing ever and probably the cost of this samsung g9 will keep me focus on preventing it, most often than not i take long breaks and leave the the monitor ON doing nothing.

Damn..then i guess the auto shut down of the monitor will help if there is no activity but if im in game i guess it doesn't work.

1500? what did you bought?

[Che]

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

Publicado originalmente por Che:

Nope, there is no such things like a quick fix or repair-solution for burn-ins. The only thing you could do if that happens, is to ignore it. That's the sad truth.

But it is also true, that many people have used OLEDS for 2-3 years without any burn-in issues.
I mean, it's possible if you take care of the aspects which I've mentioned in my previous post.
If you use it for gaming only, the chances are pretty high you'll avoid burn-ins for a long period of time.

But be aware, that it can happen any time. :)
Imagine having an emergency call and you leave your house without turning off your display.
This happened to me.

1500 bucks down the drain. Yayyyyyy

Mh, i guess il gift it myself sometime soon, if i keep pondering about pretty much everything i will never buy a thing ever and probably the cost of this samsung g9 will keep me focus on preventing it, most often than not i take long breaks and leave the the monitor ON doing nothing.

Damn..then i guess the auto shut down of the monitor will help if there is no activity but if im in game i guess it doesn't work.

1500? what did you bought?

The monitor in question was a AW3423DW. I bought it around 3 years ago and left my house while playing Forza Horizon 5 and came back after around 4 hours. But it was too late.......

But I guess we only live once and if you want to treat yourself, go ahead. Just be cautious, that's all.
Enjoy yourself. :) OLED really looks great. It's hard to switch back.

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por Che:

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

Mh, i guess il gift it myself sometime soon, if i keep pondering about pretty much everything i will never buy a thing ever and probably the cost of this samsung g9 will keep me focus on preventing it, most often than not i take long breaks and leave the the monitor ON doing nothing.

Damn..then i guess the auto shut down of the monitor will help if there is no activity but if im in game i guess it doesn't work.

1500? what did you bought?

The monitor in question was a AW3423DW. I bought it around 3 years ago and left my house while playing Forza Horizon 5 and came back after around 4 hours. But it was too late.......

But I guess we only live once and if you want to treat yourself, go ahead. Just be cautious, that's all.
Enjoy yourself. :) OLED really looks great. It's hard to switch back.

Yeah, ill probably like it, i've recently bought a mini led tv and it looks great but even my current monitor looks great being IPS ( i was/am one of those guys that prefers IPS for true colours rather than over saturated colours from oleds but i started to like it watching my TCL 55" mini led tv, it's not oled but if i understand right it came closer to it)

[Che]

Yeah, IPS over VA any day.
It's not even debatable when we're talking about color accuracy.

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por Che:

Yeah, IPS over VA any day.
It's not even debatable when we're talking about color accuracy.

Yeah, never tried a VA ever ( i think ) always bought IPS and it was hard to find this beauty of iiyama gb3461wqsu 31" 21:9 3440x1440p IPS panel, bought it for 300 or 400 i believe, love it.

Other than samsung there are better alternatives for OLED? Maybe something from 2024, read somewhere that over the years they calmed down the burn in effect but not removed.

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧Kei]

Publicado originalmente por De Hollandse Ezel:

Publicado originalmente por Schrute_Farms_B&B:

If your setup cant handle 4K @16:9, dont even think about switching to 1440p @32:9. I know, aprox. one million pixels less to to utilize, but the total GPU utilization is about the same.

It totally depends on the games you want to play, but if youre aiming for AAA titles, I wouldnt bother with anything less than a 4080S/7900XTX. And even then, 30 to 60 FPS are as good as it gets. Given you want to play on native resolution without upscaling features.

Regarding your question about the support, most games support 21:9 and 32:9 resolutions. If not, there are enough mods out there to help you running it on ultrawide and also tutorials how to mod your games to ultrawide yourself.

32:9 is very immersive but I consider 21:9 being the sweetspot. If I had a job in IT, Id probably switch back to 32:9.
Having said that, ulrawide is and was a gamechanger for me and many other folks, who actually did the step. Youll find many non-believers, but thats the case with almost everything. ^^
I guess there are still folks out there who would assure you, that 60FPS isnt any different to 144FPS or that 1080p is the same as 4K.
You know how it goes. ^^

I am one of those who state.. anything below 60fps = an unplayable mess
basicly all humans can see improvement upto 80fps.
and depending on the individual.. the best optically giften can see upto 120fps.
for me I prefer to have games over 100fps.. and I tend to not be able to see much more difference beyond that..
so 60-> 120ffps HUGE difference..
but 120->240fps (or hz screens) utter useless.. let alone higher than that.

same with pixel density.. screens always have sticked to about the same pixel density.. as 1440p 27 inch had.. (when our resolutions were still 1080p, 1200x1600, 768x1024 600x800, 640x480, 400x300 and yes even 320x240... we always had screen sizes that kept pixels per cm2 always in the same range)

to have a to large screen for your resolution like when you go 32 inch 1440.. you get pixelated mess..
but to small screen for your resoilution like 4k 32 inch.. you waste frames for nothing + in stratehgy games things get to small to quickly see.. having a lot in vieuw is useless if the time to spot it gets increased by it being to small..

so for 4k you want about a 40 to 44 inch screen..

I also really hate that upscaling nonsense and turn it always off.


but yeah widescreen not works for me.. heck if they sold them.. I buy a screen that went back to 4:3 but than with 4000x3000 pixels and large enough...
so I deem 16:9 "already a bit wider than I like"

my aim is to completely fill my vieuw.... and that means horizontally as well as vertically...

now if they did a screen that placed 2 regulair screens in portait mode together (without the bezzle)

(to create a 2560x2880 screen) THAT would be a nice screen to have..
that would solve the "it's to wide" thissue and make it again more square..

"basicly all humans can see improvement upto 80fps.
and depending on the individual.. the best optically giften can see upto 120fps.
for me I prefer to have games over 100fps.. and I tend to not be able to see much more difference beyond that.." yeah you are definitely delusional, 120 fps is awful compared to 165 or 180, please stop making nonsense posts and maybe use your main account instead so people "might" keyword: might
take you seriously at all considering your post history on both your accounts

[wbino]

Publicado originalmente por De Hollandse Ezel:

personally I think ultrawide sucks.

the human vision is already closer to the old 3:4 than the current winder 16:9
to go even wider is stupid... to keep things within your vision you need to out your screen further and furhter away,... and if it was to be bend it should bend away from you at the corners not towards you.. that only makes that out of perifial vieuw issue worse...

ok perhaps for racing or flying it is less an issue than for the stategy games I play but still..

it would be smartker to just go larger screen..
like a nice 44 inch 3840x2160. that does satisfie the desire for larger.. while still fitting nicely in your field of vision..

as for game support.. -> games generally support a very wide range of resolutions.. and nvidea game ready drivers often add more if needed.. my bet is most games will have those resolutions you consider natively..

as for performance losses... well now..
your current screen has 4953600 pixels
that larger screen has 7372800 pixels
-> thats about 1.5 times the number of pixels.. so you expect to loose 33% of your current fps..
**howver scaling is not fully linear (like the same gpu generally gives closer to halve the fps at 4k vs 1440pp despite haviing 4 times as many pixels)
with that in mind I'd expect you to get about 80% of the fps on that resolution vs what you get now..

but again why ultrawide.. it sucks?

Ultrawide is perfect fills my vision completely...like a headseat w/o the headset.
You need a 4090 and a good CPU to do it justice.

[wbino]

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

Hi there, im tempted to buy the samsung g9 49" 32:9, how hard my performance tanks with it passing from a 21:9 3440x,1440 to a 5120x1440?
And usually games that supports or half supports 21:9 are ok with 32:9?
Im not afraid of modding games to make them work with ultrawide tho, but usually i don't buy such games unless im super interested and probably all of them natively half supports ultrawide.

You need a 4090 and decent cpu to run the games with this resolution but if you have those ready get the monitor.
I run The Last Of Us fully maxed on ultra 5120 x 1440 very well with my 4090 FE and my old 9900k.

[wbino]

Publicado originalmente por Che:

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

The same thing that girl said in the video...if it's true i just play two or three hours after work and if i can a lot during week ends, but if it happens, a repair man could repair it somehow?
By repair man i mean one dude that have a lab for pc parts and stuff.
Other people in the comments in that video said it's not a problem if you play and shut off the monitor and works for years ( their monitor )

Nope, there is no such things like a quick fix or repair-solution for burn-ins. The only thing you could do if that happens, is to ignore it. That's the sad truth.

But it is also true, that many people have used OLEDS for 2-3 years without any burn-in issues.
I mean, it's possible if you take care of the aspects which I've mentioned in my previous post.
If you use it for gaming only, the chances are pretty high you'll avoid burn-ins for a long period of time.

But be aware, that it can happen any time. :)
Imagine having an emergency call and you leave your house without turning off your display.
This happened to me.

1500 bucks down the drain. Yayyyyyy

Screen savers have been around since the 286.

[Witski]

Publicado originalmente por wbino:

Publicado originalmente por Witski:

Hi there, im tempted to buy the samsung g9 49" 32:9, how hard my performance tanks with it passing from a 21:9 3440x,1440 to a 5120x1440?
And usually games that supports or half supports 21:9 are ok with 32:9?
Im not afraid of modding games to make them work with ultrawide tho, but usually i don't buy such games unless im super interested and probably all of them natively half supports ultrawide.

You need a 4090 and decent cpu to run the games with this resolution but if you have those ready get the monitor.
I run The Last Of Us fully maxed on ultra 5120 x 1440 very well with my 4090 FE and my old 9900k.

Sorry for replying too late, but with all the freaking version the g9 have...which is the latest one produced ?

I tought i replied to that but i run a 7900 xtx and a r7 5800x ( wanted to go am5 with the 7800 or whathever number it have new 3dx but there is no stock anywhere ).

because after reading info everywhere i found out that the new 3rd gen oled have anti glare and are way more resistant to burn ins but i can't tell what is what, 3000 options under amazon for those monitor, i guess the most expansive Odyssey OLED G9(G95SD) with glare free ?

Also a few people complains about random black out of said monitor and over heating...dunno, there is also the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG49WCD to take in mind.